Re: [ubuntu-uk] Phishing and linux

2007-10-03 Thread Martyn
> I'm not sure what to make of comments about phishing sites I came across > here > > http://www.theregister.com/2007/10/03/ebay_paypal_online_banking/ > > as follows: > > "These things are incredibly sophisticated, and when they take over a > computer, most [users] don't know it," he said. "With e

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

2007-10-03 Thread Darren.Mansell
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:ubuntu-uk- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Daubney > Sent: 02 October 2007 20:19 > To: British Ubuntu Talk > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers > > James Grabham wrote: > > If its an internet connection it will be Mb (meg

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Phishing and linux

2007-10-03 Thread Mac
Martyn wrote: >> I'm not sure what to make of comments about phishing sites I came across >> here >> >> http://www.theregister.com/2007/10/03/ebay_paypal_online_banking/ >> >> as follows: >> >> "These things are incredibly sophisticated, and when they take over a >> computer, most [users] don't kno

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Phishing and linux

2007-10-03 Thread Alan Pope
Hi, On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 09:05 +0100, Mac wrote: > I hope we can just assume this is FUD. Does anyone more familiar with > server security have anything consoling thoughts? > AIUI most compromised Windows boxes are due to user error, people not installing patches or firewalls on their windows

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [ubuntu-marketing] countdown for gutsy

2007-10-03 Thread Mark Harrison
I think it would be good to have an idea of how many ubuntu-uk people are doing this. Would it be appropriate to put a page on the wiki where people could add links to their sites (sites showing this banner only.) Clearly someone would need to write some weasel words making it clear that Ubunt

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

2007-10-03 Thread Mark Harrison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've got a laptop with a broken screen as my home server. Got it for > free from a family member but they are dirt cheap and fleabay. Its got > 80GB storage, integrated UPS, (very) low power consumption and with > speedstep enabled on the CPU and laptop-mode enabled on th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Phishing and linux

2007-10-03 Thread Mark Harrison
Mac wrote: > I hope we can just assume this is FUD. Does anyone more familiar with > server security have anything consoling thoughts? > I seriously hope that we DON'T assume this is FUD. I think that Alan has summed up the key issue nicely. Anyone who goes around saying "Linux is secure, Wi

[ubuntu-uk] Preparing my Server for Gutsy - help

2007-10-03 Thread Mark Allison
Hi, I posted this on the Ubuntu forums, but no replies. I wonder if you guys have any ideas? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=565302 Text of post: Hi there, I want to upgrade to Gutsy when it is released on my Ubuntu Feisty headless server. What I'd like to do is to take an image of my

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Phishing and linux

2007-10-03 Thread Tony Arnold
Mac, On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 07:22 +0100, Mac wrote: > I'm not sure what to make of comments about phishing sites I came across > here > > http://www.theregister.com/2007/10/03/ebay_paypal_online_banking/ > > as follows: > > "These things are incredibly sophisticated, and when they take over a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preparing my Server for Gutsy - help

2007-10-03 Thread Daniel Lamb
Why not dd it to another drive so you can always put that in if things go wrong, you will only need the programs part as an upgrade will not affect your data which I would assume is in sda1: /var/lib/backuppc -- 500GB? Once you have done a dd then simply type in apt-get dist-upgrade to do the upgr

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preparing my Server for Gutsy - help

2007-10-03 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Mark, On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 09:37 +0100, Mark Allison wrote: > I want to upgrade to Gutsy when it is released on my Ubuntu Feisty > headless server. Why? What is there in Gutsy that isn't in Feisty that you _need_? Feisty is still supported. That aside, on with your question.. > What I'd l

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preparing my Server for Gutsy - help

2007-10-03 Thread Mark Allison
On 10/3/07, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Mark, > > On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 09:37 +0100, Mark Allison wrote: > > I want to upgrade to Gutsy when it is released on my Ubuntu Feisty > > headless server. > > Why? What is there in Gutsy that isn't in Feisty that you _need_? > > Feisty is stil

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Phishing and linux

2007-10-03 Thread Mac
Alan Pope wrote: > AIUI most compromised Windows boxes are due to user error, people not > installing patches or firewalls on their windows desktops and laptops. > > AIUI most compromised Linux boxes are due to user error, people not > installing patches for server apps and scripted applications

Re: [ubuntu-uk] K3b- Burning DVD problems-still stuck

2007-10-03 Thread STONE COLD
This is the drive i am using. http://www.liteonit.eu/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=235&Itemid=67 I rechecked the DVD and its a single layer rewriteable + dvd! Im still stuck! > Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2007 08:11:46 +0100> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Sub

Re: [ubuntu-uk] K3b- Burning DVD problems-still stuck

2007-10-03 Thread Daniel Lamb
Im sorry to be stupid then but are you using 4.7GB discs By the Stone cold did you get the Loewe? Regards, Daniel _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of STONE COLD Sent: 03 October 2007 11:10 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] K3b- Burni

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Phishing and linux

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Jones
Hi Mac wrote: > I hope we can just assume this is FUD. Does anyone more familiar with > server security have anything consoling thoughts? My guess would be: Lots more Linux servers than Windows ones, probably lots that don't have system security patches applied[0] and lots and lots and lots and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Phishing and linux

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Rowson
> My guess would be: Lots more Linux servers than Windows ones, probably > lots that don't have system security patches applied[0] and lots and > lots and lots and lots and lots of PHP code running on them which is > even less likely to be getting security love :/ > > [0] MS are getting very good a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Phishing and linux

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Jones
Hi Chris Rowson wrote: > Linux is free. modulo hardware costs, of course. > Wouldn't that create some difference in how well the servers are > looked after. It's entirely plausible, yes :/ Cheers, -- Chris Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.canonical.com -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com http

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preparing my Server for Gutsy - help

2007-10-03 Thread Alan Pope
Hi again, On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 10:35 +0100, Mark Allison wrote: > You raise a good point there! I wanted to upgrade BackupPC to version > 3.0 (released in Gutsy) - but there's nothing much else I need to > upgrade really. I could just download version 3 of BackupPC from their > website and insta

Re: [ubuntu-uk] K3b- Burning DVD problems-still stuck

2007-10-03 Thread STONE COLD
yes in fact i am using the 4.7gb discs... No unfortunately i didnt get the loewe in the end..although i did go and see it in person..man it was beautiful...Ive put off buying one until i have green to to buy one! the one i saw was about 2k! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Wed, 3 Oct

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Phishing and linux

2007-10-03 Thread Tony Arnold
Chris, On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 11:45 +0100, Chris Rowson wrote: > > My guess would be: Lots more Linux servers than Windows ones, probably > > lots that don't have system security patches applied[0] and lots and > > lots and lots and lots and lots of PHP code running on them which is > > even less l

[ubuntu-uk] mythbuntu- stable release

2007-10-03 Thread STONE COLD
hi, Just wanted to know if anyone can tell me when a stable version based on gutsy will be released? ive looked everywhere and cant see it! cheers -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

2007-10-03 Thread Philip Newborough
On 03/10/2007, Mark Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I've got a laptop with a broken screen as my home server. Got it for > > free from a family member but they are dirt cheap and fleabay. Its got > > 80GB storage, integrated UPS, (very) low power consumption and w

[ubuntu-uk] Testing a machine with a Live CD

2007-10-03 Thread Neil Greenwood
Hi all, What programs do people run on a new machine that's booted off the Live CD to check that everything is working/supported? Hwyl, Neil. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preparing my Server for Gutsy - help

2007-10-03 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 03/10/2007, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [snip] > So just edit your sources.list and make sure the entry for > feisty-backports is enabled then you can just do a dist-upgrade and > you'll get it. You can also do this through the Software Sources application on the System > Administrat

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preparing my Server for Gutsy - help

2007-10-03 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 16:00 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote: > On 03/10/2007, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] > > So just edit your sources.list and make sure the entry for > > feisty-backports is enabled then you can just do a dist-upgrade and > > you'll get it. > > You can also do t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

2007-10-03 Thread Kris Douglas
On 03/10/2007, Philip Newborough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 03/10/2007, Mark Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > I've got a laptop with a broken screen as my home server. Got it for > > > free from a family member but they are dirt cheap and fleabay. Its go

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preparing my Server for Gutsy - help

2007-10-03 Thread Mark Allison
> > You can also do this through the Software Sources application on the > > System > Administration menu, if you don't like the command-line. > > > > Not usually on a server :) > > I am only guessing that it's a server based on the subject line ;) Yes, I'm using Ubuntu Server 7.04 and administeri

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

2007-10-03 Thread Tom Bamford
We use old laptops as servers for some tasks, mostly IBM ThinkPads because they're very well supported in Ubuntu and because they last for years. You don't get the performance you'd expect from a full-size unit and expansion/redundancy options are limited, but in this context (home networks) th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

2007-10-03 Thread james
Can you tell me what I can get, on a CD or DVD that I can load straight onto a bare computer that will work without any or to many problems? James. - Original Message - From: Tom Bamford To: British Ubuntu Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Preparing my Server for Gutsy - help

2007-10-03 Thread Chris Jones
Hi Mark Allison wrote: > How reliable are the backports? Would you rely on backports in a > production environment? This is only for my home LAN, but I have lots I'm not sure who maintains the feisty-backports, but I don't think they get the same level of security love as packages in feisty. Give

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

2007-10-03 Thread Kris Douglas
On 03/10/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Can you tell me what I can get, on a CD or DVD that I can load straight > onto a bare computer that will work without any or to many problems? > > James. > > - Original Message - > *From:* Tom Bamford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > *To

[ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems.

2007-10-03 Thread STONE COLD
ok apologies. i thought id start a new thread. tried burning with k3b but that failed miserabley. So now tried something called brasero!! this is the error message i got..i apologise for the copy and paste...it doesnt make any sense to me! imager (BraseroLocalImage) set_output job (BraseroLoca

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What do I need?

2007-10-03 Thread Kris Douglas
Hmm Windows... what a nasty word...anyway... Joomla is a nice piece of kit, its dead simple to install ubuntu, you just have to stick it in the drive and watch it load... Then just hit the install button on the desktop. The beauty of ubuntu is the fact that you hardly ever have to touch the command

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What do I need?

2007-10-03 Thread james
So, I just pop the CD in and that is it? What about the server, which has Windows server 2003 on it, I think? What about the extra hard drives with hundreds of digital pictures? I know questions questions questions!! James. - Original Message - From: Kris Douglas To: [EMAIL PRO

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What do I need?

2007-10-03 Thread Tom Bamford
It really depends how the machine is set up. If the Windows installation is on its own partition or disk, with the valuable data on another partition, you can use the Ubuntu installer to reformat the Windows volume and install there. Your other partitions/drives will be mounted when the install

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What do I need?

2007-10-03 Thread Kris Douglas
The server...if you want to get rid of server 2003 then you can do the same as with the optiplex. As for the hard drives, hmm. Do you have an external backup source that you could copy them onto whilst you install ubuntu? On 03/10/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So, I just

Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems.

2007-10-03 Thread norman
> ok apologies. i thought id start a new thread. > > tried burning with k3b but that failed miserabley. I have just noticed this thread and wondered if I could help. I often use k3b and frequently burn DVDs using Mythtv. I do not understand these things very well but I believe that they all use

Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems.

2007-10-03 Thread STONE COLD
ok here goes! i was trying to burn a couple of avi files as a dvd with k3b. and once i click on burn all that happens is that a little pop up appears with a progress bar stating "reformating disk". after that i just wait and all that happens is the dvd rom just opens and closes on its own. noth

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Phishing and linux

2007-10-03 Thread ged
Mac wrote: > I'm not sure what to make of comments about phishing sites I came across > here > > http://www.theregister.com/2007/10/03/ebay_paypal_online_banking/ > > as follows: > > "These things are incredibly sophisticated, and when they take over a > computer, most [users] don't know it," he

Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems.

2007-10-03 Thread Alan Pope
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 16:51 +, STONE COLD wrote: > :-( media is not formatted or unsupported.:-( write failed: Wrong > medium type That's the error. You are using a media that your drive doesn't support perhaps? Cheers Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Phishing and linux

2007-10-03 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Ged, On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 18:50 +0100, ged wrote: > What's the chance of being taken over by these things ? > How can I check for root kits on linux ? > On a desktop/laptop client slim, very slim. On a server running popular web applications, somewhat higher. On a system running out of date

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What do I need?

2007-10-03 Thread james
So where do I get the CD from, how much etc? James. - Original Message - From: Kris Douglas To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; British Ubuntu Talk Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 6:51 PM Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] What do I need? The server...if you want to get rid of server 2003 the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems.

2007-10-03 Thread STONE COLD
well the dvd is a + format... the drive is a liteon 20a1h regards javad > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 19:24:51 +0100 > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems. > > > On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 16:51 +, STONE COLD wrote: > > :-( media i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Phishing and linux

2007-10-03 Thread Tony Arnold
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 18:50 +0100, ged wrote: > Mac wrote: > > I'm not sure what to make of comments about phishing sites I came across > > here > > > > http://www.theregister.com/2007/10/03/ebay_paypal_online_banking/ > > > > as follows: > > > > "These things are incredibly sophisticated, and whe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Testing a machine with a Live CD

2007-10-03 Thread Stephen Drake
On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 15:55 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote: > Hi all, > > What programs do people run on a new machine that's booted off the > Live CD to check that everything is working/supported? > > Hwyl, > Neil. > I tend to go through the example content, trying out each of the files with thei

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Phishing and linux

2007-10-03 Thread ged
Tony Arnold wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 18:50 +0100, ged wrote: > >> Mac wrote: >> >>> I'm not sure what to make of comments about phishing sites I came across >>> here >>> >>> http://www.theregister.com/2007/10/03/ebay_paypal_online_banking/ >>> >>> as follows: >>> >>> "These things ar

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Testing a machine with a Live CD

2007-10-03 Thread David Morley
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 03/10/2007, Stephen Drake wrote: > On Wed, 2007-10-03 at 15:55 +0100, Neil Greenwood wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > What programs do people run on a new machine that's booted off the > > Live CD to check that everything is working/supported? > > > > Hw

Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems.

2007-10-03 Thread norman
> i was trying to burn a couple of avi files as a dvd with k3b. and once > i click on burn all that happens is that a little pop up appears with > a progress bar stating "reformating disk". after that i just wait and > all that happens is the dvd rom just opens and closes on its own. > nothing el

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small TFT monitors....

2007-10-03 Thread Ian Pascoe
You got a dressing room? Impressive! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mark Harrison Sent: 02 October 2007 11:11 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Small TFT monitors Sorry - forgot to mention, ideally CHEAP. I'm aware of t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems.

2007-10-03 Thread STONE COLD
thats right...i want to watch them on a dvd player which doesnt play the avi format! ill try devede! > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 20:47:42 +0100 > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] DVD burning problems. > > > > > i was trying to burn a couple of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] What do I need?

2007-10-03 Thread Kris Douglas
It's totally free :) You can get a free CD mailed to you, although that can take some time, or you can download an ISO image of the CD and burn it to a disk. www.ubuntu.com explains most of it. On 03/10/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So where do I get the CD from, how mu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] mythbuntu- stable release

2007-10-03 Thread Mark Fraser
On Wednesday 03 October 2007 13:37:29 STONE COLD wrote: > hi, > > Just wanted to know if anyone can tell me when a stable version based on > gutsy will be released? > > ive looked everywhere and cant see it! > > cheers Well, the public beta's just been released http://www.mythbuntu.org/node/67 -

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

2007-10-03 Thread LeeGroups
> > Just something to consider; > > If you can find a lower spec PC, (1 Ghz era is plenty) it would be > better; your specs are very high for the occasional bit of traffic. That > kind of PC will idle around 180 watts, running that 24/7 will add £32.25 > [1] a year to your electricity bill. >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

2007-10-03 Thread Matthew Daubney
LeeGroups wrote: >> >> Just something to consider; >> >> If you can find a lower spec PC, (1 Ghz era is plenty) it would be >> better; your specs are very high for the occasional bit of traffic. That >> kind of PC will idle around 180 watts, running that 24/7 will add £32.25 >> [1] a year to yo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

2007-10-03 Thread Matthew Daubney
Mark Harrison wrote: > > I have a number of mates who install "home automation" stuff (web > control of lights, multi-room audio and so on.) > > Quite a few of them have moved to laptops for the "home control servers" > because of their ability to handle short power outages gracefully! > > For

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home Servers

2007-10-03 Thread Daniel Lamb
Why not ask around family and friends? Surely someone will have an old laptop or even old pc which is less power hungry. To be honest I wouldn’t be over bothered about the energy (I say that as someone who provides IT support to an energy company) as there is plenty and its not a lot of money, an