On 17/01/11 19:09, gazz wrote:
(subject re fair trade, ethics, etc)
People complain that
Waitrose is expensive but (a) the food doesn't taste like wax and cotton
wool and (b) the employees are being relatively decently treated.
Yes, and also they ar ea bit more forthcoming about the source
On 17/01/11 23:26, Phill Whiteside wrote:
> As a lubuntu user,
LooBuntu, that's a new one on me, does it specialise in toilet humour?
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As a lubuntu user, I think you may want to mention that you do not need so
high a spec of computer https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu#System
requirements which is pretty much any win98 computer. But it is not for me
start confusing the issue, I have no problems with my web-cam on Lubunt
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 09:58 +, Sean Miller wrote:
> On 17 January 2011 09:53, Barry Drake wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 09:29 +, Scrase, Eddie wrote:
> > Although I haven't bought a laptop from them, from past
> experience I can
> > recommend the Linux empo
On 17 January 2011 22:38, andres wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've been looking for this for some time but I think I'm not doing the
> right word search in google. I don't even know how to report it if it's
> a bug... might not even be an OS problem so sorry.
>
> I have an ubuntu netbook 10.04 acer aspire
Hello,
I've been looking for this for some time but I think I'm not doing the
right word search in google. I don't even know how to report it if it's
a bug... might not even be an OS problem so sorry.
I have an ubuntu netbook 10.04 acer aspire one zg5 (same as AO110 I
think but with SSD).
I ge
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 22:28 +, Bruno Girin wrote:
> Indeed. Also bear in mind that this is meant for people who have never
> used a PC in their lives so they may have a lot less pre-conceptions
> about what should be running on the PC than the average user.
That is both profound and ought to l
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 13:33 +, Jon Farmer wrote:
> On 17 January 2011 13:29, alan c wrote:
>
> > Unfortunately the 'L' word is not always very good news in a situation like
> > that. A lot of publicity about some users not being able to play their games
> > or whatever.
>
>
> That really is
On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 22:39 +, Alan Pope wrote:
> On 16 January 2011 22:36, Bruno Girin wrote:
> > Mmm... yes, good point. My equipment is not PAT tested and is more than
> > 12 months old. Is it a requirement of all equipment we bring to the
> > expo?
>
> No. We have never been asked to prov
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 06:59 +, Barry Titterton wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 22:36 +, Bruno Girin wrote:
>
> > That's the good thing about being a contractor: it's easy to take 1/2
> > day off, you just fill in 0 in the time sheet (although doing that too
> > often may be detrimental to y
- Original message -
> On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 18:55 +, gazz wrote:
> > it'll consist of practical workshops and presentations. If anyone
> > would like to get involved or do an Ubuntu-related workshop or
> > presentation for non-techies, let me know :)
>
> I'm quite interested and
On 17 January 2011 21:29, Paula wrote:
> Sorry, you'd think I'd have more sense about what I post to this kind of
> list by now ;) Withdrawn!
>
"this kind of list"??!?!
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- Original message -
> On 17 January 2011 19:09, gazz wrote:
>
> > sustainability (ie without going bust or dying of exhaustion and
> > malnutrition). It's just the same as paying more for fair trade goods.
> > People complain that Waitrose is expensive but (a) the food doesn't
> > taste l
Sean all:
New article came in today via twitter: might be of interest
http://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/395861:get-the-most-out-of-your-laptop-using-linux?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
guess nothing we didn't know but just in case.
Quite like the fairtrade comparison. Thanks Paul
On 17 January 2011 19:09, gazz wrote:
> sustainability (ie without going bust or dying of exhaustion and
> malnutrition). It's just the same as paying more for fair trade goods.
> People complain that Waitrose is expensive but (a) the food doesn't taste
> like wax and cotton wool and (b) the empl
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 09:53 +, Barry Drake wrote:
> I've heard very good reports about them, but looking at their website, I
> thought they were a tad expensive. Is their stuff higher spec than your
> average Computer World items?
>
> Regards, Barry Drake.
I went to them becaus
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 18:55 +, gazz wrote:
> it'll consist of practical workshops and presentations. If anyone
> would like to get involved or do an Ubuntu-related workshop or
> presentation for non-techies, let me know :)
I'm quite interested and free that day. Please tell me the start a
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 18:39 +, alan c wrote:
> On 17/01/11 14:32, Alan Pope wrote:
> To those who are still finding Linux Emporium prices indigestible, I
> point out that LE give a retail experience, with expert support. And
> they are part of our community, family, if you like. Compare
I'm organising an open day on Feb 23 for groups/SEs who work with
non-profits in East London providing or advising on Free Software -
it'll consist of practical workshops and presentations. If anyone would
like to get involved or do an Ubuntu-related workshop or presentation
for non-techies, let me
>From experience, the pcspecialists machines work faultlessly with Ubuntu.
Just fyi, You do need to use a proprietary wifi driver though.
Sent from my HTC Desire HD running Android
On 16 Jan 2011 17:40, "George Tripp" wrote:
> Up to now I've put Ubuntu on ancient PCs I already had. Currently I'm
On 17/01/11 14:32, Alan Pope wrote:
I have often pondered setting up a cottage business buying naked
laptops and ubuntifying them, but can't see there's a huge margin in
it, but there's the potential to get sucked into very long protracted
support conversations, negating any profit made.
I talk
On 17/01/11 17:07, Kris Douglas wrote:
There's always the option where you don't accept the Microsoft EULA
and get your money back for the install on the machine.
I believe that option no longer exists. But I would be delighted to be
found wrong!
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On 17/01/11 14:01, Barry Drake wrote:
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 13:41 +, alan c wrote:
If low cost is very important, then, yes, ethical decisions become
difficult.
When I bought my Dell Mini 10v last year, pre-loaded with Ubuntu, cost
was a factor, but ethical considerations were met as wel
Help needed. We've commenced a wiki on the Ubuntu Advertising site to
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On 17 January 2011 16:21, Sean Miller wrote:
> On 17 January 2011 13:41, alan c wrote:
>>
>> On 17/01/11 11:38, Sean Miller wrote:
>>
>>> And, to be honest, I'm not too worried about "personalized attention"
>>> when
>>> installing if I am going to save £100 on the retail cost of the
>>> laptop.
On 17 January 2011 13:41, alan c wrote:
> On 17/01/11 11:38, Sean Miller wrote:
>
> And, to be honest, I'm not too worried about "personalized attention" when
>> installing if I am going to save £100 on the retail cost of the laptop...
>> it
>>
>> will presumably "work out of the box"... where
On 17 January 2011 15:24, gazz wrote:
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> On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 14:51 +, Simon Greenwood wrote:
>
>
>
> On 17 January 2011 14:32, Alan Pope wrote:
>
> On 17 January 2011 14:23, Barry Drake wrote:
> > Just went through the process and looked at the shipping. A 10.1"
> > Netbook ships to
On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 21:19 +, Bruno Girin wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-01-16 at 19:18 +, d...@fishms.org wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Do we need to bring extension leads etc?
>
> Good point! I'll bring one just in case and a patch cable or two.
>
> Bruno
>
>
>
I can bring a strip or two, patc
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 14:51 +, Simon Greenwood wrote:
>
>
>
> On 17 January 2011 14:32, Alan Pope wrote:
>
> On 17 January 2011 14:23, Barry Drake
> wrote:
> > Just went through the process and looked at the shipping. A
> 10.1"
> > Netbook ships
On 17 January 2011 14:56, Barry Drake wrote:
> Ed Bernard at http://www.elpatech.co.uk sells his Ubuntu computers for
> the same price as his barebones ones. He says that giving support to
> his Windows PC's costs him far more than supporting Ubuntu! Especially
> since the magnificent 7.
>
Inte
On Fri, 2011-01-14 at 21:20 +, Barry Titterton wrote:
> The French government has decided that a machine using linux is not a
> proper computer.
>
> http://www.tabletpcreview.com/default.asp?newsID=1847&news=tablet+archos
> +windows+french+france
>
> You can always rely on the French for a go
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 14:51 +, Simon Greenwood wrote:
> Likewise. I even contemplated refurbishing old computers with a
> lightweight Ubuntu-based distro but the margin would have to be based
> on providing support, which could be made to work for small companies
> and charities and the like, b
On 17 January 2011 14:32, Alan Pope wrote:
> On 17 January 2011 14:23, Barry Drake wrote:
> > Just went through the process and looked at the shipping. A 10.1"
> > Netbook ships to the UK at $130 something - a good percentage of the
> > cost of the netbook!!!
> >
>
> I didn't say it was value f
On 17 January 2011 14:23, Barry Drake wrote:
> Just went through the process and looked at the shipping. A 10.1"
> Netbook ships to the UK at $130 something - a good percentage of the
> cost of the netbook!!!
>
I didn't say it was value for money :)
I have often pondered setting up a cottage bu
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 14:15 +, Alan Pope wrote:
> They ship to the UK now.
Just went through the process and looked at the shipping. A 10.1"
Netbook ships to the UK at $130 something - a good percentage of the
cost of the netbook!!!
Regards,Barry.
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On 17 January 2011 13:52, Barry Drake wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 13:41 +, Yorvyk wrote:
>> I'm surprised http://www.system76.com/ haven't been mentioned, unless I've
>> missed it .
>
> I thought they were USA only; am I wrong?
>
They ship to the UK now.
http://www.thinq.co.uk/2010/11/16
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 13:41 +, alan c wrote:
> If low cost is very important, then, yes, ethical decisions become
> difficult.
When I bought my Dell Mini 10v last year, pre-loaded with Ubuntu, cost
was a factor, but ethical considerations were met as well. It's been
fine so far, except for t
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 13:41 +, Yorvyk wrote:
> I'm surprised http://www.system76.com/ haven't been mentioned, unless I've
> missed it .
I thought they were USA only; am I wrong?
Regards,Barry.
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On 17/01/11 11:38, Sean Miller wrote:
And, to be honest, I'm not too worried about "personalized attention" when
installing if I am going to save £100 on the retail cost of the laptop... it
will presumably "work out of the box"... where I might need the support is
later
If you are happy to 'r
Hey Liam,
Ive seen some odd behaviour with Ubuntu on a Toshiba laptop, not sure what
hardware, but I set the wireless connection to use a static IP and the owner
says that they havent had hardly any connection drops. I think some drivers
have a problem with DHCP sync with some routers. Im sorry it
On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:08:23 +
alan c wrote:
> On 17/01/11 09:53, Barry Drake wrote:
> > On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 09:29 +, Scrase, Eddie wrote:
> >> Although I haven't bought a laptop from them, from past experience I can
> >> recommend the Linux emporium (linuxemporium.co.uk).
> >
> > I'v
On 17 January 2011 13:29, alan c wrote:
> Unfortunately the 'L' word is not always very good news in a situation like
> that. A lot of publicity about some users not being able to play their games
> or whatever.
That really is a matter of managing expectations. I know most people
hear PC they t
On 17/01/11 13:19, Yorvyk wrote:
Interesting story, £98 PCs target UK digital divide. "The cheap
computers will run open-source software, such as Linux..."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12205412
Unfortunately the 'L' word is not always very good news in a situation
like that. A lot of
On 17/01/11 13:00, Rowan Berkeley wrote:
what we need is 'naked computer' suppliers,
since we are better off installing our own Ubuntu systems from Live CDs
and if we are completely computer-less we can get Live CDs ready-made.
I am heartily with you on this. But we need a little more don't we?
I will be bold enough to propose a summary in this situation, having
read this thread to date. Tin underpants on.
1) The good guys do not always win.
2) If you want to support your beliefs, it might cost money. Freedom
might not come cheap? Ok, if not, then buy with the mass market
competition
Interesting story, £98 PCs target UK digital divide. "The cheap computers will
run open-source software, such as Linux..."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-12205412
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On 17/01/11 09:53, Barry Drake wrote:
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 09:29 +, Scrase, Eddie wrote:
Although I haven't bought a laptop from them, from past experience I can
recommend the Linux emporium (linuxemporium.co.uk).
I've heard very good reports about them, but looking at their website, I
I got my current laptop from Linux Emporium (a Lenovo N500), and I'm
quite happy with it (apart from the BIOS-level fact that it tests the CD
drive three times during every startup, which is a noisy and irritating
waste of time). But after eight months or something I suffered a general
disintegrati
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 11:40 +, Dave Hanson wrote:
> It was this model - http://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/notebooks/optimus/
I bought my desktop from pcspecialist. I bought it with no OS - they
are happy for that. They will not pre-install Ubuntu, but obviously
know a lot about it and are far mo
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 11:41 +, Sean Miller wrote:
> In which case there is something amiss, is there not?
>
> Because they could buy a laptop retail from PC World for £299 by
> simply walking in, spend 5 minutes restoring a disc image and then
> sell at £399, £450 or whatever they do with a HE
On 17 January 2011 11:34, Simon Greenwood wrote:
> It's more likely that they would have a deal with a maker of white label
> laptops in China or Taiwan. It's not easy to build laptops from components.
>
In which case there is something amiss, is there not?
Because they could buy a laptop retai
I got a very good laptop from pcspecialist.co.uk, i7 processor 8GB RAM,
It came with Windows 7 pre-loaded but everything 'just works' when i
installed Lucid onto it.
I'm only writing this as when i was trying to find one that had high
specs, there isn't a great deal of documentation out there
On 17 January 2011 11:30, Andrés Muñiz Piniella wrote:
> When there is little demand things get more expensive.
> It's cheaper to batch install on computers that where fabricated to be used
> with windows. I don't think there is a guy installing each windows drive.
> Probably done in factory via
On 17 January 2011 11:23, Sean Miller wrote:
> On 17 January 2011 11:15, Andy Braben wrote:
>
>> Advertising has certainly been missed which is expensive. And also who
>> would buy these products? Members on this list might, but as most people
>> know nothing different to Microsoft and even if t
I think I have an answer for that (at least from what I remember from
economics 101). Or at least one of the below should be right
When there is little demand things get more expensive.
It's cheaper to batch install on computers that where fabricated to be used
with windows. I don't think there is
On 17 January 2011 11:15, Andy Braben wrote:
> Advertising has certainly been missed which is expensive. And also who
> would buy these products? Members on this list might, but as most people
> know nothing different to Microsoft and even if they do, don't want it. It
> is not something that I w
On 17 January 2011 11:05, Sean Miller wrote:
> On 17 January 2011 10:59, Jon Spriggs wrote:
>
>>
>> Less taxes, oh and paying the person who's installing Linux. And the HR
>> person who's making sure they're doing everything right by the person. And
>> electricity, to, you know, keep the buildin
On 17 January 2011 10:45, Sean Miller wrote:
> So why don't Linux Emporium, then, simply go to PC World, negotiate a deal
> for multiple PCs (50 £299 machines I am sure they'd give them for £200 or
> thereabouts, maybe £250 at a pinch) and then merely install Ubuntu and put
> the price back up to
On 17 January 2011 10:59, Jon Spriggs wrote:
>
> Less taxes, oh and paying the person who's installing Linux. And the HR
> person who's making sure they're doing everything right by the person. And
> electricity, to, you know, keep the building running while they're doing the
> installations. Oh,
On 17 January 2011 10:45, Sean Miller wrote:
> On 17 January 2011 10:24, Alan Lord (News) wrote:
>
>> Erm, I bet Tesco/PC World buy a shedload more machines than Linux Emporium
>> could ever do and so will get much better volume discounts on the hardware
>> even before you take into consideratio
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 10:24 +, Alan Lord (News) wrote:
> Erm, I bet Tesco/PC World buy a shedload more machines than Linux
> Emporium could ever do and so will get much better volume discounts
> on
> the hardware even before you take into consideration the crapware
> kickbacks I mentioned ab
On 17 January 2011 10:24, Alan Lord (News) wrote:
> Erm, I bet Tesco/PC World buy a shedload more machines than Linux Emporium
> could ever do and so will get much better volume discounts on the hardware
> even before you take into consideration the crapware kickbacks I mentioned
> above.
>
So w
On 17/01/11 09:58, Sean Miller wrote:
That's always been a concern of mine... they always seem excessive in
terms of price vs. specification and I don't understand this, because
surely building a machine WITHOUT Windows (and its costly licences, even
considering OEM) ought to be CHEAPER?
Nope.
On 17 January 2011 09:53, Barry Drake wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 09:29 +, Scrase, Eddie wrote:
> > Although I haven't bought a laptop from them, from past experience I can
> > recommend the Linux emporium (linuxemporium.co.uk).
>
> I've heard very good reports about them, but looking at t
On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 09:29 +, Scrase, Eddie wrote:
> Although I haven't bought a laptop from them, from past experience I can
> recommend the Linux emporium (linuxemporium.co.uk).
I've heard very good reports about them, but looking at their website, I
thought they were a tad expensive. Is t
> What do other people do? Any advice?
Although I haven't bought a laptop from them, from past experience I can
recommend the Linux emporium (linuxemporium.co.uk).
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I have a small amount of experience using Sun's LDAP, see my comment below
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On 14 January 2011 22:31, Jacob Mansfield wrote:
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On 17/01/11 08:26, Andrés Muñiz Piniella wrote:
Remember you can always claim your money back for not using windows!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6144782.stm
MS have made it much harder to do that since Windows 7. The wording of
the EULA was changed.
We have bought laptops and I've
Remember you can always claim your money back for not using windows!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6144782.stm
55quid is not bad.
As barry sugested linuxemporium doesn't seem like a bad option:
http://www.linuxemporium.co.uk/hardware/hardware-laptops.html
I use dell at work but they are w
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