Re: [ubuntu-uk] FW: Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread TheVeech
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 21:03 +0100, Ian Pascoe wrote: > OK, we've had lots of ideas and some quite warm debate, and a secret > need to > find out about the Veeches mate's girl friend (!) You ARE going to get me into trouble! > but what and where do we > go from here? Or is there still plenty to

[ubuntu-uk] FW: Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread Ian Pascoe
Whoa there guys, get off your horse and drink your Got to be careful here that we don't shoot our own feet. Firstly, I agree with all the potential hang ups about using the term "free" to Joe Public. So we use another phrase. My preference is FOS as opposed to Open Source, only because it's qu

[ubuntu-uk] An Introduction

2007-05-04 Thread Ian Pascoe
Sorry all, just realised I pounced into life on this list without doing the normal hi there! post. So here it is. Hi there! I'm not an IT professional and was only introduced to Linux by a fellow commuter on the train into Birmingham who said why not and come and see us, and if you like it you c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread Philip Wyett
On 04/05/07, David Neil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One thing to note here, and I only mention it because your post has reminded > me, MAC address changes don't seem to matter: I have quite happily changed > routers connected to my cable modem without any need to contact NTL. > The NTL regi

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread David Neil
Sorry - should have kept reading Same point was made by Dominic Forrest --Dave Neil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 04/05/2007 20:03:50: > > > > > One thing to note here, and I only mention it because your post > has reminded > > me, MAC address changes don't seem to matter: I have qui

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread David Neil
> > One thing to note here, and I only mention it because your post has reminded > me, MAC address changes don't seem to matter: I have quite happily changed > routers connected to my cable modem without any need to contact NTL. > The NTL registration only covers registering the modems MAC a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread Jim Kissel
Mark Harrison wrote: > Jim, > > You make a lot of good points. > > 1: Your list of extra applications that users want that I'd not come up > with is excellent, and I'd certainly want to include it. > > 2: Your observations about the "ongoing licencing cost of carrying on > with the copy of W

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Feisty default package list

2007-05-04 Thread Philip Wyett
On 04/05/07, Alec Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 14:56 +0100, Michael Erskine wrote: > I can't seem to find a list of packages installed by default on Feisty. Could > someone point me at one? It's ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-desktop I think -- Alec Wright M: 07749884274

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Feisty default package list

2007-05-04 Thread Alec Wright
On Fri, 2007-05-04 at 14:56 +0100, Michael Erskine wrote: > I can't seem to find a list of packages installed by default on Feisty. Could > someone point me at one? It's ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-desktop I think -- Alec Wright M: 07749884274 -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.c

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread Philip Wyett
On 04/05/07, Dominic Forrest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: The ntl service provided by the Set Top Box (i.e. using the Ethernet port in the STB) required that MAC addresses be registered. The ntl service provided using a separate, external cable modem did not. Dom Michael Erskine wrote: > On F

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread Dominic Forrest
The ntl service provided by the Set Top Box (i.e. using the Ethernet port in the STB) required that MAC addresses be registered. The ntl service provided using a separate, external cable modem did not. Dom Michael Erskine wrote: > On Friday 04 May 2007 13:17:21 James Tait wrote: > >> I've

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread TheVeech
Personally, I think there's something that everyone needs to do before they start talking up Linux. MS has a huge marketing warchest and it's marketing has been highly influential. We can talk to people till we're orange and brown in the face but, once they leave the conversation, they're vulnera

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Erskine
On Friday 04 May 2007 13:17:21 James Tait wrote: > I've documented the required process for both on LiveJournal (I can find > links if anyone's interested), but it boils down to this: when you first > connect your computer to the cable modem, you should get a private IP > address via DHCP.  You nee

[ubuntu-uk] Feisty default package list

2007-05-04 Thread Michael Erskine
I can't seem to find a list of packages installed by default on Feisty. Could someone point me at one? Regards, Michael Erskine. -- And on the eighth day, we bulldozed it. ___ To help you stay safe and secure online, we

[ubuntu-uk] Ubuntu Mobile

2007-05-04 Thread Chris Rowson
Hmmm, this is interesting. Looks like Canonical has plans for Ubuntu on mobile devices http://www.ubuntu.com/employment#UMDEV Chris -- ubuntu-uk@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-uk https://wiki.kubuntu.org/UKTeam/

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread James Tait
Jim Kissel wrote: > Please educate me as to what software NTL/cable broadband supplies that > is Windows only. While I will agree, you need to be a little bit more > independent/knowledgeable, I cannot envisage needing and ISP supplied > software. I'm not sure what the current situation is, bu

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread Gregory Kirby
>. I am sure there must be other examples. > Exactly what is holding me back. Another area that is concerning me is linking up my Qtek mobile phone, which synchs with Outlook and runs on Windows M5. -- Gregory J Kirby MBA Residential letting Agent www.1sthome.co.uk (The "NO" fees to tenants ag

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread Mark Harrison
Jim, You make a lot of good points. 1: Your list of extra applications that users want that I'd not come up with is excellent, and I'd certainly want to include it. 2: Your observations about the "ongoing licencing cost of carrying on with the copy of Windows you already have doesn't take into

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread norman
I am one of those who has sat on the sidelines and read what many of you have had to say. I have used Ubuntu for nearly 3 years now and most, if not all, of the arguments put forward have been well rehearsed since the first version of Ubuntu became available. There was an attempt to compare the req

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread Robin Menneer
On 5/4/07, Jim Kissel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mark Harrison wrote: > Ian Pascoe wrote: >> One question that's been missed off all of this valuable discussions is: >> >> "Why should I try this Linux thingy?" >> > PROLOGUE - I'm going to be contentious. > > I ought to explain that TheVeech a

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread Robin Menneer
On 5/4/07, Mark Harrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ian Pascoe wrote: > One question that's been missed off all of this valuable discussions is: > > "Why should I try this Linux thingy?" > PROLOGUE - I'm going to be contentious. I ought to explain that TheVeech and I exchanged emails offlist l

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread Jim Kissel
Mark Harrison wrote: > Ian Pascoe wrote: >> One question that's been missed off all of this valuable discussions is: >> >> "Why should I try this Linux thingy?" >> > PROLOGUE - I'm going to be contentious. > > I ought to explain that TheVeech and I exchanged emails offlist last > night, in

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread Mark Harrison
Ian Pascoe wrote: > One question that's been missed off all of this valuable discussions is: > > "Why should I try this Linux thingy?" > PROLOGUE - I'm going to be contentious. I ought to explain that TheVeech and I exchanged emails offlist last night, in which we agreed that a bit of "violen

Re: [ubuntu-uk] Leaflets

2007-05-04 Thread Robin Menneer
On 5/3/07, Chris Rowson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I always find this a toughy. One problem I often encounter in my 20 something peer group is lack of support for gaming. For instance, as I write this, I'm setting up a computer with Feisty and trying to get Eve online working on it. That's one