It's fairly common in English to write menu bar as two words, even as other
bars (side, tool) are frequently written as a single word.
I don't think our manual should change spelling conventions for the sake of
consistency. English is not a consistent language, generally, anyways.
On Jul 22, 2012
I think that it'd be good to rework the credits a bit. People who only
contributed to past versions should be commingled and put into past
contributors, while current edition's contributors should be broken out by
role. I think that's the most sustainable long-term and more properly
highlights peop
For some reason this crocodoc tool is showing highlights but not the text
comments -- while entering you see them, but not from another browser
instance. To see the comments you seem to have to need to export the PDF
with markup and then they all show up...
Or am I doing something wrong?
-ilya
Ok, I added a ton of edits. Sorry, I don't have time to do it in LaTeX right
now.
-ilya
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 7:56 AM, Rick Fosburgh wrote:
> Hello, everyone.
>
> A reminder that Editing continues and we need your help!
>
> For those who would like to help *proofread the manual*, but don't w
hat content available legally for you to use?
> Add some text at the bottom saying its licence?
>
> Because, you're more than welcome to use it. And I made it. =)
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2011 at 8:38 PM, Ilya Haykinson wrote:
>
>> Hi Benjamin,
>>
>> The g
Hi Benjamin,
The guide looks great! I think it does a great job of teaching people about
Natty and does so with style, too.
As it stands right now, we can't really use any of the content there,
however. Unless I'm mistaken, the entire omgubuntu site is subject to a
copyright with all rights reser
>
> So in conclusion, i don't think we should release less often, we should
> just work to improve our workflow and the workflow of new contributors
> whether they be authors, editors or translators. Also i do remember that
> Ilya was around a lot during the lucid cycle sort of being an editor in
>
Congratulations to the Greek translation team for getting this released!
-ilya
On Thu, Jul 22, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Kevin Godby wrote:
> Hello, everyone.
>
> I wanted to announce that we released the Greek translation last night.
>
> Thanks to the hard work of c7p, topo, and all the other Greek tra
y code, and only individual
content units will need to be authored by individual contributors. This
would make the specific complexities of some of the formats somewhat moot.
-ilya haykinson
On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 6:13 PM, Jim Campbell wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I wanted to make a couple of s
All,
I wanted to run the following by you -- this is my proposed approach for
research for the Maverick cycle. Please comment as soon as possible, as I'd
like to lock to an approach rather soon.
Usability Research
Research is a key value for UMP. To adhere to this value, we will undertake
one or
Brandon,
Please feel free to take a crack at this bug. Note that I've done a little
bit of expansion related to this section, but didn't go into the major
directories. This is a good thing to explain to newbies -- though.
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 5:58 PM, Brandon Jardine
wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Is a
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>
> Seems like DocBook has the most flexibility, but since there is some
> barrier to entry when writing DocBook maybe it'd be worth the time to come
> up with some kind of simple editing tool. That is if there isn't something
> out there better than Gedit :-).
>
My hope is that we have two class
se but revisions etc are
stored in an RCS.
I would leave the technology question for some future date.
Thoughts? Feedback?
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solutions, and then implement them.
>
I agree with your premise that we should collaborate on one website, but I
would suggest that help.ubuntu.com has not changed in _so_ long that the
more appropriate thing is to look at the overall needs along the lines of
the Learning Center proposal. I
I would add to this "Create a way to read the manual online", i.e. embed
some flash-based PDF display, to let people without a PDF reader look
through our manual.
We should also try to find a way to have key phrases from the manual indexed
by search engines -- otherwise people won't find the manua
ght together in the future.
-ilya haykinson
On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Elan Kugelmass wrote:
> Thanks for forwarding my message along Dmitry. I appreciate that.
>
> I'm copying the ubuntu manual team on this email.
>
> On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Dmitry Aga
I've been battling with this weird font issue on Windows -- almost
everything was rendering _very_ poorly for me on the web site. I've tried
replacing all headers and text using Cufón, and that worked great -- the
font started rendering correctly.
The problem was that the copy of DejaVu Sans Conde
Good idea. I saw limesurvey last time when creating the survey, but at the
time we didn't have web space set up yet, and I was concerned more with the
speed to set up the survey and not the technology.
Now that we have more resources, this is definitely the way to go.
-ilya
2010/4/12 Martin Luke
We clearly need to fix this in the manual. I think this qualifies for an
exception, just like other issues that will come up between now and Lucid's
release that we could not know about.
-ilya
On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 2:45 PM, Kevin Godby wrote:
> It looks like the default search provider will be
Martin,
> Slowly though, but I'm able to figure out what is the difference between
> ported and unported licenses. But I wonder how we should make "language
> specific" versions of our manual, not "only" translating it.
>
>
I'm not sure I understand your question. My feedback was that we should u
>
> >> Regarding bugs in the manual -- it's CC's policy that the published
> >> version is not changed (even for punctuation or factual errors). So the
> 1(f)
> >> reference that is clearly meant to be 1(h) will stay in the manual. They
> >> have a wiki where bugs are tracked -- if I get a link to
>
> Are these the licenses we should be using (if there isn't a
> translation offered on the main license page)?
>
> http://creativecommons.org/international/
>
> --Kevin
>
No, we should be using the unported (i.e. generic), English language
license: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/
hey
have a wiki where bugs are tracked -- if I get a link to that, I will make
sure that this bug is reported there.
Please let me know if you have any questions.
-ilya
2010/3/28 Ilya Haykinson
> I have a call scheduled for this coming Friday with Diane Peters -- the
> General Counsel of C
;make it great" approach for
the second edition, and then further convert it into a "cover more"
approach. If we can accomplish all three goals over time, I think that we
will ensure that our team can ship high quality products, repeatedly.
I'd
Just changed this to "Ubuntu is more than just an operating system".
Simpler, and easier to translate.
Thanks!
-ilya
On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:22 PM, Yann Ubuntu wrote:
> Dear all,
>
> p7 : "Ubuntu as we know IT is more than just an operating system" :
> remove "it" ? (i'm not sure, as Engli
Public bug reported:
Currently, on page 3, the license is linked to in the sentence "To view
a copy of this license, see Appendix A". However, only "A" is linked.
I recommend changing so that the entire phrase "Appendix A" is a link,
to make the clickable link target larger (see Fitt's Law)
** A
that we get the
question resolved in the next couple of weeks.
-ilya
2010/3/27 Martin Lukeš
> Do we already know anything about licenses?
>
>
> ---
> Regards
> Martin Lukeš
> P.S.: Please keep the communication history
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 10:47 PM, Il
I think that if it's not usual, we shouldn't cover it. The manual should
really only include the very common problems, and not obscure ones.
-ilya
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Heriberto Ventura wrote:
>
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> the manual looks great, but i think, it would be good to add some
gt; > That's probably a good idea until it gets better dialup support by
> >> > default.
> >> >
> >> > Are there any statistics on the net that show how many people are
> >> > using what type of connection?
> >> >
> >> >
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illy to force you to download a package from the
> internet before you can get the internet.
>
> Especially with Ubuntu's emphasis on helping third world countries.
>
> On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 9:42 PM, Ryan Macnish wrote:
> > On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 03:52:25 pm Ilya Haykinso
I don't have a modem, nor a computer with a modem, nor a phone line. I'm
hoping that someone who still can use dialup can help document the portion
of chapter 3 that deals with dialup.
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e use
> the german port for germany? Parts of this license quote german laws,
> not american, which seems quite reasonable for me?
>
> - ---
> Mit freundlichen Grüßen
> Daniel Schury
>
> Am 04.03.2010 20:36, schrieb Ilya Haykinson:
> > The version
The versions that you get from the international page are the ported
licenses for particular jurisdictions
We should be using the unported license most likely
I will get on a call later this week or next week with the CC folks and
figure this out
-ilya
2010/3/4 Martin Lukeš
> As you can see fr
r. Until then, let's hold off on further work
localizing the license.
-ilya
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:53 PM, Kevin Godby wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Ilya Haykinson
> wrote:
> > I recommend that we _never_ translate this license, since it's a binding
> >
I recommend that we _never_ translate this license, since it's a binding
legal document and it is very easy to make a mistake in translation that
alters the entire meaning. If need be, I can email Lawrence Lessig and ask
for help in approving a translation, but instead I would prefer that we do
the
I did the LaTeX conversion of the license... Feel free to change it, but
note that we should not change the way sections are numbered since the text
of the license often refers to sections by number, and we should not be
changing these.
-ilya
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Kevin Godby wrote:
>
I suggest that we keep the edition within the context of an Ubuntu version.
So:
title = "Getting Started with Ubuntu 10.04", subtitle = "First edition"
title = "Getting Started with Ubuntu 10.04", subtitle = "Second edition"
title = "Getting Started with Ubuntu 10.04", subtitle = "Third edition"
.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35479954/ns/technology_and_science-security/
Not a lot of specific recommendations, but some takeaways for us (and not
just related to security) are:
- Plain language is vital
- Tell the user _why_ they may want to do something
- Don't use words with meanings that s
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Thorsten,
I took the information from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TakingScreenshots -- who
recommend 8-bit color for screenshots that are going into PDFs. Their
recommendation seems to be based on a compromise between color depth and
file size.
I erred on the dimensions -- 800x600 is not mentioned an
Elan (and any others who may have ideas on this):
A few comments:
- Thanks for making progress on the chapter so far!
- A general comment is to have the user troubleshoot Ubuntu using graphical
tools as much as possible -- while some command line is necessary (for
example, to reinstall grub),
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days? Just create a
sub-page under Blueprints, and link to it from the Table of Contents and
from your individual blueprint.
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, and
someone else can improve your writing later.
Feel free to reply to the list, or to me privately, if you'd like to help.
We'll close the search for contributors in a couple of days.
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I've decided to collect the results from the QuestionPro survey we've been
running for several days. Since we're up to 1200+ responses, and we've tried
hard to promote it, I think that we can start to look at the results.
Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/Research/SurveyJan201
A few comments:
- I think it's fine to mention Linux; people do connect Ubuntu and Linux in
their minds pretty frequently. While it's fine to follow Ubuntu's lead and
focus on what Ubuntu does for the user, and not what Linux does, I think
that it's fine to have an introduction that clarifies the
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Attention -- your help is needed!
It is now time to spread the Ubuntu Manual survey -- a quick, 9-question
poll about features of the manual that people may want to see emphasized.
The survey is at http://questionpro.com/t/ADd2yZGu50
Any of you who can tweet, post, email, or otherwise spread thi
, Benjamin Humphrey wrote:
> Ilya,
>
> I think we can do what we want with the content that Albert has given us -
> I can email him and confirm the license though.
>
> Our manual is CC-BY-SA as it says on the wiki and Launchpad.
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 2:15 PM, Ilya Hayki
One question here is about licensing -- the attached document contains a
copyright statement and nothing else. What license are we using for the
Manual? CC-BY? CC-BY-SA? GFDL? Is this document also being relicensed under
a compatible license in order to allow us to share?
-ilya
On Thu, Jan 14, 20
n Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 12:36 PM, Ilya Haykinson wrote:
> In order to help with the research effort, I've created an online survey
> version of the questions that Benjamin asked on the Ubuntu forum.
>
> Please review the survey so far: http://questionpro.com/t/ADd2yZGu50
>
>
>
> But as for only writing articles for each LTS, I don't think it'd
> really be /that/ hard to update Ubuntu Manual every six months. The
> updates between each version of Ubuntu, no matter how significant, are
> usually sequential. Thus, so long as this project maintains 5-10
> people per Ubuntu
Alan,
First, thank you for reviewing the survey and responding.
I have explained to Benjamin that I'm uncomfortable with the amount of
> focus being placed on getting the manual onto CD/ISO. Especially given
> it's so far unfinished, and not in main so ineligible to get on the
> CD. Putting press
In order to help with the research effort, I've created an online survey
version of the questions that Benjamin asked on the Ubuntu forum.
Please review the survey so far: http://questionpro.com/t/ADd2yZGu50
I ask that you not share the link until 2009-01-14 at 0500 UTC -- I wanted
to give folks
I also recommend searching online to see what problems people tend to
experience with Ubuntu, and looking at other books/articles on the topic.
For example, see the list at
http://www.informit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=667418
(it's from a copyrighted book, so please don't copy anything out of t
Brett,
Thanks for offering to help!
The manual is currently targeting complete Ubuntu novices, computer novices,
and in general a non-technical audience. Given that, we wouldn't want to
expose them to the more advanced topics such as the ones you are describing.
If you have some extra time to he
This is really good advice! Thanks, Wolter, for finding it.
I would also recommend leafing through other manuals on your shelf -- no
doubt at some point in the past you or someone you know may have purchased
some commercial software. Say what you want, but companies spend a lot of
time and money d
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I forgot about this bug, but had cleaned all of these up except for
changing the case from Unix to UNIX.
UNIX refers to the trademarked software, whereas a common term for what
Linux is would be "Unix-like". See the Wikipedia entry on UNIX for more.
In addition, Ubuntu's documentation uses "Unix"
>
> I've been looking at the latest LP branch. I noticed that main.tex now
> includes some handy shaded boxes. It would be nice to have additional boxes
> for warnings and tips. Both of which could be either the full width of the
> page or centered, rather than having wrapped text as the current ye
+1 from me. I think the new plan will work as a good introduction.
Perhaps, like JaminDay says, we can do something about Chapter 7 not
being a pure introduction to the terminal, but perhaps a task-oriented
one? What if we merge chapter 7 and 8 and just create a
"troubleshooting" chapter, which st
Also, please do not forget that an em-dash () in LaTeX is "---". Please use
"space, dash, dash, dash, space" to separate thoughts within a sentence.
Much like double quotes this applies to writers, but especially for editors.
I've recently gone through and fixed up all existing copy.
-ilya
On Sa
@Benjamin,
I am not really tied to the number of chapters. For example, Chapter 1
and Chapter 2 are not really long enough to be "chapters" in their own
right, and can be considered more of a Prologue. There's also a way to
reorganize my proposed set into fewer chapters, such as for example:
Prol
I don't think that this rearranging is enough. If you look at the
current TOC structure, we start out with a bunch of very general
chapters that really are introductory in nature:
1. An introduction to the manual
2. About Ubuntu in general
3. How to get Ubuntu installed
then we have the one and o
's style guide (
> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/StyleGuide)?
>
> Regards,
> Kelvin
>
> Ilya Haykinson wrote:
>
>> I've started work on a style / content guide. I'm hoping that we can get
>> some consensus on this before too much content gets writ
I think that plain documents are not very book-like (or, rather, they are
too much like textbooks, and not enough like user manuals and guides).
So, any thoughts about doing something like this:
http://imagebin.ca/view/xkrQ3IVx.html
We could use this to have an in-line glossary, asides for a
I've started work on a style / content guide. I'm hoping that we can get
some consensus on this before too much content gets written.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-manual/StyleGuide
Please feel free to edit/expand.
-ilya haykinson
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