Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 12.03.14

2014-03-12 Thread Didier Roche
Le 13/03/2014 07:04, Timo Jyrinki a écrit : On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: Now that click is fixed and it is doing all the right things managing its overlays and databases, click-apparmor was found to not update the policy when the hook symlink changed. Put more simply

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 12.03.14

2014-03-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 9:31 PM, Jamie Strandboge wrote: > Now that click is fixed and it is doing all the right things managing its > overlays and databases, click-apparmor was found to not update the policy when > the hook symlink changed. Put more simply, the click issue isn't completely > fixe

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [HTML5] Local storage options for HTML5 apps

2014-03-12 Thread Alexandre Abreu
Hi Robert, On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Robert Schroll wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm trying to figure out what options I have for storing data in an HTML > app. Based on testing in 13.10, it appears that Web Storage and Web SQL > are supported, while IndexedDB are FileSystem are not. Is this co

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [PROPOSAL] No (click) apps on images by default

2014-03-12 Thread Ricardo Salveti de Araujo
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Alex Chiang wrote: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Ricardo Salveti de Araujo > wrote: > - the new common rootfs should have no click apps per default > - the rootfs we know today would be a special case of customization Can you expand on this?

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [PROPOSAL] No (click) apps on images by default

2014-03-12 Thread Ricardo Salveti de Araujo
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 8:05 PM, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 06:30:04PM -0300, Ricardo Salveti de Araujo wrote: >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Sergio Schvezov >> wrote: >> > So instead of 'uninstalling/unregistering' them from the default >> > image; it would just not be in

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [PROPOSAL] No (click) apps on images by default

2014-03-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 06:30:04PM -0300, Ricardo Salveti de Araujo wrote: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Sergio Schvezov > wrote: > > So instead of 'uninstalling/unregistering' them from the default > > image; it would just not be installed. > > > > cjwatson mention that this is really not ne

[Ubuntu-phone] Ubuntu touch issues

2014-03-12 Thread group PICT MANY
Hi, I am trying to boot ubuntu-touch with android goldfish emulator and with goldfish kernel 3.4. I successfully get the phablet login but it fails to get the GUI working. I built the goldfish 3.4 kernel following way: external/qemu/distribbuild-kernel.sh --armv7 Boot log is attached. What could

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [PROPOSAL] No (click) apps on images by default

2014-03-12 Thread Ricardo Salveti de Araujo
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Sergio Schvezov wrote: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Alex Chiang wrote: >> I am not against this plan, but I do have a question. >> >> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Sergio Schvezov >> wrote: >>> >>> - the new common rootfs should have no click apps per d

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [PROPOSAL] No (click) apps on images by default

2014-03-12 Thread Chris Wayne
It also solves the problem of an OEM/Carrier not wanting to ship with any specific apps (i.e. terminal) On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Alex Chiang wrote: > I am not against this plan, but I do have a question. > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Sergio Schvezov > wrote: > > > > - the new c

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [PROPOSAL] No (click) apps on images by default

2014-03-12 Thread Sergio Schvezov
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Rodney Dawes wrote: > On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 15:37 -0300, Sergio Schvezov wrote: >> - this opens the possibility of having a better set for phone and >> tablet (different customizations, preinstalled apps that is). > > Are the apps where this actually matters curren

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [PROPOSAL] No (click) apps on images by default

2014-03-12 Thread Alex Chiang
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 2:30 PM, Ricardo Salveti de Araujo wrote: > > Not wanting a terminal by default is what started this conversation :-) > > We could only install by default what we think that should be > mandatory, and provide the rest as part of a default custom tarball. > That way we can p

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Multi-touch in terminal

2014-03-12 Thread Nathan Haines
On 03/12/2014 11:22 AM, Kurt Hodgin wrote: Can multi-touch be an addition to the terminal? I use screen to launch my mine craft server and re-attach later. I can pull up the screen ssh(ing) into my server, when I'm there however I need to hit Ctrl+a+d to leave the screen. Not a bug so not sure

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [PROPOSAL] No (click) apps on images by default

2014-03-12 Thread Sergio Schvezov
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 4:53 PM, Alex Chiang wrote: > I am not against this plan, but I do have a question. > > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Sergio Schvezov > wrote: >> >> - the new common rootfs should have no click apps per default >> - the rootfs we know today would be a special case of c

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to build Ubuntu Touch for Nexus 4

2014-03-12 Thread David Peter
Sergio is right follow the CyanogenMod's way, here it is: http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/Build_for_mako Read it, do it, everything will become very clear On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Sergio Schvezov < sergio.schve...@canonical.com> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Mathias Bauer >

[Ubuntu-phone] [HTML5] Local storage options for HTML5 apps

2014-03-12 Thread Robert Schroll
Hi all, I'm trying to figure out what options I have for storing data in an HTML app. Based on testing in 13.10, it appears that Web Storage and Web SQL are supported, while IndexedDB are FileSystem are not. Is this correct? Is this situation expected to persist, or will Web SQL be phased

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [PROPOSAL] No (click) apps on images by default

2014-03-12 Thread Rodney Dawes
On Wed, 2014-03-12 at 15:37 -0300, Sergio Schvezov wrote: > - this opens the possibility of having a better set for phone and > tablet (different customizations, preinstalled apps that is). Are the apps where this actually matters currently, even packaged as clicks? It doesn't seem like they are.

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] [PROPOSAL] No (click) apps on images by default

2014-03-12 Thread Alex Chiang
I am not against this plan, but I do have a question. On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Sergio Schvezov wrote: > > - the new common rootfs should have no click apps per default > - the rootfs we know today would be a special case of customization Can you expand on this? Does this mean we would d

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Update release for Ubuntu Dual Boot - 2014-03-10

2014-03-12 Thread Alex Kaluzhny
On 03/12/2014 08:12 AM, David Planella wrote: For anyone who got stuck in that same step, a workaround is to use the old CWM recovery image, which is known to work (thanks to ondra for the instructions): - In the dualboot.sh script, find line that says; "URL_CMW_PATH_MAKO="http://download2.cl

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 12.03.14

2014-03-12 Thread Jamie Strandboge
On 03/12/2014 12:00 PM, Didier Roche wrote: > Hey, > > 3 images kicked in, another regression was found but quickly fixed and an > image > being a promotion candidate under testing now, that's the menu for today ;) > > #232: > - this one got the fix for click package that was discussed yesterday

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 12.03.14

2014-03-12 Thread Dave Morley
On 12/03/14 17:00, Didier Roche wrote: > Hey, > > 3 images kicked in, another regression was found but quickly fixed and > an image being a promotion candidate under testing now, that's the menu > for today ;) > > #232: > - this one got the fix for click package that was discussed yesterday > (be

[Ubuntu-phone] [PROPOSAL] No (click) apps on images by default

2014-03-12 Thread Sergio Schvezov
cwayne brought up an interesting question on #ubuntu-touch today on how to provide custom images _without_ specific packages. This follows the story of common rootfs for everything. After a quick discussion with rsalveti, ogra, cwayne and pmcgowan (which could be a red flag :-P), we came to some s

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to build Ubuntu Touch for Nexus 4

2014-03-12 Thread Mathias Bauer
Hi Sergio, Am 12.03.14 17:17, schrieb Sergio Schvezov: On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote: Hi, I want to build a Ubuntu Touch for Nexus 4 by myself as an exercise to start into the world of Ubuntu Touch porting. I tried to follow the instructions found here: https://wiki.

[Ubuntu-phone] Multi-touch in terminal

2014-03-12 Thread Kurt Hodgin
Can multi-touch be an addition to the terminal? I use screen to launch my mine craft server and re-attach later. I can pull up the screen ssh(ing) into my server, when I'm there however I need to hit Ctrl+a+d to leave the screen. Not a bug so not sure where to post ideas of this nature. Lov

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] CI Train improvements

2014-03-12 Thread Didier Roche
Le 12/03/2014 17:57, David Barth a écrit : Le 12/03/2014 16:42, Didier Roche a écrit : * Ability to reconfigure yourself your silos if you don't add new components -> Adding commits just need a rebuild. However, if you add/drop MPs, you had to ask for a "silo reconfiguration" from the landing t

[Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 12.03.14

2014-03-12 Thread Didier Roche
Hey, 3 images kicked in, another regression was found but quickly fixed and an image being a promotion candidate under testing now, that's the menu for today ;) #232: - this one got the fix for click package that was discussed yesterday (being unable to start click apps if you have updated m

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] CI Train improvements

2014-03-12 Thread David Barth
Le 12/03/2014 16:42, Didier Roche a écrit : * Ability to reconfigure yourself your silos if you don't add new components -> Adding commits just need a rebuild. However, if you add/drop MPs, you had to ask for a "silo reconfiguration" from the landing team. This is going to be available to the la

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-12 Thread Michael Terry
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Michael Terry wrote on 10/03/14 13:48: > > > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas ... > >> Sorry, I was using "greeter" too loosely as a synonym for "login > >> scree

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] How to build Ubuntu Touch for Nexus 4

2014-03-12 Thread Sergio Schvezov
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote: > Hi, > > I want to build a Ubuntu Touch for Nexus 4 by myself as an exercise to start > into the world of Ubuntu Touch porting. > > I tried to follow the instructions found here: > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Building > > So I got the cod

[Ubuntu-phone] CI Train improvements

2014-03-12 Thread Didier Roche
Hey, I couldn't discuss that in today's session of the landing process, so I'm using that opportunity to announce some visible CI Train changes based on lander's feedback: * Automatic tracking of landing progress of your components -> once you published your components, you have to wait it to

[Ubuntu-phone] How to build Ubuntu Touch for Nexus 4

2014-03-12 Thread Mathias Bauer
Hi, I want to build a Ubuntu Touch for Nexus 4 by myself as an exercise to start into the world of Ubuntu Touch porting. I tried to follow the instructions found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Building So I got the code by calling phablet-dev-bootstrap [target_directory] After that st

[Ubuntu-phone] Today's app design clinic cancelled

2014-03-12 Thread Christina Li
Hi all, Our usual fortnightly app design clinic for today at 2pm UTC is cancelled. We hope you can join us on UDS though via Ubuntu on Air. If you have any app ideas or questions and would like the Design Team input, please email them to des...@canonical.com by Tuesday 1pm UTC the day before the

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Update release for Ubuntu Dual Boot - 2014-03-10

2014-03-12 Thread David Planella
For anyone who got stuck in that same step, a workaround is to use the old CWM recovery image, which is known to work (thanks to ondra for the instructions): - In the dualboot.sh script, find line that says; "URL_CMW_PATH_MAKO=" http://download2.clockworkmod.com/recoveries/recovery-clockwork-6.0.4

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Avoiding spying via the microphone and camera [Was: Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter]

2014-03-12 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thomas Voß wrote on 12/03/14 10:21: > > On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas > > ... >> Thomas Voß wrote on 10/03/14 12:36: >>> >>> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas ... That would result in you getting

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Landing team 10.03.14

2014-03-12 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 02:41:54AM -0300, Ricardo Salveti de Araujo wrote: > It seems we got a critical click regression with 233 (click user hook > fails to start), making the user unable to launch any click package > (camera, facebook, twitter, etc). > > Opened bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubu

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter

2014-03-12 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Terry wrote on 10/03/14 13:48: > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas ... >> Sorry, I was using "greeter" too loosely as a synonym for "login >> screen", i.e. the screen that lets you choose between multiple >> accounts. >>

Re: [Ubuntu-phone] Avoiding spying via the microphone and camera [Was: Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter]

2014-03-12 Thread Thomas Voß
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Thomas Voß wrote on 10/03/14 12:36: >> >> On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 1:13 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas >> >> ... >>> That would result in you getting cut off a Skype call, for >>> example, w