Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Audio problems

2014-03-20 Thread zhangchao
>One possible way would be to use the pulseaudio droid elements that >Mer uses (https://github.com/mer-hybris/multimedia-pulseaudio-modules-droid), >as that is compatible with android hal (card, sink and source), but >not something I tried yet. > >Will try to get some time next week to investigat

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Selene Scriven
* Didier Roche wrote: > #246: > ... Just a short note about today's images. Image 247 had a small regression which broke thumbnails (in the video carousel, possibly elsewhere too). We got a fix tested from silo though, and the fix seems to be included in image 248. I've also noticed that ou

[Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Open Week - Volunteer Needed!

2014-03-20 Thread José Antonio Rey
Hey, guys! The Ubuntu Classroom team has started organizing Open Week , a series of online classes to welcome newcomers to the Community who want to get involved. We basically have different people from various teams explain what they do on their team, and h

[Ubuntu-phone] Chinese input method in Ubuntu Touch

2014-03-20 Thread zhangchao
Hi all,I have not found how to input Chinese on Ubuntu Touch. Are there Chinese input method in Ubuntu Touch now? Or have plans in the input method? If not, My team will do it:) Where can I find Related information of the Ubuntu Touch input method? Any help will be wellcome :) Regards, Ubuntu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Chinese input method in Ubuntu Touch

2014-03-20 Thread Joey Chan
Hi ZhangChao, This is Joey who gave a talk in app dev school in ChangSha weeks ago. Just choose the language in setting-app :) Feel free to ask me BR, Joey 2014-03-20 16:56 GMT+08:00 : > Hi all, > > I have not found how to input Chinese on Ubuntu Touch. > Are there Chinese input method in

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Michał Sawicz
On 20.03.2014 09:24, Selene Scriven wrote: > I've also noticed that our media player doesn't seem to support > very many video codecs. I had difficulty finding videos it can > actually play. This most likely isn't a regression, but it'd be > awfully nice if we could add in the full lavc / ffmp

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Chinese input method in Ubuntu Touch

2014-03-20 Thread Daniel Holbach
Hello ZhangChao, maybe this bit of information will help? http://developer.ubuntu.com/zh/apps/zh-tips/ Have a great day, Daniel On 20.03.2014 09:59, Joey Chan wrote: Hi ZhangChao, This is Joey who gave a talk in app dev school in ChangSha weeks ago. Just choose the language in setting-

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement
Le 19/03/2014 18:26, Didier Roche a écrit : * sudoku-app has still one test failure (Alan/Jean-Baptiste): A flaky AP test failure: http://ci.ubuntu.com/smokeng/trusty/touch/mako/245:20140318.2:20140304/7250/sudoku_app/919515/ -> this one is on the non blocker list as it wasn't part of the CI dash

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Timo Jyrinki
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 6:38 AM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote: >>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1293489 >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1294181 > > https://code.launchpad.net/~nskaggs/ubuntu-calendar-app/standalone-ap-for-1293489/+merge/211854 > https://co

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] DLNA/UPnP support

2014-03-20 Thread Timo Jyrinki
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Michał Sawicz wrote: > But for real, a network-share browser would be part of the content-hub > story, I imagine. You'd browse the remote shares and either share the > actual content to a music app (which would then actually be downloaded > to the device), or just

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Dave Morley
On 20/03/14 06:51, Didier Roche wrote: > Le 19/03/2014 23:54, Victor Thompson a écrit : >> Could we hold off on promoting the image until this bug is resolved as >> well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1292306 >> I believe it should be a blocker since it affects the lifecycle of the >> m

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Sergio Schvezov
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:11 AM, Dave Morley wrote: > On 20/03/14 06:51, Didier Roche wrote: >> Le 19/03/2014 23:54, Victor Thompson a écrit : >>> Could we hold off on promoting the image until this bug is resolved as >>> well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1292306 >>> I believe it sho

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On 03/20/2014 06:38 AM, Jean-Baptiste Lallement wrote: > Le 20/03/2014 12:11, Dave Morley a écrit : >> On 20/03/14 06:51, Didier Roche wrote: >>> Le 19/03/2014 23:54, Victor Thompson a écrit : Could we hold off on promoting the image until this bug is resolved as well: https://bugs.launch

[Ubuntu-phone] Core Apps update 2014-03-14

2014-03-20 Thread Alan Pope
Apologies for the late arrival of this mail, it's been languishing in my drafts for a few days. Core Apps update 2014-03-14 UDS Week! We had a bunch of sessions scheduled around core apps and community design:- http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1403/popey/meetings We also discussed the option of putt

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Jean-Baptiste Lallement
Le 20/03/2014 12:11, Dave Morley a écrit : On 20/03/14 06:51, Didier Roche wrote: Le 19/03/2014 23:54, Victor Thompson a écrit : Could we hold off on promoting the image until this bug is resolved as well: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1292306 I believe it should be a blocker since

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Rick Spencer
I agree with Jamie on this one. A music player on a phone or tablet is a pretty critical app, and this bug would make it not annoying, but unusable in most situations. I'd be surprised if we thought that the image was good enough to promote with such a regression, especially before we understand t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Paul Larson
Do we have a clearly documented "acceptance criteria" for promoting an image? It seems to me that would help avoid some of the ambiguity in situations like these. On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 8:26 AM, Rick Spencer wrote: > I agree with Jamie on this one. A music player on a phone or tablet is a > pr

[Ubuntu-phone] .click release procedures blocking in-archive development, for 4 weeks and counting. (python2 removal)

2014-03-20 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
At the moment phablet-tools upload is stuck in a silo, blocked by our inability to release no-change uploads of clicks. On 2014-02-24 revision 205 of calendar-app was merged into trunk, and not released into the archive. Fast-forward to today. 201 is still on the images and has known crasher bugs

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] .click release procedures blocking in-archive development, for 4 weeks and counting. (python2 removal)

2014-03-20 Thread Martin Albisetti
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > > I request to release calendar-app click 205 into the store and the > images. I am told that latest trunk of ubuntu-calendar-app (at > revision 212) is still not in a releasable state, has new features, > yet doesn't resolve existing

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Ricardo Salveti de Araujo
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michał Sawicz wrote: > On 20.03.2014 09:24, Selene Scriven wrote: >> I've also noticed that our media player doesn't seem to support >> very many video codecs. I had difficulty finding videos it can >> actually play. This most likely isn't a regression, but it'd

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] .click release procedures blocking in-archive development, for 4 weeks and counting. (python2 removal)

2014-03-20 Thread Dimitri John Ledkov
On 20 March 2014 14:55, Martin Albisetti wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: >> >> I request to release calendar-app click 205 into the store and the >> images. I am told that latest trunk of ubuntu-calendar-app (at >> revision 212) is still not in a releasable s

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Leo Arias
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Paul Larson wrote: > Do we have a clearly documented "acceptance criteria" for promoting an > image? It seems to me that would help avoid some of the ambiguity in > situations like these. > The acceptance criteria it's easy. IMO, if a bug affects one of the impor

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Jim Hodapp
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Ricardo Salveti de Araujo < ricardo.salv...@canonical.com> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 5:58 AM, Michał Sawicz > wrote: > > On 20.03.2014 09:24, Selene Scriven wrote: > >> I've also noticed that our media player doesn't seem to support > >> very many video co

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Initrd for X86

2014-03-20 Thread Corvus
Hi everybody again. Next problem. I fixed some things and now i get a bootlooping device :/. I changed cmdline to use break=bottom and i launch the commands manualy and all works ok but: exec run-init ${rootmnt} ${init} "$@" ${recovery:+--startup-event=recovery} <${rootmnt}/dev/console >${rootmn

[Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 20.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Didier Roche
Hi, 2 images since yesterday, we hoped for a promotion candidate, unfortunately, new blockers were found despite the 2 images passing 100% of AP tests (what we should celebrate still). There is a high chance for tomorrow to turn in DEFCON0 (no image promoted in the past 4 days) meaning that n

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Bill Filler
On 03/20/2014 12:30 PM, Leo Arias wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Paul Larson > mailto:paul.lar...@canonical.com>> wrote: > > Do we have a clearly documented "acceptance criteria" for promoting an > image? It seems to me that would help avoid some of the ambiguity in > situat

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 20.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Bill Filler
> * messaging app flaky test (Bill): > https://bugs.launchpad.net/messaging-app/+bug/1293610 > -> A fix has been released and will be in next image. Just an update on this: the messaging-app test fix won't land until the next image promotion (after the current one) as it depends on a bunch of oth

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Sergio Schvezov
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Leo Arias wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 7:34 AM, Paul Larson > wrote: >> >> Do we have a clearly documented "acceptance criteria" for promoting an >> image? It seems to me that would help avoid some of the ambiguity in >> situations like these. > > > The accep

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] .click release procedures blocking in-archive development, for 4 weeks and counting. (python2 removal)

2014-03-20 Thread Martin Albisetti
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:43 PM, Sergio Schvezov wrote: > > For auto uploads we also need the data to be parsed from the click on > upload instead of filling forms (version, arch, framework, changelog). This is in place now by default in the web ui, CCing in Ricardo so he can let you know what th

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le 20/03/2014 18:38, Bill Filler a écrit : we block changes from getting into our proposed images quite frequently which seems wrong because we are so concerned about promoting it to released Hey Bill, I agree with part of what you are saying. On one hand it feels like we are sometime too ca

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] .click release procedures blocking in-archive development, for 4 weeks and counting. (python2 removal)

2014-03-20 Thread Sergio Schvezov
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 1:12 PM, Dimitri John Ledkov wrote: > On 20 March 2014 14:55, Martin Albisetti wrote: >> On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Dimitri John Ledkov >> wrote: >>> >>> I request to release calendar-app click 205 into the store and the >>> images. I am told that latest trunk of

[Ubuntu-phone] ANN: TRAINCON-0 - CITRAIN all stop starting Friday

2014-03-20 Thread Alexander Sack
Hi, I am sending this as a proxy for the not-yet existing TRAINCON bot that will give you updates about our touch image alert state that come with individual landing rules. The TRAINCON levels that were discussed at UDS are: - TRAINCON-2 - everything green, normal landing rules apply - TRAINCON-

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 20.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 01:47:40PM -0400, Bill Filler wrote: > Just an update on this: the messaging-app test fix won't land until the > next image promotion (after the current one) as it depends on a bunch of > other dependencies to be rebuilt with cherry picked changes that are > already in a exi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] .click release procedures blocking in-archive development, for 4 weeks and counting. (python2 removal)

2014-03-20 Thread Martin Albisetti
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Ricardo Kirkner wrote: > unfortunately I don't think that's yet the case, but I'm starting on that > right away and report back when we have it landed. Looping in the list ^ -- Martin -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Initrd for X86

2014-03-20 Thread Oliver Grawert
hi, Am Donnerstag, den 20.03.2014, 18:30 +0100 schrieb Corvus: > Hi everybody again. > > > Next problem. > > > I fixed some things and now i get a bootlooping device :/. I changed > cmdline to use break=bottom and i launch the commands manualy and all > works ok but: > > > exec run-init ${roo

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Gustavo Boiko
Hi On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 2:51 PM, Sebastien Bacher wrote: > Le 20/03/2014 18:38, Bill Filler a écrit : > > we block changes from getting into our proposed images quite frequently >> which seems wrong because we are so concerned about promoting it to released >> > > Hey Bill, > > I agree with

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] .click release procedures blocking in-archive development, for 4 weeks and counting. (python2 removal)

2014-03-20 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
On 03/20/2014 01:43 PM, Sergio Schvezov wrote: I have no issue with sharing but traceability is really lost if it's too many people with the same account. The issue here isn't people to upload things, it's people to debug issues, fix them and test them. Uploads happen as soon as fixes are land

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] .click release procedures blocking in-archive development, for 4 weeks and counting. (python2 removal)

2014-03-20 Thread Sergio Schvezov
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote: > On 03/20/2014 01:43 PM, Sergio Schvezov wrote: >> >> >> I have no issue with sharing but traceability is really lost if it's >> too many people with the same account. > > The issue here isn't people to upload things, it's people to debug is

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] .click release procedures blocking in-archive development, for 4 weeks and counting. (python2 removal)

2014-03-20 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
On 03/20/2014 03:01 PM, Sergio Schvezov wrote: On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote: On 03/20/2014 01:43 PM, Sergio Schvezov wrote: I have no issue with sharing but traceability is really lost if it's too many people with the same account. The issue here isn't people to upl

[Ubuntu-phone] unity8 & mir updates March 20 2014

2014-03-20 Thread Kevin Gunn
- Unity8 ui - Right edge reviews iterated, ready to land - New scopes in silo and design-approved, waiting for a promotable Qt 5.2 image - Preparation to switch to new icon theme - suru - Transition to Qt 5.2 - Split greeter

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 20.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Thomas Strehl
On 03/20/2014 06:34 PM, Didier Roche wrote: > * Alarms not going off reliably on recent touch images (Thomas S.) > https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-datetime/+bug/1295122 > -> it was first thought to be due to deep sleep mode (which wasn't a > regression). However, more testing

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 20.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Nicholas Skaggs
On 03/20/2014 01:34 PM, Didier Roche wrote: * flaky test failure on calendar-app (Alan/Jean-Baptiste): https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1293489 -> The application is crashing on x86 with latest trunk, seems one way would be to revert it. However, the issue was downgraded on th

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to build Ubuntu Touch for Nexus 4

2014-03-20 Thread David Peter
Thank you very much, I'm gonna dig into that looks very interesting David On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Oliver Grawert wrote: > hi, > Am Mittwoch, den 19.03.2014, 10:27 -0400 schrieb David Peter: > > > Now there is new things that I need to figure out. > > You could remark reading the mani

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] What is the best way to install a current (trusty) build of Ubuntu Touch?

2014-03-20 Thread David Peter
Thank you very much guys for all those good information. I'm like Mathias, doing my self teaching to figure out how all that stuff is compound. Then I'd like to get involved into something. Thanks David On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 12:08 AM, Ricardo Salveti de Araujo < ricardo.salv...@canonical.com> w

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] .click release procedures blocking in-archive development, for 4 weeks and counting. (python2 removal)

2014-03-20 Thread Thomi Richards
Hi, On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 8:32 AM, Nicholas Skaggs < nicholas.ska...@canonical.com> wrote: > > As an example, the calendar blockage on the latest image has a few tests > that started failing after 5.2 landed. You've seen the landing emails with > this snippet; > > * flaky test failure on calend

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 20.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Kevin Gunn
> > > ** Blocking issues for image promotion ** > > * Upon upgrading to Qt5.2 the music app no longer plays the next song if > the screen is off (Kevin) > https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1292306 > -> Investigation is under way, can be Mir not rendering, and thus blocking > Qt event loop >

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 20.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Michał Sawicz
On 20.03.2014 22:13, Kevin Gunn wrote: > So wait...the screen is off, and Mir isn't rendering...and that's a > problem ?? > hope that's not what you're saying. > wouldn't be popular for battery operated devices. Don't take it personally :) > In fact there's been some debug to show that there has

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Selene Scriven
* Ricardo Salveti de Araujo wrote: > We had lavc / ffmpeg and had to remove because of licensing > issues. Even if we add them back, software decoding is > currently broken, so it wouldn't help. Bummer. > We're only doing hardware decoding, so it might be indeed a bug > in our gst-hybris sta

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 20.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Michał Sawicz
On 20.03.2014 22:38, Michał Sawicz wrote: > As I said on the bug¹, this is caused by a change in Qt 5.2, whether it > was deliberate or not we don't yet know, but hope it is not. I'm not > sure we can emulate Mir's behaviour on other platforms, but that would > be helpful to see if it's maybe limit

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 03:43:02PM -0300, Gustavo Boiko wrote: > The only problem is that this doesn't scale. While one big feature lands > (say, Qt 5.2), there are at least five or more others being developed and > maybe even proposed. So we pick one of those to land, and then while we are > in th

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN: TRAINCON-0 - CITRAIN all stop starting Friday

2014-03-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 18:58:28 Alexander Sack wrote: > Hi, > > I am sending this as a proxy for the not-yet existing TRAINCON bot > that will give you updates about our touch image alert state that come > with individual landing rules. > > The TRAINCON levels that were discussed at UDS are:

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 20.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Robert Park
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:34 AM, Didier Roche wrote: > I'll let Lukasz guiding you tomorrow, see you on Monday! Ok, so after spending the entire day testing autopilot, I found it had no regressions (that is, the only failure I saw was the same calendar-app failure that's already known from befo

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN: TRAINCON-0 - CITRAIN all stop starting Friday

2014-03-20 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Thursday, March 20, 2014 20:30:42 Adam Conrad wrote: > On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:23:44PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > > On Thursday, March 20, 2014 18:58:28 Alexander Sack wrote: > > > The bugs that are needed to get fixed are below: > > > * music-app: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team meeting 19.03.14

2014-03-20 Thread Victor Thompson
> > > Given the choice, which is better: to have slightly more frequent > breakage, but have key engineers be fresh and able to work on urgent > problems that come their way every so often; or to have our key > engineers concentrate hard every day to make sure as few regressions as > possible slip

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Chinese input method in Ubuntu Touch

2014-03-20 Thread zhangchao
HI Joey, I'm glad to know you. I have upgraded Ubuntu Touch from Saucy to Trusty. And Chinese input method has already can be used. Thank you for your help :) Regards, Ubuntu Kylin Team Zhangchao -- 等待&希望 At 2014-03-20 16:59:45,"Joey Chan" wrote: Hi ZhangChao, This is Joey who gave a

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] ANN: TRAINCON-0 - CITRAIN all stop starting Friday

2014-03-20 Thread Adam Conrad
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 10:23:44PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Thursday, March 20, 2014 18:58:28 Alexander Sack wrote: > > > > The bugs that are needed to get fixed are below: > > > > * music-app: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1292306 (Kevin > > and Saviq) > > > > * alarms:

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Chinese input method in Ubuntu Touch

2014-03-20 Thread Joey Chan
U r right :) Chinese input method doesn't work in Saucy, pls keep using latest version 2014-03-21 10:45 GMT+08:00 : > HI Joey, > > I'm glad to know you. > I have upgraded Ubuntu Touch from Saucy to Trusty. And Chinese input > method has already can be used. > Thank you for your help :) > > > R

[Ubuntu-phone] Date of launching

2014-03-20 Thread david german
Somebody can tell me when the Smartphones with Ubuntu Phone OS will be available in the market. Thank you very much, -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone Post to : ubuntu-phone@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone More help : https://help

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Date of launching

2014-03-20 Thread Nathan Haines
On 03/20/2014 09:07 PM, david german wrote: Somebody can tell me when the Smartphones with Ubuntu Phone OS will be available in the market. No, we are only developers here and we have nothing to do with those decisions. The only information we have is the same that you have: mid-2014, or Q

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] .click release procedures blocking in-archive development, for 4 weeks and counting. (python2 removal)

2014-03-20 Thread Alex Chiang
On Thu, Mar 20, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Nicholas Skaggs wrote: > On 03/20/2014 01:43 PM, Sergio Schvezov wrote: >> >> >> I have no issue with sharing but traceability is really lost if it's >> too many people with the same account. > > The issue here isn't people to upload things, it's people to debug i