Alejandro Tejada wrote:

Richard Gaskin wrote

Alejandro Tejada wrote:
If they keep acting in that way, I foresee a future without
Adobe software in ANY platform.

That future has been my present for the last several years. I had
enjoyed GoLive and LiveMotion, and they way they OEL'd those has
prompted me to spend my money elsewhere.

That transition should have been difficult, at least in the
beginning.

Only a little, and far less effort than dealing with the runaround from Adobe (don't get me started; suffice to say I've never seen a product OEL'd as carelessly for customers as GoLive and LiveMotion were).

There are some conveniences in Fireworks that I haven't yet built my own replacements for, but for the features I use in the rest of Adobe CS I've found suitable replacements:

Dreamweaver, and really any WYSIWYG web tool, is of ever-decreasing value as Web designs take on more application-like appearances, with regions dynamically created and adjusted on the fly in code. Most of my work for the Web is now done in a plain text editor, where I have the freedom to work as I need without wondering how the tags will be generated. These days I use mostly JEDit, because once you take the time to set up its extensive preferences the way you want you can get a nice environment on both Mac and Ubuntu, for the unbeatable price of zero. I'll probably get back to finishing my own text editor some day, but JEDit does a competent job that's nicely consistent across platforms.

For the rare moment when I do want to use a WYSYWIG Web tool for a quick throw-together page, Kompozer is quite adequate.

GIMP does everything I've ever used in Photoshop, and with its two scripting languages perhaps a bit more so.

Flash is dead. Not completely dead, by dying so fast that by the time I finish typing this sentence another hundred Web sites will have replaced their Flash media with an open alternative. It was a beautiful thing in its day (thanks to Charlie Jackson and the others on the original team), but that day was long ago. And like so many other acquired software, once it got to Adobe it just became a mess. RIP.

I've never done enough serious print publishing to need a tool like InDesign, but for my modest needs I can get everything I need done in either Libre Office or Scribus.

Most of my vector art is done in LiveCode, but when I need something more I use Inkscape.

All of these tools are cross-platform, a must in my work environment. They're all just one click away in the Ubuntu Software Center, and extra bonus points that every one of them is both free as in beer and free as in freedom, so my software costs have dropped and I have confidence in their long-term viability because the community can maintain them if the core team ever decides to drop them.



I still prefer this list for the old-timer comaraderie and experience,
but the forums are quite the place for meeting the new generation of
LiveCoders.


Ah... The forums.
I rarely find enough time to read and post in the forums.
Does exists a stack to download and read offline every
post in the Forum? This would be really useful.

I have something in the works for that, but there's really too much stuff there to ever want to read all of it anyway.

What I do is click the "New Posts" link in the morning, and just read the latest. This way I get the current conversations without having to wade through the past.

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 Richard Gaskin
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