Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-07 Thread James Tait
On 06/11/14 21:01, Barry Drake wrote: > On 05/11/14 15:22, Bill B. wrote: >> We also need to [always], whether we know the answer or not ask >> one question when dealing with "big companies". "Does in work >> with Linux"? > > Our local PCWorld has a policy (official) that staff must say: "We >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-07 Thread Gareth France
The only way you can "try" to make a point is either by: 1. Buying a machine from somewhere that sells then sans OS or with Linux. 2. Attempting to get a refund for the "Microsoft Tax"... I have done as suggested above and attempted my refund. I was told they would not do this as I should ha

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-07 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 07/11/14 02:21, Kris Douglas wrote: I must say HP printers are cracking! Kindest Regards, Kris Douglas I agree. My HP 5525 works perfectly on Ubuntu 14.04 - there's no function that doesn't work as far as I can see! Cheers Gordon -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-06 Thread Kris Douglas
On 7 Nov 2014 01:00, "Pete Smout" wrote: > > > On Nov 6, 2014 11:39 PM, "Stuart Ward" wrote: > > > > > > On 6 November 2014 21:24, Paul Sutton wrote: > >> > >> Apart from Android devices, and maybe chomebooks > > > > > > And routers, TVs, set top boxes, cameras, car stereos, washing machines, d

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-06 Thread Pete Smout
On Nov 6, 2014 11:39 PM, "Stuart Ward" wrote: > > > On 6 November 2014 21:24, Paul Sutton wrote: >> >> Apart from Android devices, and maybe chomebooks > > > And routers, TVs, set top boxes, cameras, car stereos, washing machines, dishwashers... Car stereos, Windows 8, adobe Photoshop. Pet

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-06 Thread Stuart Ward
On 6 November 2014 21:24, Paul Sutton wrote: > Apart from Android devices, and maybe chomebooks > And routers, TVs, set top boxes, cameras, car stereos, washing machines, dishwashers... -- Stuart Ward M +44 7782325143 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-06 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 06/11/14 21:01, Barry Drake wrote: > On 05/11/14 15:22, Bill B. wrote: >> We also need to [always], whether we know the answer or not ask >> one question when dealing with "big companies". "Does in work >> with Linux"? > > Our local PCWorld has a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-06 Thread Barry Drake
On 05/11/14 15:22, Bill B. wrote: We also need to [always], whether we know the answer or not ask one question when dealing with "big companies". "Does in work with Linux"? Our local PCWorld has a policy (official) that staff must say: "We don't support Linux". I complained to head office and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-05 Thread Bill B.
On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 11:42 +, Paul Sutton wrote: > What we need to know before that is that the hardware works with Linux > so having a live cd to hand ti test, id any internal components and > then cross reference those to databases of Linux friendly hardware. We also need to [always], wheth

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-05 Thread Simon Greenwood
> > >> Thanks >> > > Don't System 76 ship to the UK now? > https://system76.com/ > They do but you would still get hit by customs charges if you import one and they are the same Clevo laptops that PC Specialist sell which you can buy without an OS and use the System76 drivers on. s/ > > -- Twi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-05 Thread Gordon Burgess-Parker
On 03/11/14 12:57, Gareth France wrote: I firmly believe part of the problem with Linux adoption is that we all go out, buy Windows machines and then wipe them. This sends out the message to manufacturers that we want Windows on our machines and so the cycle continues. I'm looking to purchas

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-05 Thread Paul Sutton
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/11/14 17:59, Gareth France wrote: > I understand exactly what you mean and to be honest even if I got > a Ubuntu preinstall on a machine I would most likely swap hard > drives and use this install I'm using now or wipe and reinstall to > my sta

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-04 Thread Gareth France
I understand exactly what you mean and to be honest even if I got a Ubuntu preinstall on a machine I would most likely swap hard drives and use this install I'm using now or wipe and reinstall to my standard. I'm not expecting to find some sort of Linux holy grail out there I just resent the id

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-04 Thread TT Mooney
Guys -- Just FYI, like a lot of other people, I bought a Dell with Ubuntu pre-loaded. In my case, it's the Sputnik 3 (XPS 13 9333) 'Enterprise' with HD5000 graphics. It shipped with a Dell-approved build of 12.04, which worked well enough, but had a funky boot process during which it was pretty m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-04 Thread Gareth France
Now this I like! I shall be attempting to get a refund for windows in the near future I think. On 04/11/14 17:17, Alan Lord (News) wrote: On 04/11/14 15:54, Liam Proven wrote: On 4 November 2014 16:42, Gareth France wrote: Thanks. I've seen what I'd like but it's in PC world. I really don't

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-04 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 04/11/14 15:54, Liam Proven wrote: On 4 November 2014 16:42, Gareth France wrote: Thanks. I've seen what I'd like but it's in PC world. I really don't think I can make a purchase if it is effectively an endorsement of Windows 8! I'm sure there must be another way. The real reason doesn't g

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-04 Thread Liam Proven
On 4 November 2014 16:42, Gareth France wrote: > Thanks. I've seen what I'd like but it's in PC world. I really don't think I > can make a purchase if it is effectively an endorsement of Windows 8! I'm > sure there must be another way. The real reason doesn't get talked about much. It costs mone

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-04 Thread Gareth France
Thanks. I've seen what I'd like but it's in PC world. I really don't think I can make a purchase if it is effectively an endorsement of Windows 8! I'm sure there must be another way. On 04/11/14 15:39, Liam Proven wrote: On 3 November 2014 13:57, Gareth France wrote: I firmly believe part of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-04 Thread Liam Proven
On 3 November 2014 13:57, Gareth France wrote: > I firmly believe part of the problem with Linux adoption is that we all go > out, buy Windows machines and then wipe them. This sends out the message to > manufacturers that we want Windows on our machines and so the cycle > continues. > > I'm looki

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-03 Thread gareth . france
It's not about having it installed so much as knowing the supplier knows that is my preference. So that company sounds good. On Mon, November 3, 2014 1:53 pm, Barry Drake wrote: > On 03/11/14 13:10, Simon Greenwood wrote: > >> pcspecialist.co.uk give you the option to >>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-03 Thread Barry Drake
On 03/11/14 13:10, Simon Greenwood wrote: pcspecialist.co.uk give you the option to configure a machine without having Windows installed (and knock the price of the licence off on the config form, as do several other UK custom builders. Cougar Extreme is the only o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-03 Thread Simon Greenwood
pcspecialist.co.uk give you the option to configure a machine without having Windows installed (and knock the price of the licence off on the config form, as do several other UK custom builders. s/ On 3 November 2014 12:57, Gareth France wrote: > I firmly believe part of the problem with Linux

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-03 Thread Gareth France
eorge] -Original Message- From: Gareth France Sent: Monday, 03 November, 2014 12:57 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop I firmly believe part of the problem with Linux adoption is that we all go out, buy Windows machines and then wipe them. This sends out the messa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-03 Thread George DiceGeorge
Novatech, Portsmouth UK http://www.novatech.co.uk I bought this machine there. [george] -Original Message- From: Gareth France Sent: Monday, 03 November, 2014 12:57 To: UK Ubuntu Talk Subject: [ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop I firmly believe part of the problem with Linux adoption is

[ubuntu-uk] Choice of laptop

2014-11-03 Thread Gareth France
I firmly believe part of the problem with Linux adoption is that we all go out, buy Windows machines and then wipe them. This sends out the message to manufacturers that we want Windows on our machines and so the cycle continues. I'm looking to purchase a laptop shortly and would much prefer t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] choice of laptop

2008-06-04 Thread Mac
Matt Jones wrote: > Thats the disadvantage of a website, you can't haggle with it. Generally the > best deals are to be had when adding upgrades, as this is where the margin > is. > The base spec ones are in most cases loss leaders, this is why Dell heavily > pushes upgrades as well as warranty

Re: [ubuntu-uk] choice of laptop

2008-06-04 Thread Matt Jones
Mac wrote: LeeGroups wrote: Argh! I just ordered a Vostro for my dad from Dells website... Clicked the confirm order button, then switched back to Thunderbird and read these mails... Don't you just hate it when that happens... Snap! I'd just ordered an Inspiron 1525 wi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] choice of laptop

2008-06-04 Thread Mac
LeeGroups wrote: > Argh! I just ordered a Vostro for my dad from Dells website... > Clicked the confirm order button, then switched back to Thunderbird and > read these mails... > Don't you just hate it when that happens... Snap! I'd just ordered an Inspiron 1525 with Gutsy (for my wife). Rats!

Re: [ubuntu-uk] choice of laptop

2008-06-04 Thread LeeGroups
Kris Douglas wrote: > On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:25 PM, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> Ring dell up to order it, you can usually wangle a bit off, although >>> this has been for business ones. >>> >>> >> Noted with thanks. >> >> Norman >> > > Indeed, I got my 6400 upgraded t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] choice of laptop

2008-06-04 Thread Kris Douglas
On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 9:25 PM, norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Ring dell up to order it, you can usually wangle a bit off, although >> this has been for business ones. >> > > Noted with thanks. > > Norman Indeed, I got my 6400 upgraded to a nice spec for very little more, they have some go

Re: [ubuntu-uk] choice of laptop

2008-06-04 Thread norman
> Ring dell up to order it, you can usually wangle a bit off, although > this has been for business ones. > Noted with thanks. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] choice of laptop

2008-06-04 Thread Matt Jones
norman wrote: > Thanks folks for your comments which I found of help. I am swayed > towards the Inspiron 1525 because it is supporting Ubuntu. > > Norman > > > Ring dell up to order it, you can usually wangle a bit off, although this has been for business ones. Mj -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] choice of laptop

2008-06-04 Thread norman
Thanks folks for your comments which I found of help. I am swayed towards the Inspiron 1525 because it is supporting Ubuntu. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] choice of laptop

2008-06-04 Thread Andrew Oakley
norman wrote: > router. I am wondering whether the Inspiron 1525 would be a suitable > machine to get and would welcome helpful comment, please. Yes. I have a Dell Inspiron 1520 and am delighted with it. It runs Ubuntu flawlessly and the recent improvements (funded by Dell & Intel) for the Intel

Re: [ubuntu-uk] choice of laptop

2008-06-03 Thread Kris Douglas
On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Matt Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > norman wrote: >> In the fairly near future I expect to have a hip replacement which will >> mean that I will not be able to sit at my desktop computer for several >> weeks. So, I am thinking of getting a laptop computer that I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] choice of laptop

2008-06-03 Thread Matt Jones
norman wrote: > In the fairly near future I expect to have a hip replacement which will > mean that I will not be able to sit at my desktop computer for several > weeks. So, I am thinking of getting a laptop computer that I can use > anywhere around the house until I am allowed to sit on the chair

[ubuntu-uk] choice of laptop

2008-06-03 Thread norman
In the fairly near future I expect to have a hip replacement which will mean that I will not be able to sit at my desktop computer for several weeks. So, I am thinking of getting a laptop computer that I can use anywhere around the house until I am allowed to sit on the chair I normally use. My m