Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bloatware was memory lane

2007-11-12 Thread Sean Miller
I'm afraid that the whole assembler thing was too much for me... could never really get my head around it... as for machine code forget it... I was pretty impressed, though, with what some folks managed to get out of a 1k ZX81... that was efficient programming at its best... my favourite machine,

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Paul Tansom
** Rob Beard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-11-12 20:04]: > James Grabham wrote: > > You're all really old, I cant remember before my familys 486 with DOS > > 6.22 and win 3.11 for workgroups (I was born in 1992!!) lol I know > > my Mum had a computer before that, but I cant remember it - I found > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bloatware was memory lane

2007-11-12 Thread Tony Travis
Tony Arnold wrote: > [...] > Minor point, but C is compiled, not interpreted. And Java is compiled > into a virtual machine byte code which is then interpreted! Hello, Tony. Well, *my* 6502 Small-C was a TIL (Threaded Interpreted Language) based on FIG Forth and generated Forth 'words' interpret

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Bloatware was memory lane

2007-11-12 Thread Tony Arnold
Ian, Ian Pascoe wrote: > Hi Norman > > Yes, when I think back to my Beeb days and the Inter suite of office > applications on clever 64k ROMs, against today's Office applications - Open > Office org is 108Mb for a Windows installation, 135Mb for Linux, I do really > wonder what's happened. > > S

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: [ORG-discuss] Manchester Free Software - tomorrow - November 13th - 7pm]

2007-11-12 Thread Tony Arnold
John, John Levin wrote: > For those in Manchester & surounds, an event of interest. It does. A shame I have another commitment on Tuesday evenings otherwise I would go. Regards, Tony. > > Original Message > > > Interested in free software? Keen to learn more about ethical co

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Tony Arnold
Rob Beard wrote: > Kris Douglas wrote: >> I was born in '92 but I know that they had a ZX81 with the 16K ram >> upgrade (fancy :D)... and a BBC. Then they went straight over to a 286 >> DOS machine, which they then put 3.11wg on. (That 500mb drive still >> boots, as does windows and Qbasic and

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try to help............ SATA Hdd Problem.

2007-11-12 Thread Tony Arnold
Tony, Tony Travis wrote: > Tony Arnold wrote: >> Altavista came first, I think. It was originally set up by Digital (DEC, >> now HP via Compaq). I guess it was bought out by someone, but I don't >> know who. > > Hello, Tony. > > Alive and, patenting at: > > http://www.altavista.com/about

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane

2007-11-12 Thread London School of Puppetry
On 12/11/2007, Dianne Reuby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're making me feel prehistoric! I had a C64 for my first personal > machine, but I'd worked on IBM mainframes for about 6 or 7 years before > that. Card job control input, data input mainly on card or paper tape - > our punch room still

Re: [ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: [ORG-discuss] Manchester Free Software - tomorrow - November 13th - 7pm]

2007-11-12 Thread Pete Stean
And they're good people - I deal with Dave Carter, the guy who runs Manchester DDA, all the time Pete On Nov 12, 2007 5:25 PM, John Levin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For those in Manchester & surounds, an event of interest. > > Original Message > > > Interested in free software

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Ronnie, On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 21:06 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Running in to Dixons/Comet, going to the C64's and doing the old: > 10 PRINT "DIXONS SUCK!" > 20 GO TO 10 Heh. Yeah, I used to do that too. On the spectrums I'd do RANDOMIZE USR 1331 Which gives nice pretty blue and purp

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Elisa MC- config question

2007-11-12 Thread Javad Ayaz
well for example i copied and pasted this : /media/sdb1/Desktops/Wallpapers for pic locations...but nothing happened...so i took the line out..and it just started working again! On 12/11/2007, Neil Greenwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Javad, > > On 10/11/2007, Javad Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Keith, On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 21:55 +, Keith Cleaver wrote: > James Grabham wrote: > > Where as these days we just shove ubuntu live CDs in the PCs at PC > > world, reboot them, and laugh as people say "wow this Vista thing > > looks great" > > > LOL, I'm gonna try that next time I go in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Keith Cleaver
James Grabham wrote: > Where as these days we just shove ubuntu live CDs in the PCs at PC > world, reboot them, and laugh as people say "wow this Vista thing > looks great" > LOL, I'm gonna try that next time I go in there... has anyone done that, and what was the reaction like? -- ubuntu-uk

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread James Grabham
Where as these days we just shove ubuntu live CDs in the PCs at PC world, reboot them, and laugh as people say "wow this Vista thing looks great" On Nov 12, 2007 9:06 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Ahh... them were the days... > > Running in to Dixons/Comet, going to the C64's and doing the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Sean Miller
On 11/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Ahh... them were the days... > > Running in to Dixons/Comet, going to the C64's and doing the old: > 10 PRINT "DIXONS SUCK!" > 20 GO TO 10 > ... then bolt and watch the 'assistants' panic > ROFLMAO... ! Thanks, made my day ;-) Sea

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread ronnie
Ahh... them were the days... Running in to Dixons/Comet, going to the C64's and doing the old: 10 PRINT "DIXONS SUCK!" 20 GO TO 10 ... then bolt and watch the 'assistants' panic. A few years ago the stock taker in my work still use an old ancient 'laptop' I use the term 'laptop' loosel

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Elisa MC- config question

2007-11-12 Thread Neil Greenwood
Hi Javad, On 10/11/2007, Javad Ayaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > thats what i meant...i put it in the location youve just specified...but > nothing happened!! If Elisa doesn't start after you've edited the file until you remove your additions, it sounds like you've got the syntax wrong. Include

Re: [ubuntu-uk] java6 JDK documentation

2007-11-12 Thread Neil Greenwood
Hi Alan, On 12/11/2007, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi Pascal, > > On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 17:04 +, Pascal Khoury wrote: > > I have installed ndisgtk, as I am missing the JDK documentation from > > the installer package, I was prompted to download jdk-6-doc.zip from > > http://java.su

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Tony Travis
Sean Miller wrote: > BBC Micro was a great machine... the ZX81 was somewhat more limited... > don't get me wrong, it was my first home micro but it wasn't really up > to any great programming challenges... Hey, Sean! I beg to differ - I wrote a self-hosting 6502 Small-C compiler for the BBC Mi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try to help............ SATA Hdd Problem.

2007-11-12 Thread Tony Travis
Tony Arnold wrote: > Kris, > > Kris Douglas wrote: >> >> On 12/11/2007, *Sean Miller* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Yes, whereas my great grandfather always swears by Altavista... ;-) >> >> >> >> Altavista is just a rebranded yahoo search. > > Alta

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Robert Spanjaard
On Mon, 12 Nov 2007 18:50:30 +, norman wrote: > I had a theory that as RAM became cheaper and cheaper programmers became > lazier and lazier and did not need to strive to be economical with their > code. Which is true. The most obvious example for me was when I switched from Word 6.0 to Word

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Rob Beard
James Grabham wrote: > You're all really old, I cant remember before my familys 486 with DOS > 6.22 and win 3.11 for workgroups (I was born in 1992!!) lol I know > my Mum had a computer before that, but I cant remember it - I found > its dot matrix printer in the loft a while ago though. > Ahh

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam

2007-11-12 Thread Rob Beard
Kris Douglas wrote: > > > On 12/11/2007, *Alan Pope* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > Hi Pascal, > > On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 15:38 +, Pascal Khoury wrote: > > Is there a good webcam software to interact with msn hotmail > users? I > > don't think yo

[ubuntu-uk] Bloatware was memory lane

2007-11-12 Thread Ian Pascoe
Hi Norman Yes, when I think back to my Beeb days and the Inter suite of office applications on clever 64k ROMs, against today's Office applications - Open Office org is 108Mb for a Windows installation, 135Mb for Linux, I do really wonder what's happened. Some of the bloat is down to increased fe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Rob Beard
Kris Douglas wrote: > > I was born in '92 but I know that they had a ZX81 with the 16K ram > upgrade (fancy :D)... and a BBC. Then they went straight over to a 286 > DOS machine, which they then put 3.11wg on. (That 500mb drive still > boots, as does windows and Qbasic and SQL Anywhere) Then the

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Eddie Armstrong
Greg K Nicholson wrote: > 'ad to put t'index finger and t'middle finger into t'back > o' t'computer, and t'tongue into t'wall socket. > > So you are also claiming to have invented sockets programming? As for using your teeth on punch cards why do you think cogs were invented. Built -in teeth.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread ged byrom
You lot must have been seriously rich in them days to be able to afford all them computers. I'm still begging the hand me downs. " Spare a poor boy a broken computer missus ?" O. Twist. -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread norman
ust realised, my finger slipped with the date it was 1983 when the article appeared. After all, the Osborne appeared in 1981. Norman -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Eddie Armstrong
Chris Rowson wrote: sold my patent to a chap called William for a couple of hundred dollars. Ah that must be William Portals II; his son (who has a different cognomen) is credited with inventing a form of *software *(ha ha - how ridiculous, it'll never catch on) - except maybe in one of them

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Chris Rowson: > Meh lightweights > > My first forage into computing in the 1800's was much more hardcore. > You don't know you're born! > > I would often be called to the analytical machine late at night, > because a tiny misalignment of a brass cog had caused it to render an > ascii image of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread norman
What a collection of wonderful memories. One of the many things I have puzzled over is the way the size of software has increased over the years. For example, I used to use Wordstar 1.8 which did all the basic things one needed to produce documents very similar to the present day office programmes.

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Ian Pascoe
Huh! Call that hardship, lad? Ney, t'were pure luxury. Back in the 1700s we had major problems with power supply during the summer months for our water powered logical gates in the Monastry of Mathmatics in Couterbury Cathedral E -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Chris Rowson
> Weren't you the bloke who invented Microcogs in his carriage house? > Just think if it weren't for silicon and a few million other discoveries > you could have been the world's richest man - it's enough to make you > slip your cogs thinking about it. > :-) > > Eddie Don't remind me about it. I m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Jim Kissel
Tony Arnold wrote: > Jim Kissel wrote: >> Sean Miller wrote: You're all really old, I cant remember before my familys 486 with DOS 6.22 and win 3.11 for workgroups (I was born in 1992!!) lol I know my Mum had a computer before that, but I cant remember it - I found its dot m

Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Pete Stean: > I have the firefox plugin for xine, and helix player, and the .ram > stream is working fine for me - you really don't want to clutter up > your system with realplayer if you can possibly avoid it. Actually I do, if I can't get Real streams to play in Totem — RealPlayer's UI is actua

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Eddie Armstrong
Chris Rowson wrote: > Meh lightweights > > My first forage into computing in the 1800' Weren't you the bloke who invented Microcogs in his carriage house? Just think if it weren't for silicon and a few million other discoveries you could have been the world's richest man - it's enough to make

[ubuntu-uk] Thanks

2007-11-12 Thread Pascal Khoury
Thanks Eddie, Thanks Al..that's great, it works Pascal ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promotions.yahoo.com/forgood/environment.html-- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Chris Rowson
> Ian Pascoe wrote: > > Well I cut my teeth on a Model B and the first major enhancement I did to it > > was to add a 5.25" floppy drive. > Mmm, not sure I should confess to this in a public forum but: > I also started on a Beeb, had to install the floppy-disc interface one > chip at a time an

Re: [ubuntu-uk] java6 JDK documentation

2007-11-12 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Pascal, On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 17:04 +, Pascal Khoury wrote: > I have installed ndisgtk, as I am missing the JDK documentation from > the installer package, I was prompted to download jdk-6-doc.zip from > http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/ > > I have downloaded the *.zip file, however I

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Eddie Armstrong
Ian Pascoe wrote: > Well I cut my teeth on a Model B and the first major enhancement I did to it > was to add a 5.25" floppy drive. Mmm, not sure I should confess to this in a public forum but: I also started on a Beeb, had to install the floppy-disc interface one chip at a time and installe

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane

2007-11-12 Thread Dianne Reuby
You're making me feel prehistoric! I had a C64 for my first personal machine, but I'd worked on IBM mainframes for about 6 or 7 years before that. Card job control input, data input mainly on card or paper tape - our punch room still had an old hand punch in case all the electric punches failed! D

[ubuntu-uk] [Fwd: [ORG-discuss] Manchester Free Software - tomorrow - November 13th - 7pm]

2007-11-12 Thread John Levin
For those in Manchester & surounds, an event of interest. Original Message Interested in free software? Keen to learn more about ethical computing? Need a hand sorting your kernel from your operating system? Come along! Where? MDDA: http://www.manchesterdda.com/directions/ Wh

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Ian Pascoe
Well I cut my teeth on a Model B and the first major enhancement I did to it was to add a 5.25" floppy drive. The speed at which it retrieved data was astounding! However, I was definately not allowed to "play" with my parent's Amstrad wordprocessor so I got me InterWord for my Beeb - t

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam

2007-11-12 Thread Sean Miller
> > I vote to eject the Windows system:-) I like my Windows system... it allows me to deride Microsoft when comparing it with its peers... please don't evict it... If you want to evict anything, could it be the broken iMac in the next room?!!? Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] java6 JDK documentation

2007-11-12 Thread Eddie Armstrong
Pascal Khoury wrote: should be owned by root.root (what does this mean??) and be copied to /tmp You should leave the file zipped. root-root are the files owner/group permissions If you access files via a graphical tool: right-click the file; choose 'permissions' tab, set owner and group to 'ro

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam

2007-11-12 Thread Tony Arnold
Chris Rowson wrote: >> By the way, I received two Gutsy CDs in the post a couple of days ago... >> they seem to be shipping them out faster than previously, perhaps because of >> the more limited numbers (?) >> >> Proof on webcam ;-) >> >> Sean > > Oooh I see - This is like a slightly more nerdy v

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam

2007-11-12 Thread Sean Miller
hahah... thankfully I shall not be running this webcam for long... I'll send it down the misguided pub and it'll be their problem... just letting it stream to test the concept, though I suspect a 5 second refresh is probably a little too much... will kill his bandwidth quota with his ISP... Sean

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Tony Arnold
Jim Kissel wrote: > > Sean Miller wrote: >>> You're all really old, I cant remember before my familys 486 with DOS >>> 6.22 and win 3.11 for workgroups (I was born in 1992!!) lol I know >>> my Mum had a computer before that, but I cant remember it - I found >>> its dot matrix printer in the loft

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam

2007-11-12 Thread Chris Rowson
> By the way, I received two Gutsy CDs in the post a couple of days ago... > they seem to be shipping them out faster than previously, perhaps because of > the more limited numbers (?) > > Proof on webcam ;-) > > Sean Oooh I see - This is like a slightly more nerdy version of big brother :-) ;-)

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Jim Kissel
Sean Miller wrote: >> You're all really old, I cant remember before my familys 486 with DOS >> 6.22 and win 3.11 for workgroups (I was born in 1992!!) lol I know >> my Mum had a computer before that, but I cant remember it - I found >> its dot matrix printer in the loft a while ago though. > >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam

2007-11-12 Thread Sean Miller
By the way, I received two Gutsy CDs in the post a couple of days ago... they seem to be shipping them out faster than previously, perhaps because of the more limited numbers (?) Proof on webcam ;-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Sean Miller
BBC Micro was a great machine... the ZX81 was somewhat more limited... don't get me wrong, it was my first home micro but it wasn't really up to any great programming challenges... the BBC was a class act, whatever Sir Clive might tell you. Some of my programming adventures on the BBC might still

[ubuntu-uk] java6 JDK documentation

2007-11-12 Thread Pascal Khoury
Hi Again I have installed ndisgtk, as I am missing the JDK documentation from the installer package, I was prompted to download jdk-6-doc.zip from http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/ I have downloaded the *.zip file, however I am told the file should be owned by root.root (what does this mea

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam

2007-11-12 Thread Kris Douglas
On 12/11/2007, andylockran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chris Rowson wrote: > >> Interesting you are asking about webcams, because I'm playing with camE > for > >> a local pub that (for some reason I can't fathom) wants a webcam in > their > >> bar. > >> > >> Currently recording my every move...

Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Pete Stean
I have the firefox plugin for xine, and helix player, and the .ram stream is working fine for me - you really don't want to clutter up your system with realplayer if you can possibly avoid it. Maybe its a problem with the codecs that you have (or probably don't have) installed on the system? Pete

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Kris Douglas
On 12/11/2007, Sean Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're all really old, I cant remember before my familys 486 with DOS > > 6.22 and win 3.11 for workgroups (I was born in 1992!!) lol I know > > my Mum had a computer before that, but I cant remember it - I found > > its dot matrix printer

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam

2007-11-12 Thread Sean Miller
> > > Mmm multiple monitors ! > and multiple keyboards :) No multiple monitors, just lots of different machines... 2 Ubuntu and 1 Windows, or 2 Windows and 1 Ubuntu depending on what it is I'm doing... (1 is dual boot)... ...when demonstrating websites to customers I tend to use Windows on

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Gaurav Patel
On 12/11/2007, Sean Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That said, no programmer should have been denied the privilege to program > for 80x22 vt220 green screens... amazing how much wasted space there is > these days... we used every single inch of those screens... > > Sean More like every single

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam

2007-11-12 Thread andylockran
Chris Rowson wrote: >> Interesting you are asking about webcams, because I'm playing with camE for >> a local pub that (for some reason I can't fathom) wants a webcam in their >> bar. >> >> Currently recording my every move... http://seanmiller.net/webcam >> >> Sean >> > > Mmm multiple mon

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam

2007-11-12 Thread Chris Rowson
> Interesting you are asking about webcams, because I'm playing with camE for > a local pub that (for some reason I can't fathom) wants a webcam in their > bar. > > Currently recording my every move... http://seanmiller.net/webcam > > Sean Mmm multiple monitors ! Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ub

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam

2007-11-12 Thread Sean Miller
Interesting you are asking about webcams, because I'm playing with camE for a local pub that (for some reason I can't fathom) wants a webcam in their bar. Currently recording my every move... http://seanmiller.net/webcam Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinf

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Sean Miller
> > You're all really old, I cant remember before my familys 486 with DOS > 6.22 and win 3.11 for workgroups (I was born in 1992!!) lol I know > my Mum had a computer before that, but I cant remember it - I found > its dot matrix printer in the loft a while ago though. My daughter was born in 1

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam

2007-11-12 Thread Kris Douglas
On 12/11/2007, Alan Pope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Pascal, > > On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 15:38 +, Pascal Khoury wrote: > > Is there a good webcam software to interact with msn hotmail users? I > > don't think you can do that using Pidgin.. > > > > amsn can do this. > > Cheers, > Al. > > > -

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread James Grabham
You're all really old, I cant remember before my familys 486 with DOS 6.22 and win 3.11 for workgroups (I was born in 1992!!) lol I know my Mum had a computer before that, but I cant remember it - I found its dot matrix printer in the loft a while ago though. On Nov 12, 2007 3:16 PM, Greg K Nich

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Webcam

2007-11-12 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Pascal, On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 15:38 +, Pascal Khoury wrote: > Is there a good webcam software to interact with msn hotmail users? I > don't think you can do that using Pidgin.. > amsn can do this. Cheers, Al. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- ubunt

[ubuntu-uk] Webcam

2007-11-12 Thread Pascal Khoury
Hi All Is there a good webcam software to interact with msn hotmail users? I don't think you can do that using Pidgin.. Many Thanks Pascal ___ Want ideas for reducing your carbon footprint? Visit Yahoo! For Good http://uk.promo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Greg K Nicholson
norman: > I remember > trying to get to grips with programming in Basic and the difficulty I > had in accepting that you could have a line which read 'Let n = 2' and > then, a little further on,'Let n = 10'. In algebra if I wrote n = 2 then > that was that, it didn't change half way through solving

Re: [ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread norman
> > These youngsters, eh? When I started in IT greenscreen was cutting > > edge, lol ;-) > > > > My first PC had a mono green text only MDA "video card". I had to > _upgrade_ to a Hercules graphics card. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monochrome_Display_Adapter > http://en.wikipedia.org/wik

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try to help............ SATA Hdd Problem.

2007-11-12 Thread Daniel Lamb
I feel like a baby. Lol Daniel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony Arnold Sent: 12 November 2007 13:43 To: British Ubuntu Talk Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try to help SATA Hdd Problem. Sean M

[ubuntu-uk] memory lane, was: Please can someone look at this and try to help

2007-11-12 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 13:36 +, Sean Miller wrote: > These youngsters, eh? When I started in IT greenscreen was cutting > edge, lol ;-) > My first PC had a mono green text only MDA "video card". I had to _upgrade_ to a Hercules graphics card. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monochrome_Disp

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try to help............ SATA Hdd Problem.

2007-11-12 Thread Tony Arnold
Sean Miller wrote: > On 11/12/07, *Tony Arnold* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > Yes, whereas my great grandfather always swears by Altavista... ;-) > > > > > > > > Altavista is just a rebranded yahoo search. > > Altavista came first, I think

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try to help............ SATA Hdd Problem.

2007-11-12 Thread Sean Miller
On 11/12/07, Tony Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes, whereas my great grandfather always swears by Altavista... ;-) > > > > > > > > Altavista is just a rebranded yahoo search. > > Altavista came first, I think. It was originally set up by Digital (DEC, > now HP via Compaq). I guess it was

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try to help............ SATA Hdd Problem.

2007-11-12 Thread Tony Arnold
Kris, Kris Douglas wrote: > > > On 12/11/2007, *Sean Miller* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > > > Yes, whereas my great grandfather always swears by Altavista... ;-) > > > > Altavista is just a rebranded yahoo search. Altavista came first, I think. It was

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try to help............ SATA Hdd Problem.

2007-11-12 Thread Kris Douglas
On 12/11/2007, Sean Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Yes, whereas my great grandfather always swears by Altavista... ;-) > > > Altavista is just a rebranded yahoo search. -- Kris Douglas Softdel Limited Hosting Services Web: www.softdel.net Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- u

Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Kris Douglas
On 12/11/2007, Stephen Drake <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:50 +, Kris Marsh wrote: > > On Nov 12, 2007 10:45 AM, Greg K Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sean Miller: > > > > I'm sure it's all working for me in mplayer... unless it's something > > > > else you

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try to help............ SATA Hdd Problem.

2007-11-12 Thread Sean Miller
> > Perhaps the age of the person involved also comes into it. For example, > I have a nine year old granddaughter who on being confronted with a > problem by me usually tells me to use Google. Yes, whereas my great grandfather always swears by Altavista... ;-) Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.co

Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Stephen Drake
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:50 +, Kris Marsh wrote: > On Nov 12, 2007 10:45 AM, Greg K Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Sean Miller: > > > I'm sure it's all working for me in mplayer... unless it's something > > > else you're referring to... the BBC Website Realaudio streams? > > > > > > S

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try to help............ SATA Hdd Problem.

2007-11-12 Thread norman
> >> > >> > >> Hope this helps, and in future remember...google is your friend! :o) > >> > >> Matt. > >> > > > > N3m3sis, I haven't replied as I too, have not known what the problem is. > > > > Matt: that sounded awfully like RTFM to me (May just be me...) Some > > people aren't as used to goo

Re: [ubuntu-uk] SATA Hdd Problem.

2007-11-12 Thread Chris Fox
> Message: 3 > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 11:41:37 + > From: "Sean Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try to > help SATA Hdd Problem. > To: "British Ubuntu Talk" > There is an implication in your posting, Rohan, that people

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try to help............ SATA Hdd Problem.

2007-11-12 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Quoting Kirrus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > - "Matthew Macdonald-Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >> Hope this helps, and in future remember...google is your friend! :o) >> >> Matt. >> > > N3m3sis, I haven't replied as I too, have not known what the problem is. > > Matt: that sounded

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try to help............ SATA Hdd Problem.

2007-11-12 Thread Kirrus
Hi, - "Matthew Macdonald-Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Hope this helps, and in future remember...google is your friend! :o) > > Matt. > N3m3sis, I haven't replied as I too, have not known what the problem is. Matt: that sounded awfully like RTFM to me (May just be me...) Some

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try to help............ SATA Hdd Problem.

2007-11-12 Thread Sean Miller
> > I'm am/was quite technically adept when it came to the windows OS, not so > when it comes to Ubuntu linux, hence I ask for help from the people I think > should be able to help me. > There is an implication in your posting, Rohan, that people like Alan have somehow failed you... this is not te

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try to help............ SATA Hdd Problem.

2007-11-12 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Quoting Rohan Omard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Mike > > Thank you for your suggestion , however the problem that I have > Does concern a pci Sata controller, to whit; The Highpoint 1540 4 > port Sata controller. I too have 2 onboard Sata controllers, both > are in use, hence the use of

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try to help............ SATA Hdd Problem.

2007-11-12 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Rohan, On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 11:21 +, Rohan Omard wrote: > As for what you call name dropping, I have no intention of "dropping > names" as you call it. > Rather, I'm quite disappointed that I actually met them and that they > seemed quite genuine > about trying to help, yet when I posted

[ubuntu-uk] Installing RealPlayer in Gutsy (Re: RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy)

2007-11-12 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Kris Marsh: > Try: > > mplayer -playlist > http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/n24/bb/rm/video/news24_bb.ram Aha — that gives me the *sound*, but not the video. Running that and then pressing Ctrl+C to stop it gives this: http://pastebin.ubuntu-uk.org/484 in the terminal. In any case, I th

Re: [ubuntu-uk] lack of command-line installation...

2007-11-12 Thread Alan Pope
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:52 +, Sean Miller wrote: > Thoughts? > As well as the suggestion of using the alternate CD you can also use the Live CD with an option to not boot to a live environment, but only boot to X and the Ubiquity installer. This saves some memory as you'd imagine. The o

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try tohelp............ SATA Hdd Problem.

2007-11-12 Thread Daniel Lamb
How about trying it on the onboard sata controller? Can you do that? remove a device and plug it in? Also is it a cheap or obscure sata card? is it maybe not full supported by ubuntu? I had a perc controller on a dell server which was similar, but that was with 6.06, to be honest i ended up ju

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Please can someone look at this and try to help............ SATA Hdd Problem.

2007-11-12 Thread Rohan Omard
"I've told you why... it's the updated NTFS driver that comes with Gutsy... if you want read-only then use the old driver... if you want read/write then resolve the issues of the improper dismount... But STOP NAME DROPPING... it's driving me mad... Arrrggghhh Sean"

Re: [ubuntu-uk] lack of command-line installation...

2007-11-12 Thread Matthew Macdonald-Wallace
Quoting Sean Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > When I have to install Ubuntu on "challenged" boxes (ie. those with limited > memory) I do miss the old Install CD or, indeeed, just an "Install" option > on the grub menu that could avoid having to boot into the Live CD which is, > by definition, rather

Re: [ubuntu-uk] lack of command-line installation...

2007-11-12 Thread Dave Morley
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:52 +, Sean Miller wrote: > When I have to install Ubuntu on "challenged" boxes (ie. those with > limited memory) I do miss the old Install CD or, indeeed, just an > "Install" option on the grub menu that could avoid having to boot into > the Live CD which is, by defini

Re: [ubuntu-uk] lack of command-line installation...

2007-11-12 Thread Daniel Lamb
There is an alternative install cd which allows you to install without using a live cd. Works very well on low memory machines. Regards, Daniel _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Miller Sent: 12 November 2007 10:53 To: ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com Subj

Re: [ubuntu-uk] lack of command-line installation...

2007-11-12 Thread Philip Newborough
On Nov 12, 2007 10:52 AM, Sean Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I have to install Ubuntu on "challenged" boxes (ie. those with limited > memory) I do miss the old Install CD or, indeeed, just an "Install" option > on the grub menu that could avoid having to boot into the Live CD which is, >

[ubuntu-uk] lack of command-line installation...

2007-11-12 Thread Sean Miller
When I have to install Ubuntu on "challenged" boxes (ie. those with limited memory) I do miss the old Install CD or, indeeed, just an "Install" option on the grub menu that could avoid having to boot into the Live CD which is, by definition, rather memory-hungry. Would it be so difficult to have a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Kris Marsh
On Nov 12, 2007 10:45 AM, Greg K Nicholson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Sean Miller: > > I'm sure it's all working for me in mplayer... unless it's something > > else you're referring to... the BBC Website Realaudio streams? > > > > Sean > > > > The stream I'm trying is > http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa

Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Sean Miller: > I'm sure it's all working for me in mplayer... unless it's something > else you're referring to... the BBC Website Realaudio streams? > > Sean > The stream I'm trying is http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/tvseq/n24/bb/rm/video/news24_bb.ram which redirects to an RTSP stream. Tha

Re: [ubuntu-uk] RealMedia streams (rtsp:) in Gutsy

2007-11-12 Thread Kris Marsh
On Nov 12, 2007 10:16 AM, Sean Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm sure it's all working for me in mplayer... unless it's something else > you're referring to... the BBC Website Realaudio streams? > > Sean > -- > ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk >

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Xmas Dinner and Pub evening

2007-11-12 Thread Sean Miller
Sounds good if I can work out the logistics... I guess train from Castle Cary to Reading would be practical? Sean -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Xmas Dinner and Pub evening

2007-11-12 Thread Alan Pope
Hi Dave, On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 10:21 +, Dave Walker wrote: > It has been discussed over the last few weeks on IRC to have a dinner > and pub evening around the festive Xmas time. > Thanks for organising this. > If you are interested, please reply to this thread - or send me an > offlist ema

[ubuntu-uk] Xmas Dinner and Pub evening

2007-11-12 Thread Dave Walker
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, It has been discussed over the last few weeks on IRC to have a dinner and pub evening around the festive Xmas time. In-line with British traditional food, it was suggested to be an Indian Restaurant :) . One person recommended a restaurant i

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Games with a Christmas theme

2007-11-12 Thread Rob Beard
Dianne Reuby wrote: > > On Sun, 2007-11-11 at 16:32 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: >> Dianne Reuby wrote: >>> On Sat, 2007-11-10 at 23:33 +, Tony Arnold wrote: There seems to be at least two places that thus could be: http://www.museum-of-computing.org.uk/ at the University o

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