Re: [semi-OT] Anyone have experience with flow-based programming?

Geoff- https://code.google.com/p/blockly/ -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runr

[semi-OT] Anyone have experience with flow-based programming?

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/noflo/noflo-development-environment $100K kickstarter, with stretch goals for other languages up to $1 million. I'm puzzled because as far as I can see, it's a graphical representation of functions, specifically with a visual representation of input and output

Re: [OT] Need a simple FileMaker script

Thanks all, I'll pass this on. It's not for me, I don't even own FM. Geoff had it right, I was using the word "concatenate" in the LiveCode sense since I don't know any better. The script needs to combine the first few letters of the words in a single cell. Mark, we're not trying to create un

Re: setting existing customproperties

On 8/1/13 6:57 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: I watched in the property inspector, but apparently I have to leave that view for the inspector to actually show the change. Oh that. Yeah. No dynamic updating. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperActive Software

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Heather, I'm a late comer to this discussion so I might have missed a crucial piece. However, I can conceive of situation in which I might freely share something I've written, e. g. a lecture, but include a copyright notice to forestall someone else using my work verbatim (or nearly so) and pas

Re: [OT] Need a simple FileMaker script

Hi Geoff, & Mark The key word was concatenate which is a FileMaker calculation. If he asked for a find and replace as you answered the process is a one time exercise. A typical usage of concatenation is where dissimilar entries are in a set of fields. For example; when you import data like a first

Re: [OT] Need a simple FileMaker script

You don't need a script for this unless you want to do it repeatedly, say for different sets of data or whatever. If you just want to do this right now for whatever set of records you're looking at: 1. Find the records you want to update. If all of them, then Show All Records on the Records menu.

Re: revOnline and Open Source

...or "Wrong" by David Freedman. Slightly different focus - it's about why experts are very frequently wrong. Pete lcSQL Software On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Jacques Hausser wrote: > Why is it so complicate nowadays to remain simple ? > > Jacques > >

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Read "Simplexity" by Jeoffrey Kluger Pete lcSQL Software On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:30 PM, Jacques Hausser wrote: > Why is it so complicate nowadays to remain simple ? > > Jacques > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-live

Re: loading time much faster on slower machine

Ah well. I give. If you find a solution let me know, i'm curious now. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:00 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > > Hmm actually do you have anything pegging a core at 100%? Check activity > > monitor and see. Not only would that s

Re: loading time much faster on slower machine

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:59 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Hmm actually do you have anything pegging a core at 100%? Check activity > monitor and see. Not only would that slow things down, it might cause > enough heat for a throttle. They all show low; 93% idle. For many years, xload was part of my s

Re: setting existing customproperties

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:05 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > I set properties on stacks all the time, it works exactly like setting them > on a field or any other object. You don't need to use an array unless you > want to store an actual array without combining it first. > > What happened when it fail

Re: [OT] Need a simple FileMaker script

Hi Jacque Actually it is very much the same as LiveCode Field Name1&" "&Field Name2 this will concatenate two fields. into a new calculation field where the results are shown. Thank you Vaughn Clement Apps by Vaughn Clement (Support) *http://www.appsbyvaughnclement.com/tools/home-page/* Skyp

Re: [OT] Need a simple FileMaker script

Jacque- Thursday, August 1, 2013, 1:33:32 PM, you wrote: > Does anyone know how to: > 1. Get the text in one cell > 2. Concatenate the first 5 characters (or as many as exist) of the first > 3 words > 3. Put the value into another cell I don't have the answer for you, but those are pretty weird

Re: setting existing customproperties

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:50 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: > (e.g., I have some fields with a custom "textClr" property from typos . . . Alex Tweedly's explicitProperties plugin will help protect you from misspelled custom property names. Pete lcSQL Software

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Why is it so complicate nowadays to remain simple ? Jacques ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and manage your subscription preferences: http://lists.runrev.com/mailman/listinfo/u

Re: setting existing customproperties

On 8/1/13 4:50 PM, Dr. Hawkins wrote: I've been setting custom properties of fields willy-nilly for some time now without a problem. I tried on stacks today, and failed. Reading the dictionary, it appears that I should be using an array. Is being able to set a custom property of a field a bug,

Re: setting existing customproperties

Richard. Something amiss. Setting and getting custom properties of fields is unremarkable. Craig -Original Message- From: Dr. Hawkins To: How to use LiveCode Sent: Thu, Aug 1, 2013 5:50 pm Subject: setting existing customproperties I've been setting custom properties of fields w

Re: loading time much faster on slower machine

Hmm actually do you have anything pegging a core at 100%? Check activity monitor and see. Not only would that slow things down, it might cause enough heat for a throttle. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Well I guess the next thing i'd be wondering about is if spotlight has

Re: loading time much faster on slower machine

Well I guess the next thing i'd be wondering about is if spotlight has decided to go into perpetual indexing mode. Have seen this before, don't recall how I fixed it though. Some command line thing that basically tells it to wipe out the current spotlight database and rebuild, but wouldn't do this

setting existing customproperties

I've been setting custom properties of fields willy-nilly for some time now without a problem. I tried on stacks today, and failed. Reading the dictionary, it appears that I should be using an array. Is being able to set a custom property of a field a bug, or am I missing something here? (e.g.,

Re: loading time much faster on slower machine

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Mike Bonner wrote: > Might be a strange question, but.. do you have an external (usb) drive > hooked up to the faster machine and not the slower? Nope. The only thing connected is the same model of external monitor as is on the slower machine. And this happens wi

Re: loading time much faster on slower machine

Might be a strange question, but.. do you have an external (usb) drive hooked up to the faster machine and not the slower? If so, can you eject/remove the drive and try again? Also, you said 16gb on the old mac, are you talking of first load of LC and your program or subsequent? (making sure thing

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 1:40 PM, Heather Laine wrote: > Call me naive but.. if you don't want to share your code, why on earth > would you upload it to revOnline? Its kinda like painting a picture, > hanging it on the wall, and then telling folks, hey, thats my picture, > don't look at it! Thank

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On 08/01/2013 11:40 PM, Heather Laine wrote: Call me naive but.. if you don't want to share your code, why on earth would you upload it to revOnline? Its kinda like painting a picture, hanging it on the wall, and then telling folks, hey, thats my picture, don't look at it! I've nothing against

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Heather Laine wrote: > Call me naive but.. if you don't want to share your code, why on > earth would you upload it to revOnline? There may be many reasons: - The stack may be a tutorial, and while the code techniques it describes may be shareable there may be libraries or other code driving

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On 02/08/2013, at 12:25 AM, "Dr. Hawkins" wrote: > If they don't contain *any* code, I agree. If I designed such a file > format, it would only > have descriptions of what the user did, and would be pure ascii. > > I can't tell; there are certainly non-ascii characters in there, and I > just d

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On 02/08/2013, at 6:40 AM, Heather Laine wrote: > I've nothing against people protecting their code if they want to. It's > theirs. But if they upload it, openly, to a shared site… what do they expect > people to do with it? You do realise that all of RunRev's IP is openly uploaded to a share

loading time much faster on slower machine

I have a quad-core 27" imac, about two years old, 16gb, spinning hard drive, and an i5 quad-core processor. This retina macbook has the same memory, a touch faster clock speed on an i7, and an SSD drive. It takes under two seconds for the desktop to load livecode 5.5.5 and my program, but several

Re: Persistent LC server?

On 02/08/2013, at 6:26 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > My goal is to have my program return values from an array. This would mean, > of course, that the program instance never quits. Hi Richard I had a look at the engine code for you and I don't think you will get this to work without some modi

Re: exit repeat and nested repeats

Great, thanks for the info. I was trying to eliminate some problems from one of my data processing routines and I was trying to figure out if this could be to blame. It is not. This works as I expected to with the exit only affecting the repeat that contains it. Regards, Andrew On Thu, Aug 1, 2

Re: exit repeat and nested repeats

Hi Andrew, You can use a variable if you want to exit all repeat loops: repeat for each key sKey in sData repeat for each key sKey2 in sData[sKey] put true into myExitAll exit repeat end repeat if myExitAll then

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Call me naive but.. if you don't want to share your code, why on earth would you upload it to revOnline? Its kinda like painting a picture, hanging it on the wall, and then telling folks, hey, thats my picture, don't look at it! I've nothing against people protecting their code if they want to.

Re: exit repeat and nested repeats

On Aug 1, 2013, at 2:22 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: > How does exit repeat handle nested repeats? Does it exit the parent repeat > if called from a child repeat in two repeats that are nested in a handler? > > repeat for each key sKey in sData >repeat for each key sKey2 in sData

[OT] Need a simple FileMaker script

This seems like it shouldn't be too hard, but I don't know FileMaker. Does anyone know how to: 1. Get the text in one cell 2. Concatenate the first 5 characters (or as many as exist) of the first 3 words 3. Put the value into another cell Do that for every record. So, if the text in cell A5

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On 02/08/2013, at 2:58 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > The whole point of revOnline is to freely and openly share code with no > strings attached. If that's not what you want to do, then you should find > a location that is more appropriate to your objectives. Hmm... Mark Wieder said he puts demos

Re: exit repeat and nested repeats

Andrew Kluthe wrote: How does exit repeat handle nested repeats? Does it exit the parent repeat if called from a child repeat in two repeats that are nested in a handler? repeat for each key sKey in sData repeat for each key sKey2 in sData[sKey] exit repeat

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On 01/08/2013, at 11:45 PM, Mark Wilcox wrote: > 1) CC0 - the creative commons public domain equivalent with fallbacks (you > can't give up your rights to your work in the same ways everywhere in the > world) is better for software than a simple public domain declaration. Yes, unlike other CC

Re: Persistent LC server?

Peter W A Wood wrote: > Richard > > On 1 Aug 2013, at 11:34, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> The trick here is that LC Server is designed to run as a CGI; > that is, the process is born, lives, and dies in the time it > takes to satisfy a request. > > It is your choice whether to run LC Server as a CGI

exit repeat and nested repeats

How does exit repeat handle nested repeats? Does it exit the parent repeat if called from a child repeat in two repeats that are nested in a handler? repeat for each key sKey in sData repeat for each key sKey2 in sData[sKey] exit repeat end repeat

Re: Submitting to Apple... at what size ?

Hi John iTunes (Apple) app store submissions are a mine field for developers. When I started submissions in 2008 the review process was like standing in front of a firing squad. After several battles with the Review team I found that they are just doing what their told. So, I found that you can a

Re: Submitting to Apple... at what size ?

The only automated check that Apple are likely to do is ensure that you include the retina "splash screen" images in the bundle.  Beyond that, it's down to a reviewer deciding that your graphics look low-res/poor quality on a retina display - I haven't heard of any rejections for that reason. __

Re: Submitting to Apple... at what size ?

My app was built at 1024 x 768 and I recently uploaded a revision at the same resolution. No problem…. Roger On Aug 1, 2013, at 10:32 AM, John Dixon wrote: > To those of you who have submitted iPad apps to Apple recently built with > liveCode... > > What size did you build them at 1024 x 76

Re: Programming LiveCode for the Real Beginner is available again!

Its a great book. I've one or two comments about topics and treatment which are probably best sent direct. The thing it might be interesting to know how others feel about is physical. Is it possible to go to a stitched and not just a glued binding. I keep wanting to pin it open or spread it out

RE: Submitting to Apple... at what size ?

No Chris... now you confuse me.., If as you suggest use 'iphoneUseDeviceResolution true, true' then run under retina, a stack buillt at 1024 will just take up the top-left corner of the screen... I asked this same question on the forum... 'Jacob' replied saying that he has just had an app accep

Re: Submitting to Apple... at what size ?

For iPad, I've always built at 1024 x 768, simply because my iMac's screen doesn't easily accommodate the larger size. So that means that everything has to scale up when the app runs on the retina display. Usually this isn't a big deal, especially if you're using something like tmControl, MobGUI

Re: Open file with double click

Hi Mike, I guess "me as a developer". I want to deliver a standalone that will start up on double click of an appropriate file without the end user needing to make the file association. Pete lcSQL Software On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:05 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > You as a de

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On 08/01/2013 09:25 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: it's not the site, it was just the title of the thread and the strong reaction it seems to evoke. I don't use revOnline, so I can't comment on it. Well, I started the thread, and the reaction was both amazing, and, I believe, healthy; surely the mor

Re: Open file with double click

Thanks for all the info Mark, I'll check it all out. Pete lcSQL Software On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Mark Schonewille < m.schonewi...@economy-x-talk.com> wrote: > Hi Pete, > > Just a quick answer. You can set file associations for OSX in the OSX tab > of the standalo

Re: revOnline and Open Source

it's not the site, it was just the title of the thread and the strong reaction it seems to evoke. I don't use revOnline, so I can't comment on it. On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:22 PM, Richmond wrote: > On 08/01/2013 07:34 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: > >> This is just awful and freudian at the same time.

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On 08/01/2013 07:34 PM, Mike Kerner wrote: This is just awful and freudian at the same time. I did a double-take when I read the subject this time, because for a second I thought it was "revOnline and Open Sores" LOL! The whole thing does look a bit like an Open Sore. Richmond. __

Re: revOnline and Open Source

I totally agree with you :: things should be simple. Simple for us, simple for th experimented commercial developer helping us out, simple for Kevin, simple for the 12 yrs old newcomer, simple and clear for everybody := revOnline =equals= freely shared no strings attached. Full point. I believe

Submitting to Apple... at what size ?

To those of you who have submitted iPad apps to Apple recently built with liveCode... What size did you build them at 1024 x 768... or 2048 x 1536 ? Has ayone suffered a rejection from submitting their iPad app to Apple at 1024 x 768 ? I would also like to hear what sizes people have been build

Re: "unsetting" behavior

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 3:20 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Saturday, July 27, 2013, 3:14:53 PM, you wrote: > >> I'd have sworn I tried this and experimented with it . . . and here I >> am setting them every time cards load . . . > I do remember a bug with a previous version where the behavior wasn't >

Re: revOnline and Open Source

I'm in favor of a statement making it clear what the conditions for uploading stacks to revOnline are. I'm not in favor of allowing those terms to be overriden by people setting their own licensing terms on a stack by stack basis. The whole point of revOnline is to freely and openly share code wi

Re: revOnline and Open Source

This is just awful and freudian at the same time. I did a double-take when I read the subject this time, because for a second I thought it was "revOnline and Open Sores" On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Mark Wilcox wrote: > Richmond wrote: > > > If copyright is not explicitly stated then, sure

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Richmond wrote: > If copyright is not explicitly stated then, surely, the thing is up for grabs > . . . That is very definitely not the case, although ideas can't be copyrighted only a particular expression of an idea.  So if you made a calculator app that looked and/or worked exactly like min

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Dr. Hawkins wrote: > If they don't contain *any* code, I agree.  If I designed such a file > format, it would only > have descriptions of what the user did, and would be pure ascii. > I can't tell; there are certainly non-ascii characters in there, and I > just don't know what > they are.  I *a

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On 08/01/2013 03:56 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: I think most of the people sharing on revOnline are happy for their ideas to be used, otherwise they wouldn't have uploaded the stacks. However I do agree that some legal clarification is a good idea. How about we state that everything on revOnline is a

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On 08/01/2013 12:52 PM, Robert Mann wrote: So to sum it up : 1. Situation is a big mess :: all stacks published at revOnline are ab initio protected by copyright, which is in apparent conflict with the purpose of revOnline, which is to share code ideas and code. 2. Authors SHOULD specify the ter

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 6:35 AM, Mark Wilcox wrote: > > 3) Stackfiles are (almost certainly) not derivative works. The content of > stacks is > generated by LiveCode but they do not contain bits of the engine code. If they don't contain *any* code, I agree. If I designed such a file format, it

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Kevin Miller wrote: > I think most of the people sharing on revOnline are happy for their ideas > to be used, otherwise they wouldn't have uploaded the stacks. However I do > agree that some legal clarification is a good idea. How about we state > that everything on

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 2:52 AM, Robert Mann wrote: > So to sum it up : That pretty much sums it up. > 5. The protection of libraries remains to be clarified. I don't see a real difference in this context. > Question :: what if I open a revOline stack, find some handlers and > mechanism I like

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 3:25 AM, Mark Schonewille wrote: > I would think that it is clear to users that sharing code (rather than > stacks) in the code section of RevOnline, implies that people can use it to > learn from. Copying and using it would violate copyright, I think the downloader using

Re: revOnline and Open Source

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 8:27 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Dr. Hawkins wrote: >> As the author of the seminal Economic paper on the subject, I chose >> "viral" and "public" quite deliberately. > That's certainly your right, or anyone's right, regardless of any academic > credentials. It's also th

Re: Persistent LC server?

Richard On 1 Aug 2013, at 11:34, Richard Gaskin wrote: > The trick here is that LC Server is designed to run as a CGI; that is, the > process is born, lives, and dies in the time it takes to satisfy a request. It is your choice whether to run LC Server as a CGI or not: Schulz:LiveCodeS

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Kevin Miller wrote: > I think most of the people sharing on revOnline are happy for their ideas > to be used, otherwise they wouldn't have uploaded the stacks. However I do > agree that some legal clarification is a good idea. How about we state > that everything on revOnline is automatically publi

Re: revOnline and Open Source

This thread is too long and full of misunderstandings (even from the expert lawyer on the technical side) to reply to every post separately.  Here's my take (IANAL but I did work for a open source software foundation and write the licensing FAQs etc): 1) Anything published without an explicit c

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Kevin Miller wrote: I think most of the people sharing on revOnline are happy for their ideas to be used, otherwise they wouldn't have uploaded the stacks. However I do agree that some legal clarification is a good idea. How about we state that everything on revOnline is automatically public doma

Re: revOnline and Open Source

I think most of the people sharing on revOnline are happy for their ideas to be used, otherwise they wouldn't have uploaded the stacks. However I do agree that some legal clarification is a good idea. How about we state that everything on revOnline is automatically public domain, *unless* the autho

Re: revOnline and Open Source

Hi Robert, I would think that it is clear to users that sharing code (rather than stacks) in the code section of RevOnline, implies that people can use it to learn from. Copying and using it would violate copyright, but studying the code and reverse-engineering it would be a form of "fair use

Re: revOnline and Open Source

So to sum it up : 1. Situation is a big mess :: all stacks published at revOnline are ab initio protected by copyright, which is in apparent conflict with the purpose of revOnline, which is to share code ideas and code. 2. Authors SHOULD specify the terms and license they agree upon 3. Clearly, ta