Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-16 Thread Michael Zanetti
On Friday 12 July 2013 02:39:00 Michał Sawicz wrote: > W dniu 12.07.2013 01:51, Peter Dey pisze: > > Why not do something similar to what the Nokia N9 does? > > > > When a 3G connection its detected for the first time (e.g. new SIM > > inserted), ask the user whether they would like to connect aut

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Michał Sawicz
W dniu 12.07.2013 01:51, Peter Dey pisze: > Why not do something similar to what the Nokia N9 does? > > When a 3G connection its detected for the first time (e.g. new SIM inserted), > ask the user whether they would like to connect automatically. If they say > No, > then when a data connection

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Peter Dey
Why not do something similar to what the Nokia N9 does? When a 3G connection its detected for the first time (e.g. new SIM inserted), ask the user whether they would like to connect automatically. If they say No, then when a data connection is needed, and no WiFi access points are saved, ask t

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Cyrille Ngassam Nkwenga
We should not do thing just because it looks " professional"... We should care for the user. It is not a big issue for people who have 1-5 GB Data limit on their plan but for the people who are below 1GB it is already a big deal. Ubuntu should not be doing because the other are doing the same thi

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Jonathan Meek
I work a retail electronics job and having the data switched off by default is not a good thing to do. We sell Huawei pre-paid Android devices and they have switch off data by default and *anecdotally* we get a lot of customers coming in asking why their internet doesn't work on the phone. I then h

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Mark Guthrie
We could do something similar to android where the first boot you are asked to setup WiFi connection but if the user selects no ask if the user would like to turn on mobile data. On Jul 11, 2013 2:53 PM, "Josh Leverette" wrote: > It doesn't look professional for it to *not* connect. The only solu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Josh Leverette
It doesn't look professional for it to *not* connect. The only solution to this discussion that seems reasonable to me is to have the 1st boot screen provide a two button UI where you can select to turn on mobile data or to continue with it remaining turned off. My experience is that the default b

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Benoît Legat
I agree with Cyrille, in some case you don't even have free 3G but you can still use it, it is just so expensive. So if you phone starts the first time with 3G on, when you will be asked to set you calendars, emails and so on, it will synchronise on the 3G. At the beginning, it will be a complete

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Michael Zanetti
On Thursday 11 July 2013 11:09:34 Bill Filler wrote: > If you install latest build (saucy-39) and apt-get update apt-get > dist-upgrade the networking indicator has toggle switches for wifi and 3g. Yay. This is nice. Thanks Bill. Br, Michael -- Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-phone

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Ted Gould
On Thu, 2013-07-11 at 11:09 -0400, Bill Filler wrote: > If you install latest build (saucy-39) and apt-get update apt-get > dist-upgrade the networking indicator has toggle switches for wifi and 3g. Is there a merge proposal for this somewhere? Or was it just done in the throw away project? Te

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Rasmus Eneman
The network have an ID, the SIM have an Network ID. If these match the SIM is on it's home network, it they doesn't it's roaming. How did you thought your current phone knew if it's roaming or not? Of course it should be on the last set value, however it needs to have a reasonable default on first

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Cyrille Ngassam Nkwenga
I'm OK with that. Am 11.07.2013 18:02 schrieb "Joseph Bylund" : > Maybe a persistent status across reboots would satisfy everyone? i.e. if > networking is disabled when phone powers down, networking is disabled when > phone powers up. > -Joe > > On 07/11/2013 11:50 AM, Rasmus Eneman wrote: > >> I

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Cyrille Ngassam Nkwenga
I don't agree with that. I'm always connected. How does Network Manager know the Roaming is active? People expected it but don't what it cost. And at the end of the month they are surprise that they reached the limit or that their speed became slow. People know how to activate 3G. Am 11.07.2013 17:

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Joseph Bylund
Maybe a persistent status across reboots would satisfy everyone? i.e. if networking is disabled when phone powers down, networking is disabled when phone powers up. -Joe On 07/11/2013 11:50 AM, Rasmus Eneman wrote: If it didn't connect automatically a lot of people would complain that mobile

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Rasmus Eneman
If it didn't connect automatically a lot of people would complain that mobile data isn't working. We live in a connected world and most people expect to be connected by default. It should connect by default but be easily disconnectable however roaming should be disabled by default as that may be ve

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Cyrille Ngassam Nkwenga
I will say I hate this behavior on Android I boot up the phone and it automatically connects with 3G... By default Ubuntu should not connect the 3G data Am 11.07.2013 13:17 schrieb "Michael Zanetti" : > Ok... glad you guys mentioned it... Would have been a big surprise on my > trip > to Spain tomo

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Bill Filler
If you install latest build (saucy-39) and apt-get update apt-get dist-upgrade the networking indicator has toggle switches for wifi and 3g. On 07/11/2013 07:17 AM, Michael Zanetti wrote: > Ok... glad you guys mentioned it... Would have been a big surprise on my trip > to Spain tomorrow if the de

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-11 Thread Michael Zanetti
Ok... glad you guys mentioned it... Would have been a big surprise on my trip to Spain tomorrow if the device establishes a data connection without me even knowing. Any hint how to disable the autoconnect feature and revert back to manual conections? Thanks On Wednesday 10 July 2013 09:09:19

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-10 Thread Mathieu Trudel-Lapierre
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 10:22 PM, Jono Bacon wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Michael Zanetti < > michael.zane...@canonical.com> wrote: > >> Hi Sergio, >> >> On Tuesday 09 July 2013 12:51:37 Sergio Schvezov wrote: >> > - Network Manager now automatically enables the data connection.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-09 Thread Jono Bacon
On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 8:58 AM, Michael Zanetti < michael.zane...@canonical.com> wrote: > Hi Sergio, > > On Tuesday 09 July 2013 12:51:37 Sergio Schvezov wrote: > > - Network Manager now automatically enables the data connection. > > Uh... That sounds scary. At least for people without a data flat

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu Touch Summary (week 26)

2013-07-09 Thread Michael Zanetti
Hi Sergio, On Tuesday 09 July 2013 12:51:37 Sergio Schvezov wrote: > - Network Manager now automatically enables the data connection. Uh... That sounds scary. At least for people without a data flatrate. Afaik there is no 3G indicator yet. How do I know if current traffic is routed through WiF