Very cool, I too would love to hear more about this setup
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I have posted Rob Beards report to the lug wiki and now added a link to
the LTSP site, Will try to add more information as I get it.
Can't do too much as I wasn't directly involved in the problem.
http://www.dcglug.org.uk/members/wiki/?id=Saturday
The other way to get windows out of schools is to remove the glass and
replace with bricks :-)
David King
Vinothan Shankar wrote:
> I've created a petition to the Prime Minister to make the primary OS in
> schools free and open source - it can be found at
> http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/non
Signed -- cheers for setting that up. Doug.
2009/2/9 David King
> The other way to get windows out of schools is to remove the glass and
> replace with bricks :-)
>
> David King
>
>
> Vinothan Shankar wrote:
> > I've created a petition to the Prime Minister to make the primary OS in
> > school
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Aparently primnary schools are forced to use MS office so the children
are ready for what is used in Secondary schools which is I guess a fair
argument i guess. And i guess secondaries feel obliged to use MS office
as they see it as "industry standard
> Aparently primnary schools are forced to use MS office so the children
> are ready for what is used in Secondary schools which is I guess a fair
> argument i guess. And i guess secondaries feel obliged to use MS office
> as they see it as "industry standard."
There used to be a saying in the co
2009/2/9 Paul Sutton :
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> Can't do too much as I wasn't directly involved in the problem.
>
> http://www.d
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>> http://www.dcglug.org.uk/members/wiki/?id=Saturday+7th+February+2009+-+Exwick+Community+Centre%2C+Exeter
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>
> That URL just gave me a 401 response. Probably not what you intended. :-)
>
> Cofion,
> Neil.
>
http://www.dcglug.org.uk/wiki/?id
Even if school's don't solely use Windows, they usually have to use it as
the main OS, as the AQA exam software only works with Windows, not under
Wine; and the SIMS software uses MS Word to view files, which cannot be
changed to OpenOffice even on Windows as it's hardcoded into the XML file.
On M
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Good point, so perhaps we should lobby the AQA to use open standards.
Paul
Harry Rickards wrote:
> Even if school's don't solely use Windows, they usually have to use it as
> the main OS, as the AQA exam software only works with Windows, not under
That's true, but aren't they both adminstrative functions?
How many PC's are there in an average school vs. the average number of
adminstrative PC's?
Lee
Without wishing to sound like a know-it-all, if the SIMS software uses
an XML file to control what's used to view files (as per your mail
b
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You could probably go with having MS on the admin network, then Linux or
fre softare on the academic network,
eventually people will filter through who can and want to use
alternatives, then chance will come
problem is MS seem to have a huge marketin
2009/2/9 LeeGroups :
> Without wishing to sound like a know-it-all, if the SIMS software uses
> an XML file to control what's used to view files (as per your mail
> below), then XML files can easily be altered... they are straight ASCII
> files which can be edited with Notepad...
Its OK, you are a
2009/2/8 Vinothan Shankar :
> I've created a petition to the Prime Minister to make the primary OS in
> schools free and open source - it can be found at
> http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/nonMSschools. To anyone that points
> out I should have suggested Ubuntu for Education, the first submission
Your cause is honorable however for Linux to turn the trend. you must first
prove to those schools that Linux is better and that it can do things far
better than windows. In the Linux community there has to be a leap in ideas
where when the user logs on he/she is presented, ready to use icons on th
LeeGroups wrote
> There used to be a saying in the computer industry which was "Nobody
> ever got fired for buying IBM".
> I think it's shifted to Microsoft. Speaking from experience,
> most school "IT department heads" don't know that much about IT.
> They perceive it as a 'safe' option to go wi
Sean Miller wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> Can you just post a little about the infrastructure you've put in place?
>
> Is this thin client?
>
> Sean
>
Yep no problem.
Basically (a shortened version), the system is using Ubuntu 8.04.2 with
the LTSP server packages installed and a few extra applications
I haven't tried it myself, but according to
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sf-uk-mias/browse_thread/thread/9944ecbcb49896cf?hl=en&q=sims#b482426374ef3534,
http://www.edugeek.net/forums/office-software/29498-open-office-v-ms-office.html,
http://www.edugeek.net/forums/mis-systems/4504-sims-net-does
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> Can't do too much as I wasn't directly involved in the problem.
>
> http://
Harry Rickards wrote:
> Even if school's don't solely use Windows, they usually have to use it as
> the main OS, as the AQA exam software only works with Windows, not under
> Wine; and the SIMS software uses MS Word to view files, which cannot be
> changed to OpenOffice even on Windows as it's hard
On Mon, 09 Feb 2009 16:20:27 +, Rob Beard wrote:
> Harry Rickards wrote:
>> Even if school's don't solely use Windows, they usually have to use it
as
>> the main OS, as the AQA exam software only works with Windows, not under
>> Wine; and the SIMS software uses MS Word to view files, which can
Philip Stubbs wrote:
> I don't think I will sign. Simply, I don't think that schools should
> teach how to use MS Office or OpenOffice. What they should teach is
> how to use a spreadsheet and a word processor. A selection should then
> be made available and the students allowed to get a feel for d
LeeGroups wrote:
>> Aparently primnary schools are forced to use MS office so the children
>> are ready for what is used in Secondary schools which is I guess a fair
>> argument i guess. And i guess secondaries feel obliged to use MS office
>> as they see it as "industry standard."
> There used to
>> There used to be a saying in the computer industry which was "Nobody
>> ever got fired for buying IBM".
>> I think it's shifted to Microsoft. Speaking from experience,
>> most school "IT department heads" don't know that much about IT.
>> They perceive it as a 'safe' option to go with MS, eve
Someone I know who goes to a CLAIT course was told that an Operating System
meant Windows, no mention of Linux or Mac OSX, and that an application was
simply either an MS Office App or IE, again do mention of OpenOffice or
Firefox. Maybe the instructors don't even know alternatives to MS software
e
LeeGroups wrote:
> Andrew Oakley wrote:
[MS home/academic/student licences at up to 90% discount]
> > If you try to argue against Microsoft on grounds of price,
> > you'll fail every time. Home users, schools, universities
> > and students don't pay full rate for software. Only
...
> I understand
That style letter was understandable from Microslop how ever they did forget to
say that they also give free lolly pops to all the starving children in the
developing countries that they advertise there products
Rik Boland
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We need Jus
Harry Rickards wrote:
> Someone I know who goes to a CLAIT course was told that an Operating System
> meant Windows, no mention of Linux or Mac OSX, and that an application was
> simply either an MS Office App or IE, again do mention of OpenOffice or
> Firefox. Maybe the instructors don't even know
I did the European Driving License a few years ago and there was no mention of
open source alternatives. I didn't know about it untill a friend told me about
Linux because soloey because me Microslop PC was broken and had to buy another
copy of XP to fix it. This I couldn't afford.
Rik Boland
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> eventually people will filter through who can and want to use
> alternatives, then chance will come
>
> pro
Imho, a great place to advertise would be the morning star newspaper:
http://www.morningstaronline.co.uk
Its socialist/communist, so it would be good targeted advertising
(since socialism/communism=no to capitalism eg big companies like
Microsoft)
The circulations not bad at about 50,000 copies sol
2009/2/8 Vinothan Shankar :
> I've created a petition to the Prime Minister to make the primary OS in
> schools free and open source - it can be found at
> http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/nonMSschools. To anyone that points
> out I should have suggested Ubuntu for Education, the first submission
alan c wrote:
> Marketing!
> Marketing is the key skill with a company such as MS. It is also the
> weakest point with FOSS.
>
>
Yep, I think part of the problem is the fact that as individuals we
probably don't have much money to put into marketing. In my area I've
been giving out Ubuntu CD
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Hi
I have created a mini advert type thing thats probably small enough to
go in the window of a shop, (e.g newsagent), it has link to the
dcglug, but its aimed and promoting ubuntu and more importantly support
networks via the lug, (mail discussion
Sorry if I've missed something but where can you get the files?
James
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James Milligan wrote:
> Sorry if I've missed something but where can you get the files?
>
> James
www.zleap.net
under downloads then under ubuntu.
Paul
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> On 9 Feb 2009, at 19:20, Paul Sutton wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I have created a mini advert ty
There has been talk about Microslop getting out of schools but what about the
NHS how much does it cost per year for them to use Microslow. Is it one nurse,
or a ward or even more?
Rik Boland
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Thanks!
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>> James
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> Paul
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>> On 9 Feb 2009
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> I just wish there were computer fairs down here in Devon, there used to
> be one a few years back but nothing like that now, the nearest thing is
> a car boot sale. I wonder actually if we'd be able to give away Ubuntu
> CDs at car boot sales wi
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I did a google search for uk computer fairs and found the followin site
http://www.britishcomputerfairs.com/index.htm
there is a contact form, on the site which I tried to use to ask for
more fairs here in devon as the nearest one is bristol
However
Just to announce that details are now on the wiki about the Birmingham Venue
for
the BugJam.
I still need to get a few more details, like seating arrangements etc, but
please, do sign up on the wiki if interested, espescially if you're interested
in leading a session.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/
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Yay
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1134609/India-set-launch-worlds-cheapest-laptop--7.html
Paul
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> http://www.britishcomputerfairs.com/index.htm
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> there is a contact form, on the site which I tried to use to ask
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> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1134609/India-set-launch-worlds-cheapest-laptop--7.html
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I'm a wee bit dubious about that claim lol!
Ch
i dont think its going to be that cheap. Especially in a country where a
cheapy crappy basic of the shelf nokia will cost you at least Rs2000. Thats
like £15 or something!
:)
2009/2/9 Chris Rowson
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Read about this in the guardian a while back. I agree with chris - any
laptop would probably be worth more than that even as scrap.
2009/2/9 Paul Sutton :
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> http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1134609/India-set-launch-worlds-ch
2009/2/9 Matt Jones :
> http://infopointproject.org/wordpress/
> Looks to be a little dead now, but was exactly what you described, I
> think it was started by Jono and some of the other lugradio guys.
It was indeed kicked off by Jono. It has passed around a few people.
SussexLUG did a few comput
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> The good news is that one of our very own - Alan Cocks is doing great
> work in Bracknell, Berkshire. He's probably run more stands at
> computer fairs than any of the other teams put together!
>
> If you want to know anything about running stan
2009/2/9 Paul Sutton :
> I am sure if one was organised there are enough of us here, on both
> lists to have a good presence to represent free software.
>
I applaud your optimism. Past history indicates this isn't necessarily
an accurate prediction of the future.
Go with it though, it's certainly
Uh oh.I've just deleted important stuff from my g1. Any ubuntu tools I
can use to get it back? I know a few in windows but I don't wana have
to use that! Thanks javad
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I signed the petition as well.
I am thinking that the schools'/education system's thinking is a bit out
of date. Why teach the children just one OS when there are many choices
now in the real world? Not all companies use the same OS. Some use
Windows XP, some use Windows Vista, and on servers t
On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, javadayaz wrote:
> Uh oh.I've just deleted important stuff from my g1. Any ubuntu tools
Try 'magicrescue' (from searching for 'undelete').
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From listening to a recent PC Pro podcast, this £7 "laptop" is not a
laptop at all, but just an external storage device of some kind to
attach to existing computers.
Whatever it is, it will probably have an embedded OS based on Linux.
But please do not believe everything you read in the Daily
First of all, don't do anything to the G1 AT ALL, probably best to
whip the battery out. I would recommend Photorec, it's in the repos.
Follow the instructions on the website for a good explanation of how
to use it.
Matt.
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 11:56 PM, javadayaz wrote:
> Uh oh.I've just delet
damn...im gona have to relearn how to install from source. i havent done it
for ages! :( lol
2009/2/10 Paul Sladen
> On Mon, 9 Feb 2009, javadayaz wrote:
> > Uh oh.I've just deleted important stuff from my g1. Any ubuntu tools
>
> Try 'magicrescue' (from searching for 'undelete').
>
>-Pa
well i took the card out almost straight away. i have also installed test
disk aka photorec but that didnt find anything.
Its not just pics though its other stuff in there like .3gp videos
2009/2/10 Matt Jones
> First of all, don't do anything to the G1 AT ALL, probably best to
> whip the batte
ok sorry in my pamic i may have used the app wrong. im running it again!!!
:)
wish me luck
2009/2/10 javadayaz
> well i took the card out almost straight away. i have also installed test
> disk aka photorec but that didnt find anything.
>
> Its not just pics though its other stuff in there like
before i hit the hay just wanted to sayyay it worked
2009/2/10 javadayaz
> ok sorry in my pamic i may have used the app wrong. im running it again!!!
> :)
>
> wish me luck
>
> 2009/2/10 javadayaz
>
> well i took the card out almost straight away. i have also installed test
>> disk aka photo
"$10-laptop proves to be a damp squib"
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Hyderabad/10-laptop_proves_to_be_a_damp_squib/articleshow/4072417.cms
Picture here
http://i.gizmodo.com/5145998/indias-10-laptop-basically-a-big-dumb-joke
2009/2/10 David King
> From listening to a recent PC Pro podcast,
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