[Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

2013-07-19 Thread Omar B .
Multi-window seems to becoming available on Android for tablets and mini-PCs: http://liliputing.com/2013/07/multi-window-support-coming-to-some-android-tablets-with-rockchip-cpus.html X There seems to be a lot of demand for this, specially in China and other places. Was wonde

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

2013-07-19 Thread Omar B .
>The tablet interface have the side view and personally I think that is good. >Anything more wouldn't be good. Well that mostly depends on the size of the tablet / touch screen. There are more and more big ones / hybrids selling as home computers: http://blog.laptopmag.com/5-reasons-large-screen-t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

2013-07-19 Thread Omar B .
>A 20" screen definitely qualifies for desktop mode. I don't think it would be >running tablet style at that point. Then, I wonder what would be the case study for the ASUS Transformer AiO. Just desktop mode? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hUPWgLXMBY http://www.asus.com/AllinOne_PCs/ASUS_Transfo

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

2013-07-20 Thread Omar B .
blet. On Jul 19, 2013 11:16 PM, "Omar B." wrote: >A 20" screen definitely qualifies for desktop mode. I don't think it would be >running tablet style at that point. Then, I wonder what would be the case study for the ASUS Transformer AiO. Just desktop mode? http://

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-window support ?

2013-07-20 Thread Omar B .
>On a large display, there is very rarely enough content to use the whole >screen. If you're using a 20" tablet, it's not for pleasure. It needs to use >multiple windows. This applies to the keyboard as well. The keyboard would be >too large to type on if you just stretched it out to a 20" scree

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-22 Thread Omar B .
Exactly, You CAN NOT get burned with this campaign, it has double $ back warranty. -The first $ back is if it doesn't reach the goal since it's all or nothing. -The second $ back is that can try the device for almost a month and if you don't like it, you can return it for a full refund: http://

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-23 Thread Omar B .
>I hope it will be selling not only through indiegogo. I want this phone, but I >will not found 830 USD till 21th of August it will be exclusive to backers. And I think this needs to be made more clear. However, I think people are also confused about the 600 and $830, there needs to be a bit more

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-23 Thread Omar B .
>So implementing possibilities to "buy" a smartphone with less specs isn't >compatible with the goal of this campaign.A little less specs Not being >compatible is your opinion.The only fact I see is that they set a goal and >would much prefer for it to be be reached. Am sure they have months or

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-23 Thread Omar B .
>Stores and resellers were not purchasing from indiegogo yesterday. There might >have been one or two, but that's simply not what happened. This whole campaign >is all about individuals buying these phones. I don't want to see this >campaign fail anymore than you do. People will either buy them

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-23 Thread Omar B .
even though they weren't being recorded. The rates were constant. There was no bulk purchase done by any one company. If you would like to review my numbers, I can send you the spreadsheet. On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Omar B. wrote: >Stores and resellers were not purchas

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-24 Thread Omar B .
Hmm, am not understanding the new perks added: $625 (1250 available)$675 (1250 available)$725 (1250 available) They're all the same so am kinda confused. I think we need more creativity and "differentiation". More perk ideas / niches: - T-shirts! Limited time EDGE, Saucy, etc.!! - 1 to 2 year 10

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-24 Thread Omar B .
someone posted a couple of more ideas: https://opensas.wordpress.com/2013/07/24/a-few-ideas-to-foster-ubuntu-edge-founding/ -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchp

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-24 Thread Omar B .
So, ARM or Intel ? http://www.theverge.com/2013/5/6/4306956/intel-silvermont-atom- -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https:/

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-07-25 Thread Omar B .
>Fan-equipped phone? :^) Hehe, but intel showed some fanless: http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/23/4549872/intel-teases-a-new-haswell-processor-for-thin-potentially-fanless -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-08-03 Thread Omar B .
Ubuntu Edge will miss $32m crowdfunding target if it keeps this pace, say researchers. "Compared to the average Kickstarter, we can see that the Ubuntu Edge rose more sharply in the beginning and flatlined harder when entering the 'Dead Zone'," Waddell and Ligtenberg write. "This is further evi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (constructive criticism/advice on Canonical's approach)

2013-08-04 Thread Omar B .
main problems with the cius: "unremarkable and overpriced" http://www.pcworld.com/article/256307/r_i_p_cisco_cius_another_tablet_bites_the_dust.html In comparison Canonical addressed most of that:http://iloveubuntu.net/pictures_me/ubuntu%20edge%20comparison%20.png Anyway they haven't given up:h

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-08-05 Thread Omar B .
So from the S4 mini example a phone perk in the 6xx to 725 could look like this: -A not so powerful processor -A bit less ram -1 antenna -64gb hdd + some free online storage -Converged ubuntu (android optional; add like $25 more if you need this) ? >The whole point of this phone is for it to h

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-08-05 Thread Omar B .
>You're missing the point, Canonical expressed they are not planning to enter >the hardware market. Planning a low end device to raise money for a high end >device is exactly that. Offering the same device with a little less features or optimizations does't equal entering the hardware market. So

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-08-05 Thread Omar B .
>Yes. Shuttleworth has even said that the entire purpose of this campaign is to >judge if there's a market for super high end phones. Adding a mid range phone >just to make this campaign succeed does not measure the market appeal of the >superphones, and it doesn't make manufacturing those supe

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Edge (the Ubuntu handset)

2013-08-07 Thread Omar B .
Clearly this is Canonical's first crowdfunding attempt and they lacked the experience. They already let the MORALE and interest died. 2 weeks left and is now slowed down so much that will only get 1 or 2 M per week. So we will only see 2 to 4M more (maybe even 5M if ). They didn't even follow The

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Keyboard not showing up

2013-09-24 Thread Omar B .
LOL, hoping this doesn't become the standard :p this is the kind of bug that really bugs people and make them run away from a platform. Tapping a text box again to reinitialize the kb should be the only "trick"... :) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2013 21:22:53 +0500 From: omer.ak...@canonical.com To: gustavo

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] HP opens WebOS

2011-12-09 Thread Omar B .
there are mixed feelings: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAyNTc http://www.zdnet.com/news/webos-is-doomed-to-fail/6332869 > From: abra...@gmail.com > Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 14:18:34 -0600 > To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] HP opens WebOS > > Wh

[Ubuntu-phone] The best opportunity for the ubuntu multidevice concept will be on hybrid devices

2011-12-09 Thread Omar B .
We have now the following hybrids: Asus transformer (laptop / tablet hybrid) Motorola atrix (phone / desktop / laptop / tv-media center); The jack of all trades. And in the possible future: To compete, Apple may be working on hybrid mobile devices with ios and full osx included (ipod/iphone th

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] The best opportunity for the ubuntu multidevice concept will be on hybrid devices

2011-12-10 Thread Omar B .
trackpad input rather than a touch input. On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 5:33 AM, Omar B. wrote: We have now the following hybrids: Asus transformer (laptop / tablet hybrid) Motorola atrix (phone / desktop / laptop / tv-media center); The jack of all trades. And in the possible future:

[Ubuntu-phone] Interesting Android Shell

2011-12-24 Thread Omar B .
First Off Merry Xmas!! :-} Second, i thought this android shell was very interesting and in some areas feels similar to how an ubuntu phone UI would be, worth checking out: http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/12/tsf-shell-pro-3d-android-launcher-could.html

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Interesting Android Shell

2011-12-24 Thread Omar B .
screen in length is clumsy. A better option should be found for that problem than the horrendous folding that we currently have on Ubuntu desktop. Enjoy your holidays, everyone :) On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Omar B. wrote: First Off Merry Xmas!! :-} Second, i thought this and

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Apps and Marketing.

2012-01-09 Thread Omar B .
Late game? I think opportunities will always arise, is a matter of how well you can predict, serve that hidden demand and be better than the competition (or give people what they want before they know it): I think these 2 vids explain it nicely: http://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_great_l

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] UI and unity

2012-02-02 Thread Omar B .
yes, seen some great mockups lately. here is another cool mockup: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=146833 the full image was uploaded some time ago to megaupload (lol...) but someone was able to save it: http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=es&ie=UTF

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Phone

2012-07-30 Thread Omar B .
I don't believe one has been announced yet. there havent been much news yet on the status of the project. Hopefully someone has more details ? > Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 18:26:17 +0300 > From: n.shatok...@gmail.com > To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Phone > >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Working with alternate software on Desktop mode.

2013-03-06 Thread Omar B .
I think that should be one of the goals, once desktop mode is ready and the app gets compiled. Date: Wed, 6 Mar 2013 10:22:22 + From: micet2004-li...@yahoo.de To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] Working with alternate software on Desktop mode. A

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to enable Mouse Cursor?

2013-03-15 Thread Omar B .
But I assume that's where the convergence comes in. when you add a mouse / keyboard , I think you're also suppose to hook it up to a monitor/tv ? then you want the desktop mode where you should also be able to access most phone/tablet apps along the desktop ones. But I think they might make avai

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Ubuntu-touch-coreapps] Why is there not a Browser or music app in the core app?

2013-03-16 Thread Omar B .
Since Ubuntu is aiming for a good converged experience, than the browser is definitely something that needs good syncing (open tabs and other user stuff) between when mobile and when docked to desktop. How do you think you can do this ? Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 23:10:09 + From: matzi...@gmail

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] SWYPE KeyBoard

2013-03-24 Thread Omar B .
Also would be cool to see this new type of minimum size keyboard (The Minuum Keyboard Project): http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-minuum-keyboard-project/ and quoted from their page: "We can also help others put who want to put Minuum on touchscreen devices using other operating systems (for

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Why the left?

2013-03-25 Thread Omar B .
in the uds they mentioned they want to give options for left handed users and also to the Arabic way of doing things Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 22:15:04 +0200 From: matzi...@gmail.com To: odami...@linux.com CC: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net; clayton.spi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [D

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] or WebKit ?

2013-04-06 Thread Omar B .
that's not a bad Question, specially since it's still early and the u-touch team wants as good browser experience as possible with a modern roadmap and is future-proof. Also here is a Q&A: http://thenextweb.com/google/2013/04/04/googles-blink-qa-new-rendering-engine-will-replace-webkit-on-all-pl

[Ubuntu-phone] What App for video-chats ?

2013-04-08 Thread Omar B .
In the original ubuntu-touch videos we saw a demo of video-chat and then side-stage.X I assume this video app is not real. I also don't believe we will get Skype or google talk plugin any time soon. So how about getting alternatives on board or developing their own solution?

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] What App for video-chats ?

2013-04-08 Thread Omar B .
native for video chat for both Skype and gtalk. Like Ubuntu use to simply provide pre installed applications (gwibber was one). So slight look and feel change to it should make it integrated application. Regards Jskandhari Sent from my Motorola RAZR XT912 4G LTE DROID "Omar B.&q

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Desktop mode, convergence and laptop docks

2013-05-04 Thread Omar B .
can innovate and improve upon. Regards, Omar B. From: pat...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 06:11:08 -0300 To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] Desktop mode, convergence and laptop docks Hello all, I am quite curious about the current state of "Desktop Mode"

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Can Ubuntu learn from iOS app store prices?

2013-05-07 Thread Omar B .
time limits reminds me of the shareware days, but I know is kinda necessary for some type of apps. donations would be something good too since the platform is starting out and also maybe for the FOSS that will be available to kickstart the platform, if it becomes as popular as the desktop with t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Deluge touch UI.

2013-05-09 Thread Omar B .
There are a few BT clients that already have QT interfaces so maybe they would be a bit easier to modify or port for ubuntu touch. see here: http://alinuxblog.wordpress.com/2010/09/14/top-10-torrent-clients-for-linux/ of course not ruling out deluge but not sure how hard compared to the others it

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Deluge touch UI.

2013-05-09 Thread Omar B .
Also thinking about it, Transmission-QT might be a good choice since it will probably come default on ubuntu-desktop-qt then with the convergence you can switch from mobile to desktop (or viceversa) and still have the same client, folders, downloads, etc. Also the UI is one of the simplest imo.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Deluge touch UI.

2013-05-09 Thread Omar B .
uld be nice with more alternatives and I'd like to create a ui > for deluge. I just need some help with it. > > I've also mailed the Devs in deluge mail list. > > Cheers, > Daniel > > Den 9 maj 2013 16:47 skrev "Omar B." : > >> Also thin

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Deluge touch UI.

2013-05-09 Thread Omar B .
I want to start from scratch with this, but I'm new to JSON and Xmlrpc and I don't even know how to authenticate to get the data needed, haha. Den 9 maj 2013 22:55 skrev "Omar B." : I think QT5 already has support for both desktop and touch. Also maybe with the ubuntu-sdk

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Deluge touch UI.

2013-05-12 Thread Omar B .
ng JSON, Web JSON or rpc-xml. Neither, which I > understand how to use. > > Vänlig hälsning / Yours sincerely, > Daniel Holm > IT Consultant > Web Developer > Student > d.hol...@gmail.com > http://www.danielholm.se > > Den fre 10 maj 2013 01:06:34 skr

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Music application demo.

2013-05-14 Thread Omar B .
hey nice work ! add it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Collection just needs testers, feedback and polish with time :) going to attend UDS now:http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/ Cheers! > Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 14:58:59 +0200 > From: d.hol...@gmail.com > To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ubuntu touch for x86 tablet?

2013-05-14 Thread Omar B .
Also the fonepad is using intel x86 http://pocketnow.com/2013/05/02/asus-fonepad-review they becoming more common.-- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Contributing to UnityNext

2013-05-16 Thread Omar B .
hmm, there was an uds session about this: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1305/meeting/21707/community-1305-touch-and-unity-dev-onramp/ So I guess they need to make it easier. From: boy...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 09:37:28 +0800 To: ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Subject: [Ubuntu-phone] Con

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Call for help with MusicApp.

2013-05-22 Thread Omar B .
Hey guys about the future dev of an ubuntu touch music app, here are some cool ideas and many already done mockups which could be useful and serve as kind of a blue-print or roadmap: http://lucasromerodb.blogspot.com.ar/2013/05/music-app-for-ubuntu-touch.html (am not the author but he would lik

[Ubuntu-phone] New mobile and tablet features for win8.1 preview

2013-05-30 Thread Omar B .
X Early peek of features: http://liliputing.com/2013/05/microsoft-provides-an-early-peek-at-windows-8-1.html Devs whom may also be working on similar features for u-touch can be able to compare. Cheers! P.S. Even if we marked bug#1 they don't want us to forget them so easil

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ubuntu touch for x86 tablet?

2013-05-31 Thread Omar B .
Is all about screen size and peripherals. without a mouse/KB why would you want to use mouse/kb apps on a touchscreen ? if android can work on x86, why can't u-touch ? why give them also that market to themselves ? Date: Fri, 31 May 2013 20:59:11 +0100 From: ryant...@gmail.com To: shanekpi...@gma

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] New mobile and tablet features for win8.1 preview

2013-06-05 Thread Omar B .
also in Android to some limited extent)? Zisu Andrei On 30 May 2013 17:13, Omar B. wrote: X Early peek of features: http://liliputing.com/2013/05/microsoft-provides-an-early-peek-at-windows-8-1.html Devs whom may also be working on similar features for u-touch c

[Ubuntu-phone] Facts About X vs. Wayland

2013-06-07 Thread Omar B .
New article and insights about The failings of X, common misconceptions and what new display servers (like WL or Mir) can do to avoid re-creating most of the problems. http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=18763X Cheers. -- Mailing li

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Card style multitasking

2013-06-10 Thread Omar B .
"card style" probably resembles ALT + TAB in the desktop. So I don't believe is a bad idea. Anyway the "Apps lens" shows some of the running apps as you can see here: http://youtu.be/Q566IGyVB0o?t=6m39s So I don't know if that might be an equivalent. Would be cool to just "swipe up" to close them.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Possible Budget Ubuntu phone

2013-06-12 Thread Omar B .
I recently had a phone with those specs and android 4.1 The worst thing really is the 512mb of ram. Barely could use apps and calls dropped a lot. It was barely usable and had to purchase a better phone. I do not recommend anything less than 1gb of ram for Android Jelly bean even if the cpu is no

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [Design] Page stack back gesture

2013-06-13 Thread Omar B .
Some apps don't have a problem with users going "back". For example the *Friends* app shows both its Breadcrumbs and the bottom toolbar by default: http://youtu.be/Q566IGyVB0o?t=8m36s Apps should probably decide if they want to show these toolbars by default (or when one goes deeper in the stack

[Ubuntu-phone] Web video and voice calls? WebRTC?

2013-06-27 Thread Omar B .
Just wondering what are the plans for video chat? There seems to be a lot of emphasis of this feature in the "Ubuntu Tablet video": http://youtu.be/h384z7Ph0gU?t=1m40sX Many are being led to think that this is a core feature or that's working already but I suppose it was j

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Voice Recognition

2013-06-27 Thread Omar B .
Thanks to 100 scopes project, voice searches / recognition should become the next logical step. You can see some comparisons of what's available in other platforms: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aAwUdhxzmF4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QImeZzFvHLI --

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [design] [development] Some thoughts about Ubuntu touch on the Nexus 10

2013-07-08 Thread Omar B .
Good feedback. A new phase of "dogfooding" core apps has begun for everyone involved (users and devs). You can see the details here and how to report those problems you encountered (in case they're not reported yet): http://www.jonobacon.org/2013/07/05/dogfoodable-core-apps/ I think there's stil

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Porting to generic brand tablets

2013-07-14 Thread Omar B .
There's also rockchip opening up: http://www.cnx-software.com/2013/07/12/linux-rockchip-developers-community-up-rockchip-development-boards-coming-soon/ and one product that uses it (apart from all those mini android PCs like the MK808 or MK908), is the Hp slate 7: http://liliputing.com/2013/07/