Re: NumberFormat

Thanks Colin and Mark! On Sep 11, 2012, at 8:08 AM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Peter- > > Tuesday, September 11, 2012, 5:12:30 AM, Colin wrote: > >> Mark's answer was a different way to solve the problem. > > Yes, because > I couldn't remember the numberFormat syntax > I was too lazy to look it up

Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: > Monday, September 10, 2012, 10:43:32 AM, you wrote: > >> You have to keep up: > >> http://betanews.com/2012/08/31/adobe-flash-for-android-lives-again-in-united-kingdom/ > > "lives again" in the title is a stretching things a bit. Well, it *was

Re: Morality, Honesty and Legality

On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 5:39 PM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Like EULA terms, corporate philanthropy may also be a feature some folks > look for when selecting their vendors. And as a moral and ethical issue, it's one I hold very strongly against a corporation when investing. Return the money to the

Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)

Warren- Tuesday, September 11, 2012, 6:31:19 PM, you wrote: > That isn't a failing of RSS, that's a software issue. Yeah, I understand that. > Can it be changed in settings? Yes... er... no... you can change the settings, but it doesn't make a difference. > I have only a tiny number of feeds

Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)

On 9/11/12 8:16 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: The rss plugins I use let me see some 10 recent entries. Anything older than that has scrolled off the bottom and is gone. Cool. We can talk about you and you'll likely miss it. :) Warren, I didn't mean to sound snippy, you just inadvertently got snared

Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)

On 09/11/2012 08:16 PM, Mark Wieder wrote: Well, it's more complicated than that. The rss plugins I use let me see some 10 recent entries. Anything older than that has scrolled off the bottom and is gone. That isn't a failing of RSS, that's a software issue. Can it be changed in settings? I h

Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)

Warren- Tuesday, September 11, 2012, 4:17:40 PM, you wrote: > RSS offers some conveniences over simply browsing the forum, but > it's a fairly minor thing Well, it's more complicated than that. The rss plugins I use let me see some 10 recent entries. Anything older than that has scrolled off the

Re: fontStyle function working?

Thanks for testing Mark & Pete. I was hoping that I was missing something and that it did actually work - doesn't seem to be the case for Mac and Windows. Marty Knapp www.KnappsterSolutions.com www.CheckBuilderPro.com Marty Knapp writes: Thanks Mark. Maybe this is a

Re: Morality, Honesty and Legality

Roger Eller wrote: I'm sure they give large sums of money to some very good causes, but why not go all out and make a difference by really changing the world instead of paying all those lawyers to take down Samsung? Ok, this one is definitely over the top, and also naive, but wouldn't it be a wo

Re: fontStyle function working?

Marty Knapp writes: > > Thanks Mark. Maybe this is a Mac only problem. I'm running Mt. Lion and > LC 5.5.2. No matter what font I try (even a non-existent font) I get the > same result: plain, bold, italic & bold-italic. Yep. I get that on XP and Snow Leopard as well. My guess is that's all y

Re: Morality, Honesty and Legality

EULAs aside, I wonder what stand Apple takes on higher-level ethics and morality, looking at themselves as an entity capable of making a significant difference in this world. In this article, there could be a genuine opportunity for Apple to apply some of massive resources toward curing at least o

Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)

On 09/11/2012 05:43 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Using an RSS reader on a desktop machine isn't any easier than just going to the forums in a browser, it's just another layer. You complained about waiting while using your browser and background tabs would certainly help you there in many cases.

Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)

On 9/11/12 5:36 PM, Warren Samples wrote: Background tabs. Not possible on a mobile browser that I know of. I forgot to mention that if you are not logged in, the login screen dumps you back into the index, so you have to go hunt up the post you wanted to answer. Using an RSS reader on a d

Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)

On 09/11/2012 04:35 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: Yes, it will open a browser if I ask it to. That's an extra step which I need to wait for. Then I have to wait for the forum servers. Then I have to log in and deal with that horrible little text box with all the silly html buttons and gadgets. I cho

Re: Load vs Go

On 9/11/12 4:32 PM, Scott Rossi wrote: I didn't know libURLSetStatusCallback works with "go" -- that's a new one for me. The other thing is "load" places the downloaded item into a local cache; not sure if "go" does this (at least, maybe not one that's accessible -- though might be wrong about t

Re: fontStyle function working?

I tried the same command as Mark on SNow Leopard and on Windows 7 Home Premium and got "plain, bold, italic,bold-italic" Pete lcSQL Software On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Marty Knapp wrote: > "DejaVu Sans", 12) ___ use-liveco

Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)

On 9/11/12 4:03 PM, Warren Samples wrote: On 09/11/2012 12:45 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I already do use the RSS feed. But if you want to participate, it's pretty useless. You have to open a web browser, find the post, log in, and reply. Really? Your news reader doesn't display the forum and

Re: Load vs Go

I didn't know libURLSetStatusCallback works with "go" -- that's a new one for me. The other thing is "load" places the downloaded item into a local cache; not sure if "go" does this (at least, maybe not one that's accessible -- though might be wrong about this). Regards, Scott Rossi Creative Dir

Re: fontStyle function working?

Thanks Mark. Maybe this is a Mac only problem. I'm running Mt. Lion and LC 5.5.2. No matter what font I try (even a non-existent font) I get the same result: plain, bold, italic & bold-italic. Marty Knapp --- Fedora Core 16 xfce spin put the fontstyles("DejaVu Sans",

Load vs Go

I need to download and open some very large stacks from the web, and having two copies in RAM could be a problem. I'm not sure whether to use "load" or "go stack url". It seems to me that "load" will make a copy in RAM, then when I go to the stack there will be two copies momentarily until I un

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

On 9/11/2012 5:04 PM, Richmond wrote: > The fundamental question that nobody has answered properly is whether > a EULA is legally > binding. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EULA. While primarily US focused, it lists a number of court cases. The short answer is a EULA is as enforceable as the com

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

I think that's the crux of this whole discussion. If someone accepts an agreement of any sort that contains conditions that are illegal, then it's highly questionable if they are bound by that agreement, or at least by the illegal parts. I actually won a small claims court case on that principal

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

On 09/11/2012 11:40 PM, François Chaplais wrote: Le 11 sept. 2012 à 21:47, Peter Alcibiades a écrit : I also believe that its impossible to enforce post sale restrictions on use in the EU. You cannot sell someone a chisel, and then when he opens it, have him discover the enforceable condition

Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)

On 09/11/2012 12:45 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: I already do use the RSS feed. But if you want to participate, it's pretty useless. You have to open a web browser, find the post, log in, and reply. Really? Your news reader doesn't display the forum and allow you to post, or it won't properly op

Re: VBScript Wizardry

What I ended up doing here was using this vbscript to handle it from the shell. http://www.suodenjoki.dk/us/productions/articles/word2pdf.htm In case it can help anyone else. On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Andrew Kluthe wrote: > Hello, > > Trying to use VBScript to turn an open word document

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

On 09/11/2012 10:45 PM, Peter Alcibiades wrote: Snow Leopard still seems to be for sale from Amazon UK, and Amazon France. What I am saying is that if its sold at retail as a separate item, and there is no compulsion on anyone to do that of course, I believe that no EU court will rule that to be

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

Le 11 sept. 2012 à 21:47, Peter Alcibiades a écrit : > I also believe that its impossible to enforce post sale restrictions on use > in the EU. You cannot sell someone a chisel, and then when he opens it, > have him discover the enforceable condition that if he uses it with a > mallet, it must b

Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)

I'd love a way to easily browse and post to the forum on a moble. Is there a mobile theme for the forum we could apply? I think there's some apps but they need a plugin added to the forum. -- M E R Goulding Software development services mergExt - There's an external for that! On 12/09/2012, at

Re: misleading corrupted file warning

On 9/11/12 1:52 PM, Haroldo Mauro wrote: What I mean is: do I need to spend money on a new license ($499 for LiveCode) so not to live with the bug? Sorry, I misunderstood. I think the best thing to do is write to support. They are pretty good about supporting users with older versions. See w

Re: fontStyle function working?

Marty Knapp writes: > > Yes, exactly. I want to implement a Styles menu which will list only the > styles available for the selected font. FontStyles is supposed to give a > return-delimited list of styles for a given font and font size (see the > dictionary). But when I try it, it always giv

VBScript Wizardry

Hello, Trying to use VBScript to turn an open word document into a pdf file. >From looking at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8807153/vbscript-to-convert-word-doc-to-pdf and http://www.robvanderwoude.com/vbstech_automation_word.php#SaveAsPDF it seems what with word 2010 or word 2007 with a

Re: Morality, Honesty and Legality

Peter Alcibiades wrote: Richard, where I would differ is in the view that there are two choices: use and agree, or use something else. It may be that there are sound ethical reasons for simply not accepting the wishes of the creator or owner. I suppose there are a great many ways to view thi

Re: Morality, Honesty and Legality

Someone made the point, and I think I agree, that this is not an ethical issue. It may make bad business sense, or may have legal implications, but it goes a bit too far to call it an ethical violation. But maybe we mean different things when we use "ethical". On Sep 11, 2012, at 12:56 PM, Pe

Re: Morality, Honesty and Legality

Richard, where I would differ is in the view that there are two choices: use and agree, or use something else. It may be that there are sound ethical reasons for simply not accepting the wishes of the creator or owner. I think this is true of the requirement to only run OSX on Mac hardware, an

RE: [OT] EULA and legality

I also believe that its impossible to enforce post sale restrictions on use in the EU. You cannot sell someone a chisel, and then when he opens it, have him discover the enforceable condition that if he uses it with a mallet, it must be with one you make. Again, easy to prove me wrong, just cite

RE: [OT] EULA and legality

Snow Leopard still seems to be for sale from Amazon UK, and Amazon France. What I am saying is that if its sold at retail as a separate item, and there is no compulsion on anyone to do that of course, I believe that no EU court will rule that to be anything but a sale. It would be easy to prove m

Re: misleading corrupted file warning

On 11/09/2012, at 14:46, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 9/11/12 11:59 AM, Haroldo Mauro wrote: > >> Yes, but I don't see any update to Revolution online. Do you mean I >> need to upgrade to LiveCode? > > Yes, the "Revolution" name was changed to LiveCode, but it is the same > product. > > -- > J

Re: Zero/empty

I think you nailed it Mike. I simplified my post a bit. I'm actually testing a parameter to a function not a variable and the call to the function does not pass the parameter. In other words: put myFunction(p1) into whatever function myFunction p1,p2 if p2 is not zero….. end myFunction This

Re: Zero/empty

on mouseUp pMouseBtnNo put empty into tVar put tvar is not zero end mouseUp results in true. Not sure what is going on there. Bob On Sep 11, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Peter Haworth wrote: > Just ran across a little oddity. The statement "if tVar is not zero" > evaluates to false if tVar is e

Re: Zero/empty

There are some quirks I found on testing this. This evaluates to false local tvar --put empty into tvar put (tvar is not zero) This evaluates to true local tvar put empty into tvar put (tvar is not zero) So it seems a declared var that has had nothing done to it sees itself as empty and

Zero/empty

Just ran across a little oddity. The statement "if tVar is not zero" evaluates to false if tVar is empty. Apparently empty and zero are treated the same for comparison purposes? Pete lcSQL Software ___ use-livecode mailing list us

Re: misleading corrupted file warning

On 9/11/12 11:59 AM, Haroldo Mauro wrote: Yes, but I don't see any update to Revolution online. Do you mean I need to upgrade to LiveCode? Yes, the "Revolution" name was changed to LiveCode, but it is the same product. -- Jacqueline Landman Gay | jac...@hyperactivesw.com HyperAc

Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)

On 9/11/12 11:43 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: The RSS feed the forums puts out is pretty complete, and allows you to view it in the reader of your choice - and of course it's simple to also make your own in LiveCode. I already do use the RSS feed. But if you want to participate, it's pretty usel

Re: misleading corrupted file warning

On 11/09/2012, at 13:25, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 9/11/12 6:11 AM, Haroldo Mauro wrote: > Thank you Jacqueline. Was that bug fixed in an update I don't have? >>> >>> I can't remember when it got fixed, but it was in the very next >>> version. All recent versions should be okay. Sorr

Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)

J. Landman Gay wrote: On 9/11/12 10:50 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: But given the reasonably useful search feature built into the forums, would an alternate search tool provide much more utility than is already there? Searching is only half the problem. The other half is reading what you've foun

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

I can see in this specific case that it would be problematic for Apple to make their OS backwards compatible with everything ever produced by them. There has to be some kind of cutoff. I don't fault them for that. Where they draw the line is really not an issue of legality, but of expedience.

Re: Morality, Honesty and Legality

Bob Sneidar wrote: > On Sep 11, 2012, at 7:09 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > >> I can't speak to anything related to the "legality" of any EULA, >> but I do believe in one ethical priority: the intent of the creator >> of a work. >> >> The act of creating anything is a special human endeavor, and a

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

Hmmm... I think they are saying that if you do those things it will void the warranty. That is not the same thing as saying that you have violated some legal obligation to USE the tool, and must forfeit your right to use it in the future! We really need to keep that distinction clear, or else it

Re: Morality, Honesty and Legality

On Sep 11, 2012, at 7:09 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > I can't speak to anything related to the "legality" of any EULA, but I do > believe in one ethical priority: the intent of the creator of a work. > > The act of creating anything is a special human endeavor, and as such in my > book it's sa

Re: misleading corrupted file warning

On 9/11/12 6:11 AM, Haroldo Mauro wrote: Thank you Jacqueline. Was that bug fixed in an update I don't have? I can't remember when it got fixed, but it was in the very next version. All recent versions should be okay. Sorry I can't be more specific. Is 3.5 the newest version you have? Yes. 3

Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)

On 9/11/12 10:50 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: But given the reasonably useful search feature built into the forums, would an alternate search tool provide much more utility than is already there? Searching is only half the problem. The other half is reading what you've found. :) To solve that I

RE: [OT] EULA and legality

> Lynn, the problem is that (I believe) in the EU the EULA so > called license is actually going to be held, should it ever > come to court, as a sale. And that all the post sale > restrictions on use will be thrown out. Hard for me to add much to Richard's "Bring it On" ;-) But to expand on

Re: fontStyle function working?

Hi Marty, I did a quick test on this and, while I didn't look at every font, the ones I did look at all returned the same result as you got. Thnis was on Snow Leopard and LC 5.5.1 Pete lcSQL Software On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Marty Knapp wrote: > Anybody used the

Re: fontStyle function working?

As I recall, in the olden days, no matter what specific styles were included, plain, italic, bold and bold-italic were always styles you could choose, even if the OS had to fudge them. That may still be the case, in which case you would always get those styles. Bob On Sep 10, 2012, at 7:36 P

Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)

On Sep 11, 2012, at 11:50 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Searching is only half the problem. The other half is reading what you've > found. :) Yes. A typical Google search gives something like this at the top of the page: "2,490,000 results (0.30 seconds)." The reason Google works as well as it d

Re: LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)

I've been using an RSS feed to get forum posts. Pete lcSQL Software On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Alejandro Tejada wrote: > > Actually, the forum archives would be useful to search them locally >> and offline. Just like the use-livecode mail li

LC Forum reading (was Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash)

Alejandro Tejada wrote: Actually, the forum archives would be useful to search them locally and offline. Just like the use-livecode mail list. I remember that Sarah posted this tutorial in RevJournal: http://livecodejournal.com/tutorials/macaddict-forum-reader.html but I dont know how to change

Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash

Richard Gaskin wrote > >> Alejandro Tejada wrote: >> Does exists a stack to download and read offline every >> post in the Forum? This would be really useful. > > I have something in the works for that, but there's really too much > stuff there to ever want to read all of it anyway. > > What I

Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash

For keepers, before Adobe "killed mobile Flash", Adobe a) killed PageMaker and attempted to kill Freehand by buying Aldus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aldus They developed their own inDesign software and buried PageMaker six feet in the ground. Freehand was the main competitor to Illustrator. It

Re: NumberFormat

Peter- Tuesday, September 11, 2012, 5:12:30 AM, Colin wrote: > Mark's answer was a different way to solve the problem. Yes, because I couldn't remember the numberFormat syntax I was too lazy to look it up I use format() often enough that it's "natural" language What Colin said is correct, and

RE: [OT] EULA and legality

> Oh right, the people that currently disregard the EULA are > going to pop over to the Apple Store and when presented with > two buttons, one marked > $19.99 and the other $219.99* they are going to fork over the > extra $200 because these are the kind of people happy to pay > a premium for th

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

Peter Alcibiades wrote: Go into a store and buy OSX or Windows, you bought it. That, I believe, is what any EU court will rule if it ever comes to that, and that, I believe, is why it never will come to that. An unnameable source once told me that an Apple VP leaned over the table after a lon

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

Le 11 sept. 2012 à 15:56, Peter Alcibiades a écrit : > Lynn, the problem is that (I believe) in the EU the EULA so called license is > actually going to be held, should it ever come to court, as a sale. And > that all the post sale restrictions on use will be thrown out. > > I know of no case,

Re: Morality, Honesty and Legality

I can't speak to anything related to the "legality" of any EULA, but I do believe in one ethical priority: the intent of the creator of a work. The act of creating anything is a special human endeavor, and as such in my book it's sacred. Once a work is created, the creator must, IMNSHO, reta

Re: storing data on iOS devices

Thanks. I'll give that a try. Chris On Sep 10, 2012, at 9:19 AM, John Dixon wrote: > > > Chris... > > Have a read of 'file Attributes' on page 23 of the iOS release notes... If I > understand this correctly, you can happily save your 'stuff' in the > 'documents' folder and using the 'ipho

RE: [OT] EULA and legality

Lynn, the problem is that (I believe) in the EU the EULA so called license is actually going to be held, should it ever come to court, as a sale. And that all the post sale restrictions on use will be thrown out. I know of no case, and think that is revealing. It would be really great to see a t

Re: Screen not updating with unlock screen

On Sep 11, 2012, at 9:04 AM, Peter M. Brigham wrote: > The other consideration is that the loop is likely going so fast that even > with the "wait 0" line the screen update may be too slow to keep up and the > only thing you'll get will be the final number. Belay that. I just tested it, and "wa

Re: Screen not updating with unlock screen

The other consideration is that the loop is likely going so fast that even with the "wait 0" line the screen update may be too slow to keep up and the only thing you'll get will be the final number. -- Peter Peter M. Brigham pmb...@gmail.com http://home.comcast.net/~pmbrig On Sep 11, 2012, at

Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash

Alejandro Tejada wrote: Richard Gaskin wrote Alejandro Tejada wrote: If they keep acting in that way, I foresee a future without Adobe software in ANY platform. That future has been my present for the last several years. I had enjoyed GoLive and LiveMotion, and they way they OEL'd those has

Re: Screen not updating with unlock screen

Gabriel Johnson wrote: I am having an issue getting output to display during a loop. I've tried lock/unlock screen but unlock screen does not seem to cause the screen to update. The only thing that works is "wait 0 seconds" but this causes bizarre behavior in some cases (mouseDown/mouseUp not beh

Was : Re: Reviews on the iTunes store...

On Sunday night, I was watching (some of) the closing ceremony show for the London Paralympics on Channel 4. After the end of the ceremony itself, they did a quick review, and showed some highlights. It included a series of brief clips; one of them showed an athlete (or maybe a volunteer - not

Re: Screen not updating with unlock screen

The short answer is that the right way to 'fix' this is to use wait 0 secs with messages (or wait 0 millisecs with messages - same thing :-) Now you said that doing that produced some strange behaviour - can you describe it in more detail, and we'll see if we can figure that out (and / or fi

Re: NumberFormat

Mark's answer was a different way to solve the problem. Getting back to your question, you were doing things exactly right, only you were looking at the contents of the number variable, the formatting only happens when it's used as a string. Try this in the multiline message box: set the number

Re: Morality, Honesty and Legality

Hello again, When you go to cinema you buy a ticket, you see the movie, but when you go out you cannot sell or give your ticket to another person (you can do that but this person cannot see the movie with it)... René Le 11 sept. 2012 à 14:05, René Micout a écrit : > > Le 11 sept. 2012 à 11:50

Re: Morality, Honesty and Legality

Le 11 sept. 2012 à 11:50, Richmond a écrit : > I own a copy of RunRev Dreamwriter for Mac (2.6.1) which I no longer use . . . > > Am I permitted to hand it on (either GIVE or SELL) it to somebody else? > > Just as, say, I can hand on the cup of coffee. Hello Richmond, You purchased a "copy" o

Re: [OT] EULA and legality

In this age of digital perfection, legislation as well as digital coding are applied to personal, private use copies of over-the-air music or media. Certain devices which are authorized for making personal, non-commercial copies have already included royalties in the device cost, which goes direct

Re: misleading corrupted file warning

On 10/09/2012, at 22:59, J. Landman Gay wrote: > On 9/10/12 7:15 PM, Haroldo Mauro wrote: >> >> On 10/09/2012, at 20:51, J. Landman Gay wrote: >> >>> On 9/10/12 6:12 PM, Haroldo Mauro wrote: My Revolution Studio 3.5 will not open its own stacks except for the first one. If I want to o

Morality, Honesty and Legality

Do not always coincide. Consider the following: 1. I bought a Snow Leopard install disk (i.e. I don't use stolen software). 2. I have installed Snow Leopard in VMplayer on a non-Apple machine, and told the Use-List about this; this is a form of honesty (e.g. not pretending I am running

Re: OT: Adobe kills mobile Flash

Hi Richard, Richard Gaskin wrote > > Alejandro Tejada wrote: >> If they keep acting in that way, I foresee a future without >> Adobe software in ANY platform. > > That future has been my present for the last several years. I had > enjoyed GoLive and LiveMotion, and they way they OEL'd those ha