Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-18 Thread Darren.Mansell
> -Original Message- > From: ubuntu-uk-boun...@lists.ubuntu.com [mailto:ubuntu-uk- > boun...@lists.ubuntu.com] On Behalf Of Liam Proven > Sent: 16 April 2010 13:49 > To: UK Ubuntu Talk > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-17 Thread Rob Beard
On 16/04/10 14:52, Alan Lord (News) wrote: > On 16/04/10 14:46, David King wrote: >> Western Digital hard drives are not known for reliability. I avoid them >> due to the bad experiences I have read about these drives. > > I have tended toward Samsung (1st choice) or Hitachi (2nd) for HDDs for > ye

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-17 Thread Rob Beard
On 16/04/10 13:38, javadayaz wrote: > the hard drive is only a few months old btw > If it's only a few months old then you can possibly get it replaced under warranty, but you'd need to get the data off it first of course as you'll get a blank drive back. Rob -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com ht

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-17 Thread Rob Beard
On 16/04/10 11:44, Adam Bagnall wrote: > As a true last resort you can try putting the drive in a sealed bag (to > prevent condensation) and then in the freezer for a few hours. A quick > google shows there are many reports of this working, although I've never > tried it and hope I never have to..

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-17 Thread Martin Topping
On Fri, 2010-04-16 at 15:36 +0100, Thomas Ibbotson wrote: > Does anyone know how SSDs compare in terms of lifetime? I know > theoretically they have a shorter lifetime than conventional hard > drives, but in practice? Stuff like this - http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmyths-endurance.html - has le

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread David King
David King wrote: > I have had a Hitachi DeskStar go bad recently. They are even nicknamed > DeathStar due to a high failure rate years ago when the brand was still > owned by IBM. > > Samsung drives have so far been good for me. > > > david > > > Sorry, I was looking at the wrong drive, it

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread John Stevenson
On 16 April 2010 15:26, David King wrote: > > > Alan Lord (News) wrote: > > > > I have tended toward Samsung (1st choice) or Hitachi (2nd) for HDDs for > > years now. Not had one every fail - yet. (But I still take nightly > backups) > > > > Al > > > > > I have had a Hitachi DeskStar go bad recen

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Adam Bagnall
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Thomas Ibbotson wrote: > On 16 April 2010 15:26, David King wrote: > > Alan Lord (News) wrote: > >> > >> I have tended toward Samsung (1st choice) or Hitachi (2nd) for HDDs for > >> years now. Not had one every fail - yet. (But I still take nightly > backups) > >>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Thomas Ibbotson
On 16 April 2010 15:26, David King wrote: > Alan Lord (News) wrote: >> >> I have tended toward Samsung (1st choice) or Hitachi (2nd) for HDDs for >> years now. Not had one every fail - yet. (But I still take nightly backups) >> >> Al >> >> > I have had a Hitachi DeskStar go bad recently. They are

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread David King
Alan Lord (News) wrote: > > I have tended toward Samsung (1st choice) or Hitachi (2nd) for HDDs for > years now. Not had one every fail - yet. (But I still take nightly backups) > > Al > > I have had a Hitachi DeskStar go bad recently. They are even nicknamed DeathStar due to a high failure

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Alan Lord (News)
On 16/04/10 14:46, David King wrote: > Western Digital hard drives are not known for reliability. I avoid them > due to the bad experiences I have read about these drives. I have tended toward Samsung (1st choice) or Hitachi (2nd) for HDDs for years now. Not had one every fail - yet. (But I still

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread David King
javadayaz wrote: > the hard drive is only a few months old btw > > Western Digital hard drives are not known for reliability. I avoid them due to the bad experiences I have read about these drives. David -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread David King
Adam Bagnall wrote: > As a true last resort you can try putting the drive in a sealed bag > (to prevent condensation) and then in the freezer for a few hours. A > quick google shows there are many reports of this working, although > I've never tried it and hope I never have to... > > Regards,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Liam Proven
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 1:38 PM, javadayaz wrote: > the hard drive is only a few months old btw Please try to put your replies /below/ the text you're quoting. Does your brother tend to treat his disks roughly? That kind of failure rate implies it's the user, not the hardware. Hard disks are ul

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
the hard drive is only a few months old btw On 16 April 2010 13:30, Alan Pope wrote: > On 16 April 2010 13:19, javadayaz wrote: > > quote : "The problem is that testdisk cant find any partitions at all.. > or > > even read any data off it" > > > > Unlikely to be the mbr then. More likely the ci

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
thank you again. will forward your advice. On 16 April 2010 13:30, Alan Pope wrote: > On 16 April 2010 13:19, javadayaz wrote: > > quote : "The problem is that testdisk cant find any partitions at all.. > or > > even read any data off it" > > > > Unlikely to be the mbr then. More likely the cir

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 April 2010 13:19, javadayaz wrote: > quote : "The problem is that testdisk cant find any partitions at all.. or > even read any data off it" > Unlikely to be the mbr then. More likely the circuitry, controller on the motherboard or disk itself. All of which are hardware issues. if it were m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
quote : "The problem is that testdisk cant find any partitions at all.. or even read any data off it" On 16 April 2010 13:00, Alan Pope wrote: > On 16 April 2010 12:54, javadayaz wrote: > > Quote my brother: > > "I don't think it's a sector issue because its practically impossible > for > > ev

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
thank you...i will forward this to him On 16 April 2010 13:00, Alan Pope wrote: > On 16 April 2010 12:54, javadayaz wrote: > > Quote my brother: > > "I don't think it's a sector issue because its practically impossible > for > > every sector to have become corrupt overnight. Rather, I think th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 April 2010 12:54, javadayaz wrote: > Quote my brother: >  "I don't think it's a sector issue because its practically impossible for > every sector to have become corrupt overnight. Rather, I think the mbr may > have got corrupted somehow and needs to be rebuilt but that wud need to wipe > th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
Quote my brother: "I don't think it's a sector issue because its practically impossible for every sector to have become corrupt overnight. Rather, I think the mbr may have got corrupted somehow and needs to be rebuilt but that wud need to wipe the whole thing. Is there a recover utility that coul

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Dan Attwood
I've done the freezer trick before on a failing hard drive and it does work. I found it best to wrap the drive up and give it half an hour in the freezer and then when you take it out balance it circuit board down on a pack of frozen sausages to keep it cooler for longer. However I don't think thi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
its a hard drive attached to the netbook. Funnily enough this is his third HD...and is a western digital HD as well. On 16 April 2010 12:20, John Stevenson wrote: > > On 16 April 2010 11:44, Adam Bagnall wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:23 AM, javadayaz wrote: >> >>> i dont think

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread John Stevenson
On 16 April 2010 11:44, Adam Bagnall wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:23 AM, javadayaz wrote: > >> i dont think he has another machine. He is using ubuntu one on his >> netbook >> >> but i will forward this option to him as well. >> >> On 16 April 2010 11:21, Simon Greenwood wrote: >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread John Stevenson
On 16 April 2010 11:23, javadayaz wrote: > i dont think he has another machine. He is using ubuntu one on his > netbook > > but i will forward this option to him as well. > > On 16 April 2010 11:21, Simon Greenwood wrote: > >> >> >> On 16 April 2010 11:08, javadayaz wrote: >> >>> My brother

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
cool will forward this as well On 16 April 2010 11:44, Adam Bagnall wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:23 AM, javadayaz wrote: > >> i dont think he has another machine. He is using ubuntu one on his >> netbook >> >> but i will forward this option to him as well. >> >> On 16 April 2010

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Adam Bagnall
On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:23 AM, javadayaz wrote: > i dont think he has another machine. He is using ubuntu one on his > netbook > > but i will forward this option to him as well. > > On 16 April 2010 11:21, Simon Greenwood wrote: > >> >> >> On 16 April 2010 11:08, javadayaz wrote: >> >>>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
i dont think he has another machine. He is using ubuntu one on his netbook but i will forward this option to him as well. On 16 April 2010 11:21, Simon Greenwood wrote: > > > On 16 April 2010 11:08, javadayaz wrote: > >> My brother has just had his hard drive fail. Testdisk is saying "All

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Simon Greenwood
On 16 April 2010 11:08, javadayaz wrote: > My brother has just had his hard drive fail. Testdisk is saying "All bad > sectors". Is there anything that can be done to rescue the data? > If he (or you) have another machine, it could be removed and put in that either directly or with a USB hard d

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
i dont think there is a backup :) i will recommend spinrite to him. On 16 April 2010 11:17, Alan Pope wrote: > On 16 April 2010 11:08, javadayaz wrote: > > My brother has just had his hard drive fail. Testdisk is saying "All bad > > sectors". Is there anything that can be done to rescue the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread Alan Pope
On 16 April 2010 11:08, javadayaz wrote: > My brother has just had his hard drive fail. Testdisk is saying "All bad > sectors".  Is there anything that can be done to rescue the data? Restore from backup? People say spinrite is good, never tried it myself. Cheers, Al. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubunt

[ubuntu-uk] Hard drive- Bad sectors

2010-04-16 Thread javadayaz
My brother has just had his hard drive fail. Testdisk is saying "All bad sectors". Is there anything that can be done to rescue the data? -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive

2007-09-17 Thread STONE COLD
cool, thank you very much sir! Regards Javad > Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2007 09:22:53 +0100> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com> Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive> > Hello,> > > Install the ntfs-3g and ntfs-config packages, and maybe reboot

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive

2007-09-17 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 09:27:21AM +0100, Tom Bamford wrote: > I believe it's better to use ntfs-3g rather than ntfs as the filesystem > type, unless they mean the same thing now. They mean the same thing in Gutsy, but I'd be inclined to stick with just ntfs in Feisty. -- Colin Watson

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive

2007-09-17 Thread Tom Bamford
I believe it's better to use ntfs-3g rather than ntfs as the filesystem type, unless they mean the same thing now. Regards Michael Holloway wrote: > Whats your " sudo fdisk -l " output. > > You should still be able to mount them - with "mount" or just putting > them in fstab (replacing sbd1 wi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive

2007-09-17 Thread Michael Holloway
Whats your " sudo fdisk -l " output. You should still be able to mount them - with "mount" or just putting them in fstab (replacing sbd1 with whatever it is listed as in fdisk). /dev/sdb1 /media/C-Drive ntfsdefaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 On Mon, 2007-09-17 at 07:41 +, STONE C

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive

2007-09-17 Thread Tom Bamford
Hello, Install the ntfs-3g and ntfs-config packages, and maybe reboot if necessary. You should get read access to your partitions, you can then run 'gksudo ntfs-config' to enable write-support. Regards, Tom STONE COLD wrote: > > Hi, > > I have a dual boot...my windows OS detects my partiti

[ubuntu-uk] Hard drive

2007-09-17 Thread STONE COLD
Hi, I have a dual boot...my windows OS detects my partitions...but ubuntu fiesty doesnt... The two partitions in question are in ntfs format is there anyway i can load them into fiesty without having to reinstall! -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listin

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive partitions/ Space

2007-09-07 Thread Alan Pope
Hi, On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 10:51 +, STONE COLD wrote: > I have a dual boot installed on an 80gb hd. I installed a 400gb for my > media. I partitioned this 400gb hd into two 200gb partitions But after > a gutsy install they are now showing 186gb of free space each! > I don’t understand why this

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive partitions/ Space

2007-09-07 Thread SteVe Cook
STONE COLD wrote: > I have a dual boot installed on an 80gb hd. I installed a 400gb for > my media. I partitioned this 400gb hd into two 200gb partitions But > after a gutsy install they are now showing 186gb of free space each! > I don’t understand why this is? Any information will be appreciated

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive partitions/ Space

2007-09-07 Thread Phil Bull
Hi Javad, On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 10:51 +, STONE COLD wrote: > I have a dual boot installed on an 80gb hd. I installed a 400gb for my > media. I partitioned this 400gb hd into two 200gb partitions But after > a gutsy install they are now showing 186gb of free space each! > I don’t understand why

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Hard drive partitions/ Space

2007-09-07 Thread Darren Mansell
On Fri, 2007-09-07 at 10:51 +, STONE COLD wrote: > I have a dual boot installed on an 80gb hd. I installed a 400gb for my > media. I partitioned this 400gb hd into two 200gb partitions But after > a gutsy install they are now showing 186gb of free space each! > I don’t understand why this is?

[ubuntu-uk] Hard drive partitions/ Space

2007-09-07 Thread STONE COLD
I have a dual boot installed on an 80gb hd. I installed a 400gb for my media. I partitioned this 400gb hd into two 200gb partitions But after a gutsy install they are now showing 186gb of free space each! I don’t understand why this is? Any information will be appreciated Regards Javad-- ubuntu