[Ubuntu-tv] [Help] How to put my designs on Wiki?

Guys, I need a little help. I'm thinking about working on some UI designs with *pencil *tool on Firefox and putting the results on the Wiki's page for UbuntuTV Designs. How can I put my design on Ubuntu Wiki? Thanks -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tv Post to : ubuntu-tv@lists.

[Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Hi. I was thinking about Ubuntu TV after seeing Alan Bells thoughts. 1) The TV is also a Big Screen. I disagree with the idea that Ubuntu TV should only be TV. What I would like, is to have one TV-mode for actually watching TV, and another for an extra desktop thing. I think it would be nice

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] [Help] How to put my designs on Wiki?

On 28/11/11 19:01, Paulo Roberto de Oliveira Castro wrote: Guys, I need a little help. I'm thinking about working on some UI designs with /pencil /tool on Firefox and putting the results on the Wiki's page for UbuntuTV Designs. How can I put my design on Ubuntu Wiki? Thanks in short, put you

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Ubuntu TV being desktop and having a TV mode seems to defeat the purpose of TV, it would complicate the whole experience. Multiple accounts would be good, probably necessary when working with Ubuntu One. I don't think it should ask for login at startup though as it slows down getting to content (I

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

How about dropping in all together? Only lock certain parts, like x-rated movies and the time-grid part etc. No need to log in to watch recorded movies accessible for all ages or other content. Again, only logging in when you come to "dangerous" parts of the system for young kids. With metta, Chri

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Do a basic parental lock until someone logs in. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Chris wrote: > How about dropping in all together? Only lock certain parts, like x-rated > movies and the time-grid part etc. No need to log in to watch recorded > movies accessible for all ages or other content. >

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

What about taking a cue from existing set-top boxes (i.e. DirectTV)? Don't worry about user accounts at all (From an end-user perspective, and content-wise), and allow access to content below a certain maturity Level. Then, when the user tries to access restricted content (like an R-rated movie

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Callum Saunders wrote: > Do a basic parental lock until someone logs in. > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Chris wrote: >> >> How about dropping in all together? Only lock certain parts, like x-rated >> movies and the time-grid part etc. No need to log in to w

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

How else do we deal with managing Ubuntu One content? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Thomas Mashos wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Callum Saunders > wrote: > > Do a basic parental lock until someone logs in. > > > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:44 PM, Chris wrote: > >> > >> How about

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 28. nov. 2011 21:55, skrev Ian Santopietro: What about taking a cue from existing set-top boxes (i.e. DirectTV)? Don't worry about user accounts at all (From an end-user perspective, and content-wise), and allow access to content below a certain maturity Level. There are more reasons why

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Callum Saunders wrote: > How else do we deal with managing Ubuntu One content? > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Thomas Mashos wrote: >> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Callum Saunders >> wrote: >> > Do a basic parental lock until someone logs in. >> > >>

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Authenticate with a paired device, and use that to sign in to U1? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 14:12, Callum Saunders wrote: > How else do we deal with managing Ubuntu One content? > > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Thomas Mashos wrote: >> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:46 PM, Callum Saunders >> wr

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

> There are more reasons why I want to have different users. For instance, you> > should be able to pause whatever it is you're playing, go away, let others> > use the TV, and when you come back, you just press play. That is a good point, but there are better ways of managing content other than l

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 28. nov. 2011 21:55, skrev Ian Santopietro: >> >> What about taking a cue from existing set-top boxes (i.e. DirectTV)? Don't >> worry about user accounts at all (From an end-user perspective, and >> content-wise), and allow access t

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 28. nov. 2011 22:41, skrev Ian Santopietro: There are more reasons why I want to have different users. For instance, you> should be able to pause whatever it is you're playing, go away, let others> use the TV, and when you come back, you just press play. That is a good point, but there a

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Now we're talking. And when it's paired to such a device (e.g. a netbook) then you might use it as a desktop enlarger. But please make some storyboards, that way we have comparisons and makes it easier to collaborate the different ideas into 1. For how to make those storyboard, read here: https://

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 28. nov. 2011 22:48, skrev Thomas Mashos: I could see the big screen as an extension of the netbook, but that sounds like something solved via a plugin. As for the multiple user scenario, I think while it's a neat idea, it's a fringe use case. Synergy is a very simple and easy app. It's re

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On 11/28/2011 03:33 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote: Authenticate with a paired device, and use that to sign in to U1? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 14:12, Callum Saunders wrote: How else do we deal with managing Ubuntu One content? On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Thomas Mashos wrote: On Mon, Nov 28,

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 1:53 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 28. nov. 2011 22:48, skrev Thomas Mashos: >> >> I could see the big screen as an extension of the netbook, but that >> sounds like something solved via a plugin. As for the multiple user >> scenario, I think while it's a neat idea,

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Exactly. A family of products that work great on their own and even better together. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 9:55 PM, Ian Nicholson wrote: > On 11/28/2011 03:33 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote: > >> Authenticate with a paired device, and use that to sign in to U1? >> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 14:12,

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

I'm not going to argue with that; using a TV for more than video is in idea I already enjoy, and one that I would expect from a complete Ubuntu TV implementation. However, having two modes (One for TV and one fr a full desktop) is a bad idea. Instead, how about taking a hint from other Smart TV OSs

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 28. nov. 2011 22:50, skrev Chris: Now we're talking. And when it's paired to such a device (e.g. a netbook) then you might use it as a desktop enlarger. But please make some storyboards, that way we have comparisons and makes it easier to collaborate the different ideas into 1. It's ready

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 28. nov. 2011 22:57, skrev Ian Santopietro: I'm not going to argue with that; using a TV for more than video is in idea I already enjoy, and one that I would expect from a complete Ubuntu TV implementation. However, having two modes (One for TV and one fr a full desktop) is a bad idea. Instea

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

They wouldn't, necessarily, but some apps will be better after being reworked for a larger screen. LibreOffice is a great example. Facilities currently exist in GTK3 to implement different UIs for the same app through XML. On the other hand, most of the games currently available would work fine on

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On 28/11/11 20:55, Ian Santopietro wrote: What about taking a cue from existing set-top boxes (i.e. DirectTV)? Absolutely! A TV is used and viewed very differently from a desktop: you are further away from the screen, it uses a simplistic interface (remote), no keyboard or mouse, no touch. It

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Ian Santopietro wrote: > They wouldn't, necessarily, but some apps will be better after being > reworked for a larger screen. LibreOffice is a great example. > Facilities currently exist in GTK3 to implement different UIs for the > same app through XML. > > On the

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Bruno Girin wrote: > On 28/11/11 20:55, Ian Santopietro wrote: > > What about taking a cue from existing set-top boxes (i.e. DirectTV)? > > Absolutely! A TV is used and viewed very differently from a desktop: you are > further away from the screen, it uses a simpli

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 28. nov. 2011 22:55, skrev Thomas Mashos: Please walk me through a typical day in the live of this TV for a family of 4. Alright. 6AM. Parents get out of bed, do their morning stuff, makes coffee and switches on their TV to watch the morning news. Only the normal remote control is neede

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Yes. but wifi not bluetooth. Bluetooth has range resrictions and is a major battery hog, whereas most people will have wifi on in their homes anyway. It also means that all ubuntu devices in a home can be connected all the time as long as they are on the wifi. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:12 PM, Jo-

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 29. nov. 2011 00:15, skrev Callum Saunders: Yes. but wifi not bluetooth. Bluetooth has range resrictions and is a major battery hog, whereas most people will have wifi on in their homes anyway. It also means that all ubuntu devices in a home can be connected all the time as long as they are

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 28. nov. 2011 23:54, skrev Thomas Mashos: I'm not sure I understand the point of OpenOffice type apps on the big screen. Why do I want to look at a screen that is much farther away from me to see the data (which BTW you will need to blow up the font size to see it) when I can see the same da

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Bluetooth is slow as hell. Using Bluetooth would mean that a tablet or phone or laptop or whatever would have to have both bluetooth and wifi on, assuming they even have bluetooth capabilities. On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:17 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad < joerlend.schins...@gmail.com> wrote: > Den 29.

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 29. nov. 2011 00:23, skrev Callum Saunders: Bluetooth is slow as hell. Using Bluetooth would mean that a tablet or phone or laptop or whatever would have to have both bluetooth and wifi on, assuming they even have bluetooth capabilities. No, I'm talking about using the phone as a simple re

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 16:17, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 29. nov. 2011 00:15, skrev Callum Saunders: >> >> Yes. but wifi not bluetooth. Bluetooth has range resrictions and is a >> major battery hog, whereas most people will have wifi on in their homes >> anyway. It also means that all ubunt

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 29. nov. 2011 00:29, skrev Ian Santopietro: There shouldn't be more than one interface. Having two interfaces is inconsistent and confusing. I will never purchase a computer with a big screen which cannot be used for anything other than watching videos. Jo-Erlend Schinstad -- Mailing li

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

its not a computer with a big screen it's a TV!! On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad < joerlend.schins...@gmail.com> wrote: > Den 29. nov. 2011 00:29, skrev Ian Santopietro: > > There shouldn't be more than one interface. Having two interfaces is >> inconsistent and confusing.

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 29. nov. 2011 00:44, skrev Callum Saunders: its not a computer with a big screen it's a TV!! Oh, ok. I thought it was intended to be used om OMAP4s and similar. They're perfectly capable of providing a complete PC experience. I actually used my OMAP3 like that for a little while and that'

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On 11/28/2011 04:54 PM, Thomas Mashos wrote: To the point of "Family of products working together". Please don't make added functionality come from owning other Ubuntu branded devices. Make an Android app, IOS app, Windows app, OSX app, etc. If I wanted to have vendor lock in I would own Apple

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

I never said it should only be used for viewing videos. But, TVs are consumption devices, and should be treated as such. Think of it as a large tablet. Tablets are great devices for watching videos, surfing the internet, reading email, IM, and games. They also work great for photo galleries, and l

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:22 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 28. nov. 2011 23:54, skrev Thomas Mashos: >> >> I'm not sure I understand the point of OpenOffice type apps on the big >> screen. Why do I want to look at a screen that is much farther away >> from me to see the data (which BTW you

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:09 PM, Ian Nicholson wrote: > On 11/28/2011 04:54 PM, Thomas Mashos wrote: >> >> To the point of "Family of products working together". Please don't make >> added functionality come from owning other Ubuntu branded devices. Make an >> Android app, IOS app, Windows app, OS

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 29. nov. 2011 01:10, skrev Ian Santopietro: I never said it should only be used for viewing videos. But, TVs are consumption devices, and should be treated as such. Think of it as a large tablet. Tablets are great devices for watching videos, surfing the internet, reading email, IM, and game

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 29. nov. 2011 01:15, skrev Thomas Mashos: Simple, because I have to build it. Working on the Mythbuntu team for the last four years has shown that there are far more dreamers than there are programmers. I'm not spending my time on something I don't think is necessary. This is why I proposed

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 29. nov. 2011 01:15, skrev Thomas Mashos: >> >> Simple, because I have to build it. Working on the Mythbuntu team for the >> last four years has shown that there are far more dreamers than there are >> programmers. I'm not spending

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 29. nov. 2011 01:30, skrev Thomas Mashos: Someone has to build the option to switch to desktop mode ;) Well... Yes, that is true. That will be far easier than to build Ubuntu Desktop as a plugin, though. :) Jo-Erlend Schinstad -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-tv Post to

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:32 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 29. nov. 2011 01:30, skrev Thomas Mashos: >> >> Someone has to build the option to switch to desktop mode ;) > > Well... Yes, that is true. That will be far easier than to build Ubuntu > Desktop as a plugin, though. :) > > Jo-Erlend

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

But then why have an Ubuntu TV at all then? Why not just take a desktop and hook it up to your TV? If that's what you'd like, then why bother with the TV mode at all? Instead, it sounds like your setup would work best with a full blown Ubuntu desktop installation, rather than a customized Ubuntu TV

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 29. nov. 2011 01:46, skrev Ian Santopietro: But then why have an Ubuntu TV at all then? Why not just take a desktop and hook it up to your TV? If that's what you'd like, then why bother with the TV mode at all? Instead, it sounds like your setup would work best with a full blown Ubuntu deskto

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 29. nov. 2011 01:46, skrev Ian Santopietro: >> >> But then why have an Ubuntu TV at all then? Why not just take a >> desktop and hook it up to your TV? If that's what you'd like, then why >> bother with the TV mode at all? Instead,

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Den 29. nov. 2011 02:38, skrev Thomas Mashos: While I agree that having all those features would be pretty neat, we need to make sure we don't over-complicate things for the end-user. Great, then we agree. My point is based on the fact that we have to provide the desktop in any case. I mean,

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

Additionally, that's a great argument for unity as well. Sent from my Palm PreOn Nov 28, 2011 20:03, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: Den 29. nov. 2011 02:38, skrev Thomas Mashos: > While I agree that having all those features would be pretty neat, we > need to make

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Jo-Erlend Schinstad wrote: > Den 29. nov. 2011 02:38, skrev Thomas Mashos: >> >> While I agree that having all those features would be pretty neat, we need >> to make sure we don't over-complicate things for the end-user. > > Great, then we agree. My point is based

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

. If you agree with all this, then you have to agree that the normal desktop Unity should be provided. No, I don't agree. Unity, yes. Full desktop Unity? No. Honestly, I don't see the point of discussing this. With what you're suggesting, Ubuntu is already set up to run fine on a TV. This is, qui

[Ubuntu-tv] Experiences with my Wiimote controlled Unity Couch-Potato-PC

Hi folks, as I read about this team at golem.de, I was really happy to find people who could be interested in some of my things I tested and did in the nearer past. First I wanna tell you something about my couch-potato-PC with Ubuntu 11.10 Unity on it and controlled by a wiimote. My next th

Re: [Ubuntu-tv] Some basic ideas for Ubuntu TV.

UbuntuTV should absolutely be as simple to use for watching video, listening to music, etc. as any TV or mobile device today. It should be simple to use, and the interface should be out of the way and work with a remote control. However, I think there is a lot of power and value added by allowing