Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-09-30 Thread Liam Proven
On 30 September 2013 15:55, Colin Law wrote: > I see it has now been set to High Priority :) Oh, excellent news. :¬) -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/G+/Twitter/Flickr/Facebook: lproven MSN: lpro...@hotmail.com • Skype/AIM/Yahoo/L

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-09-30 Thread Colin Law
On 30 September 2013 15:43, Liam Proven wrote: > On 30 September 2013 11:07, Colin Law wrote: >> It looks like this is the one >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/739184 > > > Colin's right. > > I didn't repost it because it occurs earlier in the thread I was > commentin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-09-30 Thread Liam Proven
On 30 September 2013 11:07, Colin Law wrote: > It looks like this is the one > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/739184 Colin's right. I didn't repost it because it occurs earlier in the thread I was commenting to, you see. That was perhaps in error; I know some mad her

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-09-30 Thread Colin Law
On 30 September 2013 10:52, Andy Whitcroft wrote: > On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 04:18:08PM +0100, Liam Proven wrote: >> On 23 April 2013 18:05, Liam Proven wrote: >> > So I am now running beta 2 of Raring, I guess, and LibreOffice's menus >> > still are completely inaccessible via the keyboard. >> >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-09-30 Thread Andy Whitcroft
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 04:18:08PM +0100, Liam Proven wrote: > On 23 April 2013 18:05, Liam Proven wrote: > > So I am now running beta 2 of Raring, I guess, and LibreOffice's menus > > still are completely inaccessible via the keyboard. > > > > This is a really serious problem. It renders the enti

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-09-25 Thread Colin Law
On 25 September 2013 21:18, Liam Proven wrote: > On 25 September 2013 20:45, Colin Law wrote: >> >> That is your decision of course. However it does mean that your >> initial statement "LibreOffice's menus still are completely >> inaccessible via the keyboard" is, arguably, not strictly correct,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-09-25 Thread Liam Proven
On 25 September 2013 20:45, Colin Law wrote: > > That is your decision of course. However it does mean that your > initial statement "LibreOffice's menus still are completely > inaccessible via the keyboard" is, arguably, not strictly correct, in > the sense that the menu actions are accessible v

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-09-25 Thread Colin Law
On 25 September 2013 18:41, Liam Proven wrote: > On 25 September 2013 17:22, Colin Law wrote: >> Do you mean beta of Saucy? Does the HUD work for you? To open a file >> hit Alt then op and Enter. I find it much easier than menus via the >> keyboard. > > > I don't use the HUD, at all, ever, in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-09-25 Thread Liam Proven
On 25 September 2013 17:22, Colin Law wrote: > Do you mean beta of Saucy? Does the HUD work for you? To open a file > hit Alt then op and Enter. I find it much easier than menus via the > keyboard. I don't use the HUD, at all, ever, in any app. So whether the HUD works or not is immaterial to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-09-25 Thread Colin Law
On 23 April 2013 18:05, Liam Proven wrote: > So I am now running beta 2 of Raring, I guess, and LibreOffice's menus > still are completely inaccessible via the keyboard. Do you mean beta of Saucy? Does the HUD work for you? To open a file hit Alt then op and Enter. I find it much easier than m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-09-25 Thread Liam Proven
On 25 September 2013 16:30, Alan Pope wrote: > > Seems there's a workaround in the bug, to uninstall libreoffice-gtk > which makes it work, but makes Libreoffice pretty ugly in the process. This is true, yes. It's what I did on Precise & Raring. Since then, on my desktop I switched to Mac OS X a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-09-25 Thread Alan Pope
On 25 September 2013 16:18, Liam Proven wrote: > Quick update. I think that 13.10 is now in the beta stage - is that correct? > > This serious bug is /still/ present, 6mth later. > > Mind you, it has been since 11.04, I think, so perhaps I am foolish to > expect to be able to control Ubuntu's offi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-09-25 Thread Liam Proven
On 23 April 2013 18:05, Liam Proven wrote: > So I am now running beta 2 of Raring, I guess, and LibreOffice's menus > still are completely inaccessible via the keyboard. > > This is a really serious problem. It renders the entire suite unusable for me. > > Is there any official way to draw more at

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-04-24 Thread Alan Pope
On 24/04/13 14:20, Liam Proven wrote: OK, I've looked through those 2 bugs. I can't see a PPA listed and I don't know what an SRU update is, I'm afraid. SRUs are Stable Release Updates. The bug fixes you get post-release. There are rigorous procedures in place for SRUs that don't apply when

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-04-24 Thread Liam Proven
On 23 April 2013 18:56, Nicholas Skaggs wrote: > I thought this was fixed, but see these couple bugs: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/739184 > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1085169 > > If you can confirm the new version linked (in a ppa,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-04-24 Thread Liam Proven
On 23 April 2013 18:56, Nicholas Skaggs wrote: > I thought this was fixed, but see these couple bugs: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/739184 > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1085169 I was already subscribed to both. This is a long-standin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-04-23 Thread Liam Proven
On 23 April 2013 21:40, Colin Law wrote: > On 23 April 2013 18:56, Nicholas Skaggs wrote: >> I thought this was fixed, but see these couple bugs: >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/739184 >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1085169 > > There

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-04-23 Thread Liam Proven
On 23 April 2013 18:26, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hi, > > well that provoked a 'wtf' from the head of quality / testing. He is filing > a bug. As you correctly state, this is an issue. I will post up the bug > number once Nicholas has raised it. Please log onto to the system and click > on the "aff

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-04-23 Thread Colin Law
On 23 April 2013 18:56, Nicholas Skaggs wrote: > I thought this was fixed, but see these couple bugs: > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/739184 > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1085169 There is also https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-04-23 Thread Phill Whiteside
I do not use libreoffice but for your advice... (18:10:22) balloons: tea time.. irish tea, but not milk.. don't hurt me! > (18:11:22) phillw: slip a shot of whisky into it :) > (18:11:25) phillw: So I am now running beta 2 of Raring, I guess, and > LibreOffice's menus > (18:11:25) phillw: still a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-04-23 Thread Colin Law
On 23 April 2013 18:26, Phill Whiteside wrote: > Hi, > > well that provoked a 'wtf' from the head of quality / testing. He is filing > a bug. As you correctly state, this is an issue. I will post up the bug > number once Nicholas has raised it. Please log onto to the system and click > on the "aff

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-04-23 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
I thought this was fixed, but see these couple bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/739184 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1085169 If you can confirm the new version linked (in a ppa, from bug reports) is working for you, you can help the d

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-04-23 Thread Phill Whiteside
Hi, well that provoked a 'wtf' from the head of quality / testing. He is filing a bug. As you correctly state, this is an issue. I will post up the bug number once Nicholas has raised it. Please log onto to the system and click on the "affects me" portion to receive updates on its progress. Regar

[ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice menu problem remains

2013-04-23 Thread Liam Proven
So I am now running beta 2 of Raring, I guess, and LibreOffice's menus still are completely inaccessible via the keyboard. This is a really serious problem. It renders the entire suite unusable for me. Is there any official way to draw more attention to this really quite critical bug? -- Liam Pr

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice 3.6 calc landscape

2012-10-14 Thread Mark Fraser
On Sunday 14 Oct 2012 10:19:14 Tony Pursell wrote: > Hi Mark > > On 14 October 2012 09:49, Mark Fraser wrote: > > Tried creating a spreadsheet in calc last night and wanted it printed in > > landscape, but when I went to Format > Page, the only tabs were: > > Organiser, Header (right), Header (le

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice 3.6 calc landscape

2012-10-14 Thread Tony Pursell
Hi Mark On 14 October 2012 09:49, Mark Fraser wrote: > Tried creating a spreadsheet in calc last night and wanted it printed in > landscape, but when I went to Format > Page, the only tabs were: > Organiser, Header (right), Header (left), Footer (right), Footer (left) > Clicking on any of these

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice 3.6 calc landscape

2012-10-14 Thread Mark Fraser
On Sunday 14 Oct 2012 09:57:41 Colin Law wrote: > On 14 October 2012 09:49, Mark Fraser wrote: > > Tried creating a spreadsheet in calc last night and wanted it printed in > > landscape, but when I went to Format > Page, the only tabs were: > > Organiser, Header (right), Header (left), Footer (rig

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice 3.6 calc landscape

2012-10-14 Thread Colin Law
On 14 October 2012 09:49, Mark Fraser wrote: > Tried creating a spreadsheet in calc last night and wanted it printed in > landscape, but when I went to Format > Page, the only tabs were: > Organiser, Header (right), Header (left), Footer (right), Footer (left) > Clicking on any of these caused Lib

[ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice 3.6 calc landscape

2012-10-14 Thread Mark Fraser
Tried creating a spreadsheet in calc last night and wanted it printed in landscape, but when I went to Format > Page, the only tabs were: Organiser, Header (right), Header (left), Footer (right), Footer (left) Clicking on any of these caused Libreoffice to crash. Tried searching on Google, but co

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice Writer landscape print failure ....

2012-09-01 Thread Barry Drake
On 01/09/12 20:30, David King wrote: Your other option is to print to PDF using the PDF button in Writer (or print to PDF via Print option if you prefer) and then, if the PDF came out okay, print that to the printer. But if the PDF file comes out bad as well, then it is a bug in LibreOffice.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice Writer landscape print failure ....

2012-09-01 Thread David King
On 30/08/12 21:17, Barry Drake wrote: Hi Guys . Anyone care to check this out? I reported a bug a while back, but it is as yet unconfirmed. I just burned a cd of today's 12.10 image to check it out. Boot from the latest image. Open LibreOffice Writer. Print a page in landscape format.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice Writer landscape print failure ....

2012-09-01 Thread Barry Drake
On 01/09/12 15:02, Colin Law wrote: Does Gutenprint support it? [1]. I don't think you have told us what model it is. Colin [1] http://gimp-print.sourceforge.net/p_Supported_Printers.php No unfortunately. It's a DCP135C and seems only to be supported by the drivers on the Brother site. I h

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice Writer landscape print failure ....

2012-09-01 Thread Colin Law
On 1 September 2012 14:58, Barry Drake wrote: > On 31/08/12 16:14, Stuart Ward wrote: >> >> I suggest looking for a CUPS driver, in my experience the CUPS drivers are >> generally of a better quality than the manufacturers one. > > > I've been looking around - and am now more confused than ever!

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice Writer landscape print failure ....

2012-09-01 Thread Barry Drake
On 31/08/12 16:14, Stuart Ward wrote: I suggest looking for a CUPS driver, in my experience the CUPS drivers are generally of a better quality than the manufacturers one. I've been looking around - and am now more confused than ever! I think if I can find a CUPS driver, I may be able to use m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice Writer landscape print failure ....

2012-08-31 Thread Stuart Ward
I suggest looking for a CUPS driver, in my experience the CUPS drivers are generally of a better quality than the manufacturers one. Stuart -- Stuart Ward M +44 7782325143 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice Writer landscape print failure ....

2012-08-31 Thread Barry Drake
On 30/08/12 22:11, Colin Law wrote: No need to answer the questions. It is working ok for me on Quantal with the same libreoffice version as in the bug. Perhaps a printer driver problem? Thanks Colin. Sounds as though it has to be a printer driver problem. I'll contact Brother as it's a pr

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice Writer landscape print failure ....

2012-08-30 Thread Colin Law
On 30 August 2012 21:55, Colin Law wrote: > On 30 August 2012 21:38, Colin Law wrote: >> On 30 August 2012 21:17, Barry Drake wrote: >>> Hi Guys . Anyone care to check this out? I reported a bug a while >>> back, but it is as yet unconfirmed. I just burned a cd of today's 12.10 >>> image

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice Writer landscape print failure ....

2012-08-30 Thread Colin Law
On 30 August 2012 21:38, Colin Law wrote: > On 30 August 2012 21:17, Barry Drake wrote: >> Hi Guys . Anyone care to check this out? I reported a bug a while >> back, but it is as yet unconfirmed. I just burned a cd of today's 12.10 >> image to check it out. Boot from the latest image. Ope

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice Writer landscape print failure ....

2012-08-30 Thread Colin Law
On 30 August 2012 21:17, Barry Drake wrote: > Hi Guys . Anyone care to check this out? I reported a bug a while > back, but it is as yet unconfirmed. I just burned a cd of today's 12.10 > image to check it out. Boot from the latest image. Open LibreOffice Writer. > Print a page in landscap

[ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice Writer landscape print failure ....

2012-08-30 Thread Barry Drake
Hi Guys . Anyone care to check this out? I reported a bug a while back, but it is as yet unconfirmed. I just burned a cd of today's 12.10 image to check it out. Boot from the latest image. Open LibreOffice Writer. Print a page in landscape format. I simple wrote one long line of text.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libreoffice pdf import extension .....

2012-08-20 Thread Barry Drake
On 20/08/12 09:25, Colin Law wrote: Hmm, odd. That suggests a problem with removing and reinstalling LibreOffice that needs to be addressed. Logically, removing LibreOffice and the .libreoffice folder and then reinstalling should reset your LibreOffice install. You shouldn't have to reinstall you

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libreoffice pdf import extension .....

2012-08-20 Thread Colin Law
On 19 August 2012 22:13, Simon Greenwood wrote: > > > On 19 August 2012 22:01, Barry Drake wrote: >> >> On 18/08/12 19:35, Simon Greenwood wrote: >>> >>> All the user config is in .libreoffice in your $HOME and I think deleting >>> .libreoffice/3/user/extensions resets the plugin config. >> >> >>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libreoffice pdf import extension .....

2012-08-19 Thread Matt Wheeler
On 19 August 2012 22:13, Simon Greenwood wrote: > Hmm, odd. That suggests a problem with removing and reinstalling LibreOffice > that needs to be addressed. Logically, removing LibreOffice and the > .libreoffice folder and then reinstalling should reset your LibreOffice > install. You shouldn't ha

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libreoffice pdf import extension .....

2012-08-19 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 19 August 2012 22:01, Barry Drake wrote: > On 18/08/12 19:35, Simon Greenwood wrote: > >> All the user config is in .libreoffice in your $HOME and I think deleting >> .libreoffice/3/user/extensions resets the plugin config. >> > > I removed all files and folders containing 'libreoffice' thinki

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libreoffice pdf import extension .....

2012-08-19 Thread Barry Drake
On 18/08/12 19:35, Simon Greenwood wrote: All the user config is in .libreoffice in your $HOME and I think deleting .libreoffice/3/user/extensions resets the plugin config. I removed all files and folders containing 'libreoffice' thinking I could simply re-install. Unfortunately the re-instal

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Libreoffice pdf import extension .....

2012-08-18 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 18 August 2012 15:52, Barry Drake wrote: > Hi there . I downloaded and ran a pdf import extension called > oracle-pdfimport. It has completely clobbered all of Libreoffice running > under Quantal. I guess it was intended for OpenOffice. I've tried > completely removing all of Libreoffi

[ubuntu-uk] Libreoffice pdf import extension .....

2012-08-18 Thread Barry Drake
Hi there . I downloaded and ran a pdf import extension called oracle-pdfimport. It has completely clobbered all of Libreoffice running under Quantal. I guess it was intended for OpenOffice. I've tried completely removing all of Libreoffice and re-installing, but get no success. If I ru

Re: [ubuntu-uk] libreoffice

2012-03-26 Thread John Oliver
Quite right; I meant the files, not the whole folder. On 27/03/12 07:40, Neil Greenwood wrote: Just to correct the assertion below: /tmp is writable for all users, typically files downloaded there might have their permissions set to read-only though. Sorry I can't help with the original ques

Re: [ubuntu-uk] libreoffice

2012-03-26 Thread Neil Greenwood
Just to correct the assertion below: /tmp is writable for all users, typically files downloaded there might have their permissions set to read-only though. Sorry I can't help with the original question! Neil. P.S. Sorry for the brevity, this is typed on my phone. On Mar 26, 2012 6:56 PM, "John O

Re: [ubuntu-uk] libreoffice

2012-03-26 Thread John Oliver
I opened the file, and when I clicked on the Edit button, it demanded a password. Instead, I saved it as an ODT and it then allowed me to edit the document fully, with no other problems. It may be that the document actually uses Word macros, which do not work with LibreOffice properly. Try con

Re: [ubuntu-uk] libreoffice

2012-03-26 Thread paul sutton
On 26/03/12 18:55, John Oliver wrote: > There is a little button that looks like a document with a pencil on it about > 5 icons to the right of the new document button. (Called Edit Document). > Pressing it will make a copy of the file and open it for editing. > > The usual reason for this is a f

Re: [ubuntu-uk] libreoffice

2012-03-26 Thread John Oliver
There is a little button that looks like a document with a pencil on it about 5 icons to the right of the new document button. (Called Edit Document). Pressing it will make a copy of the file and open it for editing. The usual reason for this is a file is downloaded from the Internet to the /tmp

[ubuntu-uk] libreoffice

2012-03-26 Thread paul sutton
Hi I am trying to fill in an application form sent to me in docx format, I have saved as odf otherwise editing saving and reopening a docx file results in seriously messed up file. I have a table for work history etc, which when i try and edit I get things like read only content, modified conte

Re: [ubuntu-uk] libreoffice - writer

2011-12-09 Thread Norman Silverstone
> > === snip > > 2. Is there a Welsh dictionary available so that it is possible to > > produce documents in Welsh without lots of words being underlined in red > > and spelling can be checked? > > I think what you are looking for is here > http://libreplanet.or

Re: [ubuntu-uk] libreoffice - writer

2011-12-08 Thread Bob Giles
On 08/12/11 20:58, Norman Silverstone wrote: === snip 2. Is there a Welsh dictionary available so that it is possible to produce documents in Welsh without lots of words being underlined in red and spelling can be checked? Norman, I think what you are looking

Re: [ubuntu-uk] libreoffice - writer

2011-12-08 Thread Tony Pursell
On 8 December 2011 21:15, Gareth France wrote: > Does this help? > > http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/955 > > > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Neil Greenwood < > neil.greenwood@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 08.12.11 18:58, Norman Silverstone wrote: >> > I am encouraging a Windows Office use

Re: [ubuntu-uk] libreoffice - writer

2011-12-08 Thread Gareth France
Does this help? http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/955 On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 9:11 PM, Neil Greenwood wrote: > On 08.12.11 18:58, Norman Silverstone wrote: > > I am encouraging a Windows Office user to change to LibreOffice within > > Ubuntu 11.10. > > [snip] > > 2. Is there a Welsh dictionar

Re: [ubuntu-uk] libreoffice - writer

2011-12-08 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 08.12.11 18:58, Norman Silverstone wrote: > I am encouraging a Windows Office user to change to LibreOffice within > Ubuntu 11.10. > [snip] > 2. Is there a Welsh dictionary available so that it is possible to > produce documents in Welsh without lots of words being underlined in red > and spelli

Re: [ubuntu-uk] libreoffice - writer

2011-12-08 Thread Gareth France
I don't think you can minimise the document alone. A seperate instance is loaded for each document so you minimise the application as a whole leaving any other libre office instances maximised. On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Norman Silverstone wrote: > I am encouraging a Windows Office user to

[ubuntu-uk] libreoffice - writer

2011-12-08 Thread Norman Silverstone
I am encouraging a Windows Office user to change to LibreOffice within Ubuntu 11.10. This person has raised 2 questions that I am unable to answer and I would welcome advise, please. 1. How does one minimise the document only without minimising the application? 2. Is there a Welsh dictionary avai

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-24 Thread Bruno Girin
On Mon, 2011-02-21 at 23:39 +, Avi wrote: > Bruno Girin wrote: > > > > There are plans to change this from 11.04 forward so that new software > > or new versions of existing software (like Firefox 4) can be included > > without having to manually add a PPA. > > > > Really? I thought PPA's we

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-22 Thread Liam Gallear
On 22 Feb 2011, at 17:55, Dave Morley wrote: > On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 17:00 +, Alan Lord (News) wrote: >> On 20/02/11 13:54, Liam Proven wrote: >>> >>> The following, although it may seem petter, isn't. It's important. I >>> don't want to seem ungrateful but it's kind of a big deal. >> >>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-22 Thread Dave Morley
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 17:00 +, Alan Lord (News) wrote: > On 20/02/11 13:54, Liam Proven wrote: > > > > The following, although it may seem petter, isn't. It's important. I > > don't want to seem ungrateful but it's kind of a big deal. > > For you it maybe. For many others I doubt it very much.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-22 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 20/02/11 13:54, Liam Proven wrote: The following, although it may seem petter, isn't. It's important. I don't want to seem ungrateful but it's kind of a big deal. For you it maybe. For many others I doubt it very much. *Please*, do not use that bulletin-board style "@Liam" thing again, to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-22 Thread Michael Douglas
On 22 Feb 2011 16:28, "Alan Lord (News)" wrote: > > Wow! > > Hassan, if you are replying to several people in one message then using @soandso is fine by me. :-) > > I do not think we need to be so prescriptive as to require rules about the syntax of how to reply. > > It's the same as top or bottom

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-22 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 22/02/11 15:26, Hassan "Haz" Williamson wrote: On 20 February 2011 13:54, Liam Proven mailto:lpro...@gmail.com>> wrote: *Please*, do not use that bulletin-board style "@Liam" thing again, to anyone on any mailing list. I missed your message because it wasn't threaded as a response

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-22 Thread Hassan "Haz" Williamson
On 20 February 2011 13:54, Liam Proven wrote: > > *Please*, do not use that bulletin-board style "@Liam" thing again, to > anyone on any mailing list. I missed your message because it wasn't > threaded as a response to me. > > My sincerest apologies, I shall avoid doing so in future. I've been try

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-21 Thread Avi
Bruno Girin wrote: > > There are plans to change this from 11.04 forward so that new software > or new versions of existing software (like Firefox 4) can be included > without having to manually add a PPA. > Really? I thought PPA's were a reasonably elegant way of 'fixing' stability. Have you li

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-20 Thread Liam Proven
On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 6:05 AM, Hassan "Haz" Williamson wrote: > @Liam, You could have saved yourself some heart ache by just installing > LibreOffice with the PPA. Thanks for the tip, I shall look into it. I don't recall how I installed LO on my desktop, but I don't see any repos for LO in my s

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-20 Thread Bruno Girin
On Sun, 2011-02-20 at 11:37 +, Simon Greenwood wrote: > Is there anything significant preventing LO being put into the > Ubuntu Software Centre? When LO gets into Ubuntu as it will, > in 11.04, I will certainly use it, but my tech experience > level is not real

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-20 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 20 February 2011 10:30, alan c wrote: > On 19/02/11 06:05, Hassan "Haz" Williamson wrote: > >> @Mac, Thanks for that. Interesting read. Personally I'm going where the >> developers are, I have a feeling that Oracle might try to swing things to >> their favour and might close down some aspects

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-20 Thread alan c
On 19/02/11 06:05, Hassan "Haz" Williamson wrote: @Mac, Thanks for that. Interesting read. Personally I'm going where the developers are, I have a feeling that Oracle might try to swing things to their favour and might close down some aspects of OOo - either that or try to incorporate their own p

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-19 Thread mac
On 19/02/2011 13:16, Sean Miller wrote: Having worked with Oracle for 22 years I think I perhaps have less distrust of Larry Ellison's company than some Oh, I don't distrust them. On the contrary, I trust them to do what they do very well: invent ways of making money. In the case of OOo, t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-19 Thread Sean Miller
On 19 February 2011 07:00, mac wrote: > On 19/02/2011 06:05, Hassan "Haz" Williamson wrote: > >> @Mac, Thanks for that. Interesting read. Personally I'm going where the >> developers are, I have a feeling that Oracle might try to swing things to >> their favour and might close down some aspects o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-19 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 19/02/11 10:26, Neil Greenwood wrote: On 19 Feb 2011, at 08:59, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 19/02/11 06:05, Hassan "Haz" Williamson wrote: @Liam, You could have saved yourself some heart ache by just installing LibreOffice with the PPA. The one MAJOR problem with doing it that way

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-19 Thread Neil Greenwood
On 19 Feb 2011, at 08:59, Gordon Burgess-Parker wrote: On 19/02/11 06:05, Hassan "Haz" Williamson wrote: @Liam, You could have saved yourself some heart ache by just installing LibreOffice with the PPA. The one MAJOR problem with doing it that way is if you don't use Evolution for ema

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-19 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 19/02/11 06:05, Hassan "Haz" Williamson wrote: @Liam, You could have saved yourself some heart ache by just installing LibreOffice with the PPA. The one MAJOR problem with doing it that way is if you don't use Evolution for email. The ppa version will NOT use any other address book as a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-19 Thread Paul Sutton
I really don't understand why the one on the LibreOffice website is so complicated to try and get it to work. It might scare some people away from using it, which would be a shame. I'm sure they'll make it easier as time passes though. e-mail them and say it looks complex and why, they a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-18 Thread mac
On 19/02/2011 06:05, Hassan "Haz" Williamson wrote: @Mac, Thanks for that. Interesting read. Personally I'm going where the developers are, I have a feeling that Oracle might try to swing things to their favour and might close down some aspects of OOo - either that or try to incorporate their own

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-18 Thread Hassan "Haz" Williamson
@Mac, Thanks for that. Interesting read. Personally I'm going where the developers are, I have a feeling that Oracle might try to swing things to their favour and might close down some aspects of OOo - either that or try to incorporate their own proprietary database system in somehow. I could be wr

Re: [ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-18 Thread Liam Proven
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 6:44 AM, mac wrote: > Just to follow up the recent thread - I guess some but not all of us may > have come across this: > > http://www.infoworld.com/d/applications/open-office-dilemma-openofficeorg-vs-libreoffice-716 Interesting - thanks for that. I have LibreOffice 3.3 r

[ubuntu-uk] LibreOffice vs OpenOffice

2011-02-16 Thread mac
Just to follow up the recent thread - I guess some but not all of us may have come across this: http://www.infoworld.com/d/applications/open-office-dilemma-openofficeorg-vs-libreoffice-716 mac -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubun