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2009/2/19 Rowan :
> "Whereabouts in the UK are you Rowan? Perhaps we can hook you up with
> some real-world support which might be faster than lots of to-and-fro
> on the mailing list."
>
> That would be splendid, Alan, thank you for the thought. I am in north
> London. Of course the great advanta
"Whereabouts in the UK are you Rowan? Perhaps we can hook you up with
some real-world support which might be faster than lots of to-and-fro
on the mailing list."
That would be splendid, Alan, thank you for the thought. I am in north London.
Of course the great advantage of laptops is that one can
2009/2/19 Rowan :
> Liam Proven wrote:
>> Congratulations. Your was the rudest and most ungrateful email I've
>> dealt with in 21 years of supporting Unix systems.
> You must have lived a very sheltered life, Liam.
>
Lets just calm down guys.
Rowan, you clearly have a problematic device in your m
Liam Proven wrote:
> Congratulations. Your was the rudest and most ungrateful email I've
> dealt with in 21 years of supporting Unix systems.
You must have lived a very sheltered life, Liam.
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2009/2/19 Rowan :
> If you don't wish to be patronising, then don't BE patronising. Assume
> that I am as competent with the hardware as you are.
Congratulations. Your was the rudest and most ungrateful email I've
dealt with in 21 years of supporting Unix systems.
Go buy a Mac. If you are going t
Now this is worth knowing! I am referring the whole problem back to the
supplier's engineers for review. Thanks for this though!
-- /Actually, the command does work with the | key. When you get the "dmesg
[-c][-n level][-s bufsize]" message, this means that you entered an invalid
option for dme
Unfortunately none of the below is going to be of any help to Rowan as
he has no ethernet interface recognised on his machine.
Guy.
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 18:09 +, Liam Proven wrote:
> Rowan, it seems to me that the good-natured suggestions of people
> trying to be helpful here aren't getting
If you don't wish to be patronising, then don't BE patronising. Assume
that I am as competent with the hardware as you are.
Liam Proven wrote:
> Rowan, it seems to me that the good-natured suggestions of people
> trying to be helpful here aren't getting you anywhere.
>
> Here is an overview of th
Actually, the command does work with the | key. When you get the
dmesg [-c][-n level][-s bufsize]
message, this means that you entered an invalid option for dmesg (grep
and eth0 in this case).
Because you get no output when using |, this means that there are no
lines outputted by dmesg that c
Good man, Paul - there is indeed a "/" key with "|" as its upper case. I
hadn't realised they were the same. However, in this terminal anyway,
the command only works WITHOUT the "|", and it yields
dmesg [-c][-n level][-s bufsize]
WITH the "|" character inserted, it yields no response at all, it
Rowan, it seems to me that the good-natured suggestions of people
trying to be helpful here aren't getting you anywhere.
Here is an overview of the situation, as we understand it, trying
"blind" to work out what's going on.
[1] The HomeHub has an Ethernet port. So does your Linux PC.
[2] Now, nor
Ah ok, I should have realised obviously that the machine you are issuing
the commands on is not the machine you are sending emails from.
Sorry!
Do you have access to a USB drive or similar to copy over to the windows
machine as a text file?
Failing that:
dmesg | grep Realtek
dmesg | grep Ethernet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
LeeGroups wrote:
> Rowan,
>
> Oh, it's definitely there somewhere, just that Sony didn't print it.
> Try pressing all of the non-letter keys, with and with the shift key...
>
> Lee
>
>> There is no | key on the Linux machine (there is one on this So
Rowan,
Oh, it's definitely there somewhere, just that Sony didn't print it.
Try pressing all of the non-letter keys, with and with the shift key...
Lee
> There is no | key on the Linux machine (there is one on this Sony
> Windows machine)
>
> LeeGroups wrote:
>
>>> "sudo dmesg grep eth0" giv
Sorry, but "dmesg" as a whole is something like a hundred lines long,
and I have no way to copy it electronically.
Guy Thouret wrote:
> Because there is no eth0 that command will not show us anything anyway.
>
> Can you attach the output of just dmesg please?
>
> Guy.
>
> On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 1
Because there is no eth0 that command will not show us anything anyway.
Can you attach the output of just dmesg please?
Guy.
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 17:16 +, Rowan wrote:
> There is no | key on the Linux machine (there is one on this Sony
> Windows machine)
>
> LeeGroups wrote:
> >> "sudo d
There is no | key on the Linux machine (there is one on this Sony
Windows machine)
LeeGroups wrote:
>> "sudo dmesg grep eth0" gives:
>>
>> usage: dmesg [-c][-n level][-s bufsize]
>>
>>
>
> I thin that should be -
>
> "sudo dmesg | grep eth0"
>
> i.e. with the extra | character...
>
>
> Le
> "sudo dmesg grep eth0" gives:
>
> usage: dmesg [-c][-n level][-s bufsize]
>
I thin that should be -
"sudo dmesg | grep eth0"
i.e. with the extra | character...
Lee
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>From the output of ifconfig, we know your machine does not have a
physical ethernet interface registered so no amount of configuration in
the network manager or is going to help you I'm afraid.
Could you attach the entire output of just the dmesg command please so
we can diagnose further please?
Thanks for the suggestions, Guy.
"sudo dmesg grep eth0" gives:
usage: dmesg [-c][-n level][-s bufsize]
"sudo ifconfig -a" gives the same as "sudo ifconfig", namely, local
loopback only.
Guy Thouret wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 15:23 +, Simos wrote:
>> A google search for 'RTL8111/8168B
On Thu, 2009-02-19 at 15:23 +, Simos wrote:
> A google search for 'RTL8111/8168B Intrepid' reveals the following bug
> report
> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/285430
If the OS is actually aware of the physical ethernet interface this bug
may be relevant.
>From the output we have
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Rowan wrote:
> "lshw -C network" yielded lots of suggestive data:
>
> * -network UNCLAIMED
> description: Ethernet Controller
> product: RTL8111/8168B PCI Express
This helps (the product line). The part above 'UNCLAIMED' is a bit weird.
A google search for 'RTL81
"lshw -C network" yielded lots of suggestive data:
* -network UNCLAIMED
description: Ethernet Controller
product: RTL8111/8168B PCI Express
vendor: Realtek
physical ID: 0
bus info: p...@.14.00.0
version: 02
width: 64 bits
clock: 33 MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master cap_li
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Rowan wrote:
> That's interesting, Simos, but the Hub has recognised and connected
> quite normally (via Ethernet) the Windows machine I am using now, since
> its last hard reset. However, in any case, please tell me where can I
> find the 'special steps'? To judge
That's interesting, Simos, but the Hub has recognised and connected
quite normally (via Ethernet) the Windows machine I am using now, since
its last hard reset. However, in any case, please tell me where can I
find the 'special steps'? To judge by the results from the Terminal that
I posted jus
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 6:23 PM, Rowan wrote:
> The engineers at LinuxCertified just drew my attention to this:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkAdmin
> which is the relevant section of the official online Ubuntu manual, of
> which I had until now not been informed, so I guess I will fin
On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 05:23, Rowan wrote:
> well - thank you for all your advice, gentlemen. I shall get back to you
> as soon as I have digested and applied the apprpriate sections of this:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/
> I realise that it would be impractical to provide a printed user manual
> wh
Rowan wrote:
> well - thank you for all your advice, gentlemen. I shall get back to you
> as soon as I have digested and applied the apprpriate sections of this:
> https://help.ubuntu.com/
> I realise that it would be impractical to provide a printed user manual
> when Ubuntu is constantly evolving
well - thank you for all your advice, gentlemen. I shall get back to you
as soon as I have digested and applied the apprpriate sections of this:
https://help.ubuntu.com/
I realise that it would be impractical to provide a printed user manual
when Ubuntu is constantly evolving, but the principle
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Michael Holloway wrote:
>
> There is very little reason why you should configure your network
> interface before attempting to connect it. I imagine (and would be
> disgusted if it didn't) that the BT box runs DHCP...
The HH does, indeed, run DHCP. It's pretty m
Rowan,
The reason why many ISPs do not 'support' Linux is that Linux is not an
operating system in the sense that Windows or MacOS are. It is a kernel,
and there are about a dozen popular operating systems that use it
(distributions) and a hundred more of the unpopular ones. Ubuntu is just
one of t
The engineers at LinuxCertified just drew my attention to this:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkAdmin
which is the relevant section of the official online Ubuntu manual, of
which I had until now not been informed, so I guess I will find my
solutions there.
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Rowan,
You came here looking for help. We are trying to help you. Instead of
being contradictory could you not just post the answers to the points in
Michaels message so that we can attempt to help you resolve your issue.
Guy.
On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 17:51 +, Rowan wrote:
> Obviously, the l
And, if I might just add, this is a singularly inane remark:
"ISP's aren't linux friendly or linux unfriendly; networking is
operating system agnostic."
It should be obvious enough that some ISPs at least claim to be able to
support Linux users, and others do not. The question is, whether any of
Obviously, the laptop does not have an IP address from the Home Hub. It
cannot see the Home Hub, nor can the Home Hub see it. This is the point.
You also say:
"many of the white HomeHubs have myriad problems. The new black ones are
much more reliable."
This statement appears to be contradicted b
Haha, Have you checked that your laptop is plugged in and turned on :)
There is very little reason why you should configure your network
interface before attempting to connect it. I imagine (and would be
disgusted if it didn't) that the BT box runs DHCP and therefore your
laptop should auto connec
ISP's aren't linux friendly or linux unfriendly; networking is operating
system agnostic.
Please try logging into your HomeHub through http://192.168.1.254 and
checking your laptop is listed in the Devices (or similar) section, click on
the device icon if present to see if your laptop has an IP add
Your suggestions 5 and 6 are at least non-trivial. But, can I do all
this configuring of the Ethernet port BEFORE connecting it to the Hub? I
have two reasons for preferring this: one, I imagine it is better set-up
procedure in general, to configure ports in advance before connecting
them (if t
Rowan, I think we are all confused that it didn't "just work" as this
concept is a bit alien to us :-)
Lets start from the beginning.
1. Are the lights on the ethernet ports on both the computer and the BT
box green/orange flashing etc ?
2. You say you have "a multitude" of ports. How many Ether
I don't want to sound ungrateful, but I made it clear in my first post
that it didn't just work out of the box like that. You all seem to
assume I haven't even attempted to configure it, but if you read my
first message, I state that I have attempted to connect in the
straighforward way already
It most likely already is set. The default configuration is for
ethernet to be enabled for automatic connection.
Plug your computer into the Homehub using an ethernet cable and try
acecssing the web page detailed below and let us know what happens.
Guy.
On Wed, 2009-02-18 at 16:17 +, Rowan
"You just need to set your Ubuntu machine to ethernet" ... um ... how?
Ken Robson wrote:
> The home hub is just a router with built in wreless & voip.
> You just need to set your Ubuntu machine to ethernet and plug it in to
> the eth1 port on the router, I assume that the router is already setup
The white Home Hub should happily work with any machine connected via
Ethernet (USB is, if I remember, basically not used).
Basically, if everything is plugged in correctly, when you connect your PC
via Ethernet you should have a working Internet connection within a few
seconds - although the Hub
The home hub is just a router with built in wreless & voip.
You just need to set your Ubuntu machine to ethernet and plug it in to
the eth1 port on the router, I assume that the router is already setup
for BT other wise you need to connect to the web page
(http://192.168.1.254) and input your na
Hi,
I would love to know how to connect my new US-supplied Ubuntu-running
machine to a Home Hub (Mark 1, white model). I do not have, or intend
to fit, a wireless card in the computer, but it has a multitude of
Ethernet and USB ports. I am only concerned with connecting via
Ethernet (or, a
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