Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

On 27/09/11 12:02, Matthew Daubney wrote: First you need to define what is "required" which was the original question Stuff that makes Ubuntu server a partner specifically to Ubuntu desktop. So random web apps across all platforms that might well be used in a small business isn't really the foc

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

On 27 September 2011 11:38, Dave Morley wrote: > Matt I still think a full blown desktop is a faff.  If you're not in the > office and need to access the box forwarding x over a hotel network is > not going to be fun in any shape or form. Simple question: How many average users do you expect wo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 08:54 +0100, Matthew Daubney wrote: > On 27 September 2011 08:47, Dan Attwood wrote: > >> > >> > Well the main benefit of a web based UI is that you don't need all the > >> > desktop GUI libraries on the server, > >> > >> >Yes, because HDD space is expensive these days! > > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

Juan J. wrote: > Actually the fact Ubuntu has a good reputation as Desktop OS plays > against the distribution in the server arena. > > I've seen it a dozen of times, technical people discarding Ubuntu > Server and using Debian instead without providing a good reason for > that but "it's Ubuntu Se

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

2011/9/27 Juan J. : > We're obviously talking about different users here, but having desktop + > GUI tools by default in Ubuntu Server would be a no-go for the technical > userbase of Ubuntu. > Good, again, we've just ignored the target audience and decided that it's actually aimed at current tec

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 08:48 +0100, Matthew Daubney wrote: > 2011/9/27 Juan J. : > > On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 08:28 +0100, Matthew Daubney wrote: > >> [...] > >> I'd suspect the average person on the end of the phone wouldn't be too > >> scared of being talked through fixing it rather than average blok

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

On 27 September 2011 08:47, Dan Attwood wrote: >> >> > Well the main benefit of a web based UI is that you don't need all the >> > desktop GUI libraries on the server, >> >> >Yes, because HDD space is expensive these days! > >  My understanding is is not about space. Extra libraries means extra at

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

2011/9/27 Juan J. : > On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 08:28 +0100, Matthew Daubney wrote: >> [...] >> I'd suspect the average person on the end of the phone wouldn't be too >> scared of being talked through fixing it rather than average bloke on >> the end of th phone where you say "First go to the server an

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

> > > > Well the main benefit of a web based UI is that you don't need all the > > desktop GUI libraries on the server, > > >Yes, because HDD space is expensive these days! My understanding is is not about space. Extra libraries means extra attack vectors, extra things to update and to go wrong.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 08:28 +0100, Matthew Daubney wrote: > [...] > I'd suspect the average person on the end of the phone wouldn't be too > scared of being talked through fixing it rather than average bloke on > the end of th phone where you say "First go to the server and go to > the console and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

Sorry, this is turning into a big rant about web based admin and having a gui on a small office/home server, but this is something that really really pushes the "GAH" buttons for me. On 26 September 2011 22:18, Bruno Girin wrote: > > Well the main benefit of a web based UI is that you don't ne

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

On 26 September 2011 22:34, Dave Morley wrote: > On 26/09/11 22:18, Bruno Girin wrote: >> >> On 26/09/11 21:35, Matthew Daubney wrote: >>> >>> On 26 September 2011 21:17, Alan Pope  wrote: >>> >>> Ahh, SoHo server... a perennial "want" of many (including myself). >>> >>> I'm getting so annoy

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

On 26 September 2011 22:29, James Thomas wrote: > > On Sep 26, 2011 10:18 PM, "Bruno Girin" wrote: >> >> On 26/09/11 21:35, Matthew Daubney wrote: >>> >>> On 26 September 2011 21:17, Alan Pope  wrote: >>> >>> Ahh, SoHo server... a perennial "want" of many (including myself). >>> >>> I'm get

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

On 26 September 2011 22:18, Bruno Girin wrote: > On 26/09/11 21:35, Matthew Daubney wrote: >> >> On 26 September 2011 21:17, Alan Pope  wrote: >> >> >>> Ahh, SoHo server... a perennial "want" of many (including myself). >> >> I'm getting so annoyed by this being missing it's starting to become an

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

On 26/09/11 22:34, Dave Morley wrote: On 26/09/11 22:18, Bruno Girin wrote: On 26/09/11 21:35, Matthew Daubney wrote: On 26 September 2011 21:17, Alan Pope wrote: Ahh, SoHo server... a perennial "want" of many (including myself). I'm getting so annoyed by this being missing it's starting to

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

On 26/09/11 22:29, James Thomas wrote: On Sep 26, 2011 10:18 PM, "Bruno Girin" > wrote: > > On 26/09/11 21:35, Matthew Daubney wrote: >> >> On 26 September 2011 21:17, Alan Pope> wrote: >> >> >>> Ahh, SoHo server... a perennial "want" of m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

On 26/09/11 22:18, Bruno Girin wrote: On 26/09/11 21:35, Matthew Daubney wrote: On 26 September 2011 21:17, Alan Pope wrote: Ahh, SoHo server... a perennial "want" of many (including myself). I'm getting so annoyed by this being missing it's starting to become an itch :( I'll refer you t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

On Sep 26, 2011 10:18 PM, "Bruno Girin" wrote: > > On 26/09/11 21:35, Matthew Daubney wrote: >> >> On 26 September 2011 21:17, Alan Pope wrote: >> >> >>> Ahh, SoHo server... a perennial "want" of many (including myself). >> >> I'm getting so annoyed by this being missing it's starting to become

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

On 26/09/11 21:35, Matthew Daubney wrote: On 26 September 2011 21:17, Alan Pope wrote: Ahh, SoHo server... a perennial "want" of many (including myself). I'm getting so annoyed by this being missing it's starting to become an itch :( I'll refer you to this spec:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/U

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

On 26 September 2011 21:17, Alan Pope wrote: > Ahh, SoHo server... a perennial "want" of many (including myself). I'm getting so annoyed by this being missing it's starting to become an itch :( > I'll refer you to this spec:- > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEasyBusinessServer Ah, lovely. I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

On 26/09/11 21:17, Alan Pope wrote: Hi Matt! On 26 September 2011 21:09, Matthew Daubney wrote: Anything glaringly obvious I've missed that people would want? Ahh, SoHo server... a perennial "want" of many (including myself). I'll refer you to this spec:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEasyB

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

Hi Matt! On 26 September 2011 21:09, Matthew Daubney wrote: > Anything glaringly obvious I've missed that people would want? > Ahh, SoHo server... a perennial "want" of many (including myself). I'll refer you to this spec:- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEasyBusinessServer Which was drawn up ba

[ubuntu-uk] Home/Small Business Server

So... I've been tinkering with ldap for a few weeks now to get a feel of how it works (and what it does) and keep considering trying to get rid of the hodge podge of bodgy scripts that have cropped up to make things work with it. If such a system was designed, and taking ldap as the base, what fea