Re: [OT] is the Lion really just a donkey sewn inside an old lion skin?

On 14/06/2011 03:37 PM, "Mark Wieder" wrote: > Richmond- > > Monday, June 13, 2011, 12:45:40 PM, you wrote: > >> On 06/13/2011 09:24 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: >>> A reference to C.S. Lewis! I like it! > >> Very, very well spotted . . . :) > > I don't believe Lions are spotted. You must be think

Re: [OT] is the Lion really just a donkey sewn inside an old lion skin?

Richmond- Monday, June 13, 2011, 12:45:40 PM, you wrote: > On 06/13/2011 09:24 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: >> A reference to C.S. Lewis! I like it! > Very, very well spotted . . . :) I don't believe Lions are spotted. You must be thinking of Leopards. -- -Mark Wieder mwie...@ahsoftware.net ___

Re: [OT] is the Lion really just a donkey sewn inside an old lion skin?

On Tue, 14 Jun 2011, Richmond Mathewson wrote: Where did Lewis get the name 'Aslan' ? It's the name of a fingerspelling font. Oh, wait... that's Amslan. Judy I'll be here, goofed out, for the rest of the week. ___ use-livecode mailing list use-liv

Re: [OT] is the Lion really just a donkey sewn inside an old lion skin?

On 06/14/2011 12:38 AM, Tim Selander wrote: Clive Staples, of course. Any more trivia challenges, or is that your last battle? Where did Lewis get the name 'Aslan' ? From one fan to another. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan ___ use-livecode mailing l

Re: [OT] is the Lion really just a donkey sewn inside an old lion skin?

On 06/13/2011 11:35 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Ok, so here's a bit of trivia. Promise you won't look it up on the internet or go get one of his books! What does the C.S. stand for? Clive Staples Bob On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 06/13/2011 09:24 PM, Bob Sneidar wrot

Re: [OT] 13 essential programming tools for the mobile Web | Mobile Technology - InfoWorld

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Roger Eller wrote: > On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Paul Foraker wrote: > >> >> http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobile-technology/13-essential-programming-tools-the-mobile-web-246 >> >> *When it comes to programming for mobile devices, choice quickly becomes >> dilemm

Re: [OT] 13 essential programming tools for the mobile Web | Mobile Technology - InfoWorld

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 6:28 PM, Paul Foraker wrote: > > http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobile-technology/13-essential-programming-tools-the-mobile-web-246 > > *When it comes to programming for mobile devices, choice quickly becomes > dilemma. Do you target the lucrative iPhone market at the expense o

Re: [OT] dialect divergence?

I might have agreed with you years ago before I cracked my first book on C+, and later on Java. Anyone who thinks Livecode is anything like difficult after that should probably not be developing software. ;-) Bob On Jun 13, 2011, at 3:14 PM, Joe Lewis Wilkins wrote: > Thanks for the effort Bo

Re: [OT] 13 essential programming tools for the mobile Web | Mobile Technology - InfoWorld

altho it is much easier to create one code for several platforms in LC, then for example in C, it's still a huge annoyance to deal with platform specifics. just think about saving stuff on desktops. you need to use a two- (or three-)way platform switch just for the default location to save to. w

Re: Chat transcripts for Live LiveCode.tv events?

yeah, sorry we do not keep chats. it's not really much you'll missing anyway. most people listen in silence and awe ;) someone suggested to make an alternative view for the client, that could be shown at the bottom of the stream somehow. but time constrains and such... no idea. we do ask presen

Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

On Monday, June 13, 2011 12:54:04 PM Richard Gaskin wrote: > Warren Samples wrote: > > It seems to be working here although certain letters seem not to be > > usable. For example -s does not work. I can get an answer dialog to > > return "-h" when used as a cl flag and the app will do something if

[OT] 13 essential programming tools for the mobile Web | Mobile Technology - InfoWorld

http://www.infoworld.com/d/mobile-technology/13-essential-programming-tools-the-mobile-web-246 *When it comes to programming for mobile devices, choice quickly becomes dilemma. Do you target the lucrative iPhone market at the expense of Android's rising tide? Do you go native or write code to the

Re: [OT] dialect divergence?

Thanks for the effort Bob. I'm sure someone out there gleaned something useful from your posting. I forgot to mention my other major "discomfiture" with LC; having to create "backgrounds" by grouping. I much preferred the HC hierarchy. A major pain and gray matter adjustment! LC is advancing f

Re: [OT] dialect divergence?

Sorry Bob - didn't read your post through to the end, ignore my post. Pete Molly's Revenge On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:54 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > I like to think of properties as read only variables, which can only be > altered by "setting" them to some other va

Re: [OT] dialect divergence?

Agree with most of that... BUT properties are not persistent in standalones if they are in the mainstack or any substack of the standalone. If you need property persistence in a standalone, you must use "splash screen" approach, or something similar. Pete Molly's Revenge

Re: [OT] dialect divergence?

I like to think of properties as read only variables, which can only be altered by "setting" them to some other variable or constant. Properties have two things that make them attractive: The first is that they are "global" in the sense that you can get any custom property of any object from any

Re: [OT] is the Lion really just a donkey sewn inside an old lion skin?

Clive Staples, of course. Any more trivia challenges, or is that your last battle? From one fan to another. Tim Selander Tokyo, Japan On 6/14/11 5:35 AM, Bob Sneidar wrote: Ok, so here's a bit of trivia. Promise you won't look it up on the internet or go get one of his books! What does the C

Re: [OT] dialect divergence?

Personally, and all of you will think I'm crazy, I treat every app I create as if I were coding it in HC with a few added features such as color and large screens. Occasionally I run into a problem; but that is quite rare. That's the KISS approach to LC. (smile) Do I waste a lot of time? Perhaps

Re: [OT] is the Lion really just a donkey sewn inside an old lion skin?

Ok, so here's a bit of trivia. Promise you won't look it up on the internet or go get one of his books! What does the C.S. stand for? Bob On Jun 13, 2011, at 12:45 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > On 06/13/2011 09:24 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: >> A reference to C.S. Lewis! I like it! > > Very, very

Re: [OT] dialect divergence?

Most "logic" and mathematical code should work if it uses HC-SC 'primitives', UI related stuff, yes, difficult to translate. But Rev/Livecode has so many little binary 'goodies' it would be counterproductive to do an automatic translation. A human has to be involved if you really want this thing t

Re: [OT] dialect divergence?

Richmond Mathewson wrote: While Supercard and Livecode share a common heritage, is it wise to assume that their dialects of HyperTalk have diverged to the point where it is extremely difficult to modify the code in one to work adequately in the other? Unfortunately the most concise answer is "s

Re: Chat transcripts for Live LiveCode.tv events?

Hi Ben, If you want the full experience, you'll have to participate in the event. The organisers don't keep a transcript. If something relevant for the presentation is entered in the chat, it is usually repeated by the presenter. If someone on this list has a transcript, I hope s/he will be so

Chat transcripts for Live LiveCode.tv events?

Björnke et al, I've never managed to attend a livecode.tv event live, but I've really appreciated the ones I've viewed on ustream (hate the ads, but I guess a necessary evil unless anyone finds a better alternative). But it's frustrating for us retro-viewers to not see the chat part of the ev

[OT] dialect divergence?

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Re: [OT] is the Lion really just a donkey sewn inside an old lion skin?

On 06/13/2011 09:24 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: A reference to C.S. Lewis! I like it! Very, very well spotted . . . :) Bob On Jun 12, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: The thing that makes me wonder is Apple's appropriation of the term "launchpad" from somewhere else: https://launch

Re: [OT] Ubuntu: Something wicked happened

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Re: Windows 7 and the plugin

Bob- Monday, June 13, 2011, 11:13:43 AM, you wrote: > I, knowing not that much I must warn you, suggest installing the > last 32 bit version of Firefox, 3.6 or something, and trying the > plugin that way. Unfortunately the plugin doesn't work with Firefox on Windows in 32-bit mode either. But I

Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

Warren- Monday, June 13, 2011, 9:51:09 AM, you wrote: > using this command: '/myApp -h a-param -o some-param' answers > "/myApp -h a-param -o some-param" and then > answers "hooboy, it works". Note also that the engine differentiates between upper- and lower-case commandline arguments, so that

Re: Exporting previously imported audioclips

No, I don't want my currently crappy-looking code to be seen by anybody right now, but if you have a pressing need to export audio from a stack right now, I can provide a protected stack at some point in the next week or so . I've made export of most sounds to AIFF work, but I used some odd handma

RE: Installer Maker Discount

> Not after just 4 months. Most software I buy has at least a > year lifespan for the license. The time seems short to me, but then again its not all that expensive to begin with, so perhaps if there was "full year of upgrades" option it would be perceived differently. Keep in mind some previous

Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

Richard- Monday, June 13, 2011, 9:53:30 AM, you wrote: > On Windows XP, however, I run into an odd issue: I can find a way to > have the app quit itself after launching with -ui without generating an > OS error. > Anyone here have experience using faceless standalones on Windows that > might he

Re: Installer Maker Discount

Not after just 4 months. Most software I buy has at least a year lifespan for the license. On 13 June 2011 11:15, Bob Sneidar wrote: > Isn't that how it usually works with all software? > > Bob > > > On Jun 11, 2011, at 9:19 AM, stephen barncard wrote: > > > But those of us who paid 4 months ago

Re: Conkers

what's the quality center? On 13 Jun 2011, at 19:51, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2008-April/109662.html > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscr

Re: [OT] is the Lion really just a donkey sewn inside an old lion skin?

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Bob Sneidar wrote: > You should look into how much energy it takes to make electric or hybrid > cars, and then how much energy it takes to dispose of them. :-) > > Bob > > > On Jun 12, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Roger Eller wrote: > > > As a robo-fanboy, I appreciate recycl

Re: [OT] is the Lion really just a donkey sewn inside an old lion skin?

So you are saying you have devolved? ;-) Actually, that is not a bad thing sometimes. Bob On Jun 12, 2011, at 6:52 PM, Andre Garzia wrote: > For 11 years, I've been an Apple advocate here, I still recommend it to my > friends because I know it is better than Windows and requires less > mainte

Re: [OT] is the Lion really just a donkey sewn inside an old lion skin?

Also keep in mind that even with Release Candidates, they only means that the SYSTEM is RC. When Tiger first came out, one of our guys who was a developer was passing around a gold RC1 install disks. With much swearing and woe, they discovered that Safari and some other components were still bet

Re: [OT] is the Lion really just a donkey sewn inside an old lion skin?

You should look into how much energy it takes to make electric or hybrid cars, and then how much energy it takes to dispose of them. :-) Bob On Jun 12, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Roger Eller wrote: > As a robo-fanboy, I appreciate recycled electronics. My PC, until recently, > lived through 10 years o

Re: [OT] is the Lion really just a donkey sewn inside an old lion skin?

I was under the impression that everything from Leopard on was fully 64 bit? Bob On Jun 12, 2011, at 10:48 AM, stephen barncard wrote: > Well for one thing, everything Apple in Lion is 64 bit and is DAMN FAST on > my 12-core. Quite a jump from the old G5 of the same speed. Granted, there > wa

Re: [OT] is the Lion really just a donkey sewn inside an old lion skin?

A reference to C.S. Lewis! I like it! Bob On Jun 12, 2011, at 5:42 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > The thing that makes me wonder is Apple's appropriation of the term > "launchpad" > from somewhere else: > > https://launchpad.net/ > > they may have even nicked the logo: > http://www.volacio

Re: Conkers

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: > http://lists.runrev.com/pipermail/use-livecode/2008-April/109662.html > > ___ > use-livecode mailing list > use-livecode@lists.runrev.com > Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and m

Re: Exporting previously imported audioclips

On 6/13/11 10:39 AM, Richmond Mathewson wrote: On 06/13/2011 08:23 PM, stephen barncard wrote: Contact me off list. It can be done. Why, pray, off-list? Is this some sort of private knowledge that cannot be shared? And if it can be explained, can it not be programmed? Phil On 13 June 20

Re: Why No Built in GetMyIP call in LiveCode?

Me too. My mind gets hazy and I feel unexplainably euphoric, like when I used to smoke pot as a teenager. Bob On Jun 10, 2011, at 7:39 PM, J. Landman Gay wrote: > Good explantion, I like when regex gets explained. ___ use-livecode mailing list us

Re: Installer Maker Discount

Isn't that how it usually works with all software? Bob On Jun 11, 2011, at 9:19 AM, stephen barncard wrote: > But those of us who paid 4 months ago are outa luck? > > On 11 June 2011 02:15, Mark Schonewille > wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Just a quick note to let you know that you can still get th

Re: Windows 7 and the plugin

I believe it is an issue with Firefox running in 64 bit mode, the current default. The plug-in is still only 32 bit. Frankly I avoid 64 bit like the plague when it comes to Windows, and even on my Mac the new Firefox causes more problems than I am used to. I have to restart my machine every day

Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

On 6/13/11 10:49 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: Björnke von Gierke wrote: ah, so maybe this is not a bug, but a hidden feature... maybe -s saves uhm stacks... or more likely, it specifies a stack to open? is there any documentation about what is accepted besides -ui by LC apps? If you dive into t

Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

Warren Samples wrote: It seems to be working here although certain letters seem not to be usable. For example -s does not work. I can get an answer dialog to return "-h" when used as a cl flag and the app will do something if there is a variable $x which equals -h. as a silly example, this sc

Conkers

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Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

Björnke von Gierke wrote: ah, so maybe this is not a bug, but a hidden feature... maybe -s saves uhm stacks... or more likely, it specifies a stack to open? is there any documentation about what is accepted besides -ui by LC apps? If you dive into the engine you can dig up all the old flags,

Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

ah, so maybe this is not a bug, but a hidden feature... maybe -s saves uhm stacks... or more likely, it specifies a stack to open? is there any documentation about what is accepted besides -ui by LC apps? On 13 Jun 2011, at 18:51, Warren Samples wrote: > Richard, > > It seems to be working her

Re: Exporting previously imported audioclips

On 06/13/2011 08:23 PM, stephen barncard wrote: Contact me off list. It can be done. Why, pray, off-list? Is this some sort of private knowledge that cannot be shared? On 13 June 2011 03:18, Christian Langerswrote: Too bad :( Thanks for your reply. Perhaps RunRev has to expand to make a

RE: double byte chars

Have you used set caseSensitive to true? If it doesn't do what you want, you can always compare the decimal character code points, 1072 for the lower case a, 1040 for the upper case A etc. I do use "select after" in my fields with Russian/English text to set the insertion point and have not not

Re: Live LiveCode code event #27 Wrapup

Hi everybody Please consider presenting, contact me or Mark Schonewille with any idea considering the event. I have also updated the "participate" page, to include some topics that people have voiced interest in: http://livecode.tv/participate/ As for the current event, Andreas showed a tutoria

Re: Exporting previously imported audioclips

Contact me off list. It can be done. On 13 June 2011 03:18, Christian Langers wrote: > Too bad :( > > Thanks for your reply. > > Perhaps RunRev has to expand to make all of their (basic) tasks/projects > happen… > > ;) > > Christian > > > Le 13 juin 2011 à 11:51, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : > >

re: double byte chars

Thanks to all who replied. I finally got it right using UTF8. Just one more question about this - does Rev unicode support not handle case sensitivity? Or is there something I need to do? My scripts won't match a word if it is capitalized, but my no- unicode apps of course do. It's not a huge tr

Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

On Monday, June 13, 2011 07:41:32 AM Richard Gaskin wrote: > As Todd Geist quoted here earlier, in the Dictionary entry for "$" it says: > > If you start up the application from the command line (on OS X, > Unix or Windows systems), the command name is stored in the > global variabl

Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

Jacque wrote: On 6/13/11 7:41 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: 2. If this is indeed a documentation bug and what I see in my tests is what happens for everyone, how can I determine whether the app was launched with "-ui" or not? Have you tried "if there is a window then..." ? Thanks for the idea

Where is "Limit object" stored?

Hi, i'm looking for the (custom?) property where the "Limit object" values from the Geometry pane of the property inspector are stored. So, it has to do with the Geometry Manager, right? I can't find any clues in the user User Guide/Dictionary/Lessons. I'd like to set some values there and read

Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

On 6/13/11 7:41 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: 2. If this is indeed a documentation bug and what I see in my tests is what happens for everyone, how can I determine whether the app was launched with "-ui" or not? Have you tried "if there is a window then..." ? -- Jacqueline Landman Gay |

Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Richard Gaskin wrote: > Mark Schonewille wrote: > > Hi Richard, >> >> What does the environment function return, if launched with -ui? >> > > It returns "standalone application" whether launched with -ui or not. > > @Andre: Thanks for the suggestion, but I'd rea

Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

Thanks for the clarification - logged: -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://LiveCodejournal.c

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Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

Mark Schonewille wrote: Hi Richard, What does the environment function return, if launched with -ui? It returns "standalone application" whether launched with -ui or not. @Andre: Thanks for the suggestion, but I'd really like to keep things simple for the user so I'd prefer not to rely on a

Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

if you can live with a script launches instead of calling the standalone directly then you can set some environment variables by hand and then check the on the startup handler, something along the lines of: standalone.sh: #!/bin/bash export ARGS=$1 ./standalone.x86 And then you check for the

Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

err, sorry for being unclear. I mean it's a bug as in, it should work as you expected. in addition, there's no workaround that i'd know of. On 13 Jun 2011, at 15:50, Richard Gaskin wrote: > > "Bug" in the documentation, or the implementation? > > Any workaround to determine if launched facele

Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

Hi Richard, What does the environment function return, if launched with -ui? -- Best regards, Mark Schonewille Economy-x-Talk Consulting and Software Engineering Homepage: http://economy-x-talk.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/xtalkprogrammer KvK: 50277553 New: Download the Installer Maker Plug

Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

"Bug" in the documentation, or the implementation? Any workaround to determine if launched facelessly? -- Richard Gaskin Fourth World LiveCode training and consulting: http://www.fourthworld.com Webzine for LiveCode developers: http://www.LiveCodeJournal.com LiveCode Journal blog: http://L

Re: Distinguishing CLI from GUI

bug On 13 Jun 2011, at 14:41, Richard Gaskin wrote: > As Todd Geist quoted here earlier, in the Dictionary entry for "$" it says: > >If you start up the application from the command line (on OS X, >Unix or Windows systems), the command name is stored in the >global variable $0 and an

Distinguishing CLI from GUI

As Todd Geist quoted here earlier, in the Dictionary entry for "$" it says: If you start up the application from the command line (on OS X, Unix or Windows systems), the command name is stored in the global variable $0 and any arguments passed on the command line are stored in num

Re: custom control group - strange behavior

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Re: Exporting previously imported audioclips

Too bad :( Thanks for your reply. Perhaps RunRev has to expand to make all of their (basic) tasks/projects happen… ;) Christian Le 13 juin 2011 à 11:51, Richmond Mathewson a écrit : > On 06/13/2011 12:40 PM, Christian Langers wrote: >> Hello, >> >> is someone able to tell me how to export/s

[OT] Ubuntu: Something wicked happened

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Re: Exporting previously imported audioclips

On 06/13/2011 12:40 PM, Christian Langers wrote: Hello, is someone able to tell me how to export/save imported sound files (in .aif, .wav., .au -format) back to disk ? This is an "old chestnut" that comes up every so often. Unfortunately, LiveCode cannot export/save imported sound files. T

Exporting previously imported audioclips

Hello, is someone able to tell me how to export/save imported sound files (in .aif, .wav., .au -format) back to disk ? Thanks, Christian ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please visit this url to subscribe, unsubscribe and

custom control group - strange behavior

I have grouped objects together and set 'selectGroupedControls' to false to create a custom control. Usually this works no problem, but in this one case I have the following scenario; (The names are fictitious, but hopefully easier to follow) The group 'customControl' contains groups, labels a

UDP, multicast

Hi, Is there a way to send or receive multicast in livecode? I want to use that with a TTL=2 so devices on the same network can discover each other (cross-platform). Thanks, Maarten ___ use-livecode mailing list use-livecode@lists.runrev.com Please vis

combo box into datagrid row

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Re: How to structure HTML text (tags and attributes) for processing in LiveCode?

Thanks Jim/Peter/Mark for the insights and code examples. It's now very clear that there is no prebuilt, standard mechanism within LiveCode (native or a library/external) for forcing soft-wrapping on HTML text by tags and attributes to allow further manipulation by line & item chunk expression