Re: Large files under ubuntu do not appear to work

>> For crying out loud it's MB/Mb megaBYTE and mb megabit. 10Mbit and >> 10mbit are the same. It's 10Mbyte and 10Mbit that is different. >> > > > If you want to be *strictly* accurate Mbit is megabit and mbit is > millibit! - Hence Jan's smiley :-) > > Now that one is new to me. mbit = m

Re: Large files under ubuntu do not appear to work

> I'm sorry, I was completely stupid in that mail. I should sleep more often > than once every 3 days... > > At least you don't do what that Korean dude did when he went without sleep for 3 days. :-) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settin

Re: Large files under ubuntu do not appear to work

Jan Claeys wrote: > Op vrijdag 27-03-2009 om 22:04 uur [tijdzone +0800], schreef Chan Chung > Hang Christopher: > >> Now that one is new to me. mbit = millibit. Now I can ask people to >> divide their bits with me. :-D >> > > If you think fractions of a

Re: Large files under ubuntu do not appear to work

Nils Kassube wrote: > Christopher Chan wrote: > >> Please do point out where it says megabit = 1000x1000 bits and not >> 1024 x 1024 bits. >> > > From : > > | When describing bitrates, binary prefixes have almost never been used > | and SI pref

Re: Cron jobs too heavy for ordinary systems (system completely unusable for a while)

> vince...@frattaglia:~$ free > total used free sharedbuffers > cached > Mem: 1017884 987568 30316 0 16544 > 651836 > -/+ buffers/cache: 319188 698696 > Swap: 18875961884040 3556 > > > So yes, an hurricane has pas

Re: Current situation of amarok, and of latex tools

Christopher James Halse Rogers wrote: > On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 11:12 +0800, Christopher Chan wrote: > >>> That is not the case with OpenSolaris based ZFS root capable >>> installations. While the whole disk maybe taken up by a zfs pool, the >>> installation will create three at least zfs filesy

Re: Current situation of amarok, and of latex tools

>> Alternatively, replace Evolution with MySQL or such. >> >> This is what I understand to be the hard problem in *supporting* package >> downgrades. >> >> >> >> > > > Ah, but this is no longer 'roll back' relevant. No fancy zapped file > system will help there. > > /me thinking of fr

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

Benjamin Drung wrote: > On Mon Jun 1 04:15:19 BST 2009 Remco wrote: > >> I have a file here of "701.2 MB", which is "735270912 bytes". Now, if >> it really *were* 701.2 MB, then it would be 70120 bytes. So that's >> clearly base 2, which should be MiB. >> > > That is what the bug report

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

> "Mega" is also a problem because accessibility isn't just about the > ability to understand something, it's about the amount of mental effort > required. Grab a non-technical friend or family member and ask them how > many million in a billion, then how many kilobytes in a megabyte. > You'l

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

Derek Broughton wrote: > Max Bowsher wrote: > > >> Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote: >> >>> Benjamin Drung wrote: >>> >>>> On Mon Jun 1 04:15:19 BST 2009 Remco wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > On Tuesday 02 June 2009 2:57:14 am Christopher Chan wrote: > >> Likewise, just pointing out these bodies makes no sense to me. Get this >> into the POSIX standard and then I'd be happy as a fish in water. Except >> for the part where I have to talk like a frog. Gribbi

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

Derek Broughton wrote: > Christopher Chan wrote: > > >> You've completely missed what the whole thread is about. The age old and >> faulty convention is base2 for space and file sizes. That is what the >> Ubuntu team wants to get rid of. But thanks for supporting my 'argument' >> anyway. :-P >>

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

> A general consensus was reached that MB means powers of ten, MiB means > powers of two, and that places where MB is used to mean powers of two > are bugs. (Common sense, really) > Yawn. An UBUNTU consensus. Hardly general. Oh, I forgot, this is an ubuntu list, nothing else exists. > We als

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: > Ok can we at least fix applications to use Ki Mi etc prefixes when > they are counting in base 2? > Heh. Time to set up the next target for you guys to meet. > This way at least we will be able to identify who is using what. And > please let's not touch command line ut

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orders_of_magnitude_(data) > > I was surprised Google Calculator only supports base 2 data units with > incorrect SI prefixes. > > Could it be because it is the PREVAILING 'standard' that EVERYONE knows and agrees about? (Please do consider including operat

Re: Ubuntu Desktop Unit Consistency (LP: #369525)

Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > On Wednesday 03 June 2009 5:38:52 pm Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote: > >> Could it be because it is the PREVAILING 'standard' that EVERYONE knows >> and agrees about? (Please do consider including operating systems in >> that

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

> Surely the BIOS doesn't actually have to be involved as long as the initial > boot stage can find files anywhere on the disk. > Guess what loads the inital boot stage? -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://li

Re: GRUB 2 now default for new installations

Lars Wirzenius wrote: > ke, 2009-06-10 kello 15:21 -0400, John Moser kirjoitti: > >> Every argument for putting Grub or the kernel on a separate partition >> has been based around the idea that these files are somehow more >> important than, say, /bin/sh >> > > Putting the kernel (i.e., /bo

freeradius + tls/peap support

Hello all, What is the deal with disabling support for tls/peap and going so far as to check for linking to libssl in the rules file to break building the package with openssl support? Christopher -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or u

Re: freeradius + tls/peap support

Soren Hansen wrote: > On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 10:18:41PM +0800, Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote: > >> What is the deal with disabling support for tls/peap and going so far >> as to check for linking to libssl in the rules file to break building >> the pack

grub error 18

Hello all, What package takes care of shutting down? I have this problem with Jaunty. When I first installed Jaunty, it booted up without problems. However, after an update was done, it would always show me a grub error 18 screen on the next attempt to boot the machine after a shutdown. Booti

Re: grub error 18

> I remember reading something about commenting out some line that did > something with grub that would solve this problem. Unfortunately I have > not been able to find that url again and I wondered whether anybody > knows where a command involving grub during shutdown might be located in > th

Re: grub error 18

> I take it that you now have no problem booting after the root...setup... > from the livecd. > Yup. > Grub legacy have precisely some problems not only with LBA cylinder but > also with newer bios. Instead of trying to fix your grub, I suggest you > convert your grub legacy to grub2. After

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

> Yes, we need GUI - GTK and web based. That wouldn't be a problem. How > to manage all configs and keep ease of use from command line - that's > real challenge. Who will code this? > Web-based - check. Heard of webmin? > As example how I would like to see server management for Ubuntu in > gu

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

> I think that EduBuntu does most if not all of this. > I don't know. There has been an earthquake in Edubuntu land and I really doubt that Edubuntu has anything special server administration wise. > I think that if we could build a drop in Domain Controller that also > speaks to Windows mac

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Shentino wrote: > I can't very well speak as a "heavy iron" type server administrator but as > an "end user peon", so to speak, I have found that GUIs add convenience, and > in many cases "point and click" is faster and more convenient than doing > everything on a command line. Doubly so if due to

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

e whether I'll submit it to Brainstorm or go >> straight to a Launchpad blueprint, but at least I've got a spec for people >> to look at. >> >> Any feedback or suggestions are appreciated. >> >> -Ryan >> >> On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:4

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Markus Hitter wrote: > > Am 22.10.2009 um 10:02 schrieb Christopher Chan: > >> Mapping system? I guess that means no shared filesystems. > > SMBFS, sshfs and to some extent NFS support mapping already. It works > just fine here and today, mapping volumes of a Mac OS X server onto an > Ubuntu box.

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Steven Susbauer wrote: > > On Oct 22, 2009, at 2:56 AM, Christopher Chan wrote: > >> Steven Susbauer wrote: >>> >>> On Oct 21, 2009, at 10:56 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: >>> Ryan Dwyer wrote: > > It doesn't matter how much work is involved. Do you think the > Linux/Ubuntu community

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Kevin Fries wrote: >> Although it seems that the first topic to discuss is how the uid/gid system >> can be changed or mapped to support local and domain accounts >> (forgive me if I'm not using the correct terminology). >> >> -Ryan >> > > I mentioned this the other day, and other than a few p

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Remco wrote: > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 10:22, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >>> The lack of tools will not prevent untrained users from doing things they >>> don't know how to do, but having them can make them at least do it a little >>> better. >>> >>> >> There is no lack of tools for administra

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Caroline Ford wrote: > > On 25 Oct 2009, at 15:09, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >>> Or puts them out of a job? >>> >> >> Likely we are talking about a small business here, so the decision >> maker might be the top of the organization's food chain. But it might >> get him sued, and thus out of a business.

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Dotan Cohen wrote: >> For your information, Linux savvy companies tend to... >> > > Linux-savvy companies are not the issue here. GUI server tools will > attract mom 'n pop small businesses as well. > > Mom and pop small businesses do not need a server. They just need a file/print sharin

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Remco wrote: > Once upon a time, Linux was very hard to use on the desktop. If you > wanted to do anything, you had to read manuals and get flamed on > mailinglists. In recent years this has all been turned around. There > were some detractors that would argue that Linux would become as > insecure

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Steven Susbauer wrote: > > On Oct 25, 2009, at 11:10 AM, Chan Chung Hang Christopher wrote: > >> Dotan Cohen wrote: >>>> For your information, Linux savvy companies tend to... >>>> >>> >>> Linux-savvy companies are not the issue here. GUI

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Derek Broughton wrote: > John Moser wrote: > > >> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 8:02 PM, Ryan Dwyer wrote: >> >>> I don't think there's any use discussing whether we think a GUI or CLI is >>> better. Shouldn't we focus on what the typical business wants and what >>> they're prepared to use? >>>

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Caroline Ford wrote: > > On 25 Oct 2009, at 15:09, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >>> Or puts them out of a job? >>> >> >> Likely we are talking about a small business here, so the decision >> maker might be the top of the organization's food chain. But it might >> get him sued, and thus out of a business.

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Tim Hawkins wrote: > Or give complex video recording and playback devices to consumers, or > provide tools for publishing your own > content, or advanced 3d modelling tools to amateurs. All these things > where at one time considered to be the > realm of the professional only, but are now comm

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Derek Broughton wrote: > Dotan Cohen wrote: > > >>> In the first place, nothing they can do in the world of server >>> configuration is going to be that hazardous, and in the second, it's not >>> and never has been about whether it's wise to let them do that: THEY WILL >>> DO IT. So it's in _ev

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Ethan Baldridge wrote: > I just edit resolv.conf anyway and fix it the next time it “breaks” (every > time I log into my company VPN, even though I have the PPPoE client set to > not apply DNS settings from the DHCP server). For a personal computer, I can > just keep editing; I have to fix the

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Remco wrote: > On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 19:28, Derek Broughton wrote: > >> As for whether they'll understand - that's what the tool is for, to make it >> _possible_ for them to understand. The people you would aim such a tool at >> certainly don't have a clue about virtual hosts, but they do kn

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

> On the otherhand however we see that a gui has one major advantage: It > visually displays you all the options you have directly and thus, if you > are looking for something, but are unsure what it is, you can just > search through the submenus until you find the right checkbox/dropdown > menu e

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

> Mac OS X Client & Server is pretty good here. The flexibility is > limited, but if you do things the predefined way you can be pretty > sure not to open up a disaster. > > BTW., setting up ssh access, FTP or a simple web server is as easy as > clicking a single button in Mac OS X. I've yet

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

Joao Pinto wrote: > Hello, > > Please explain why this is more convenient/faster than reading the man > >> page? You mean clicking around to see all the options is faster than >> doing 'man page' '/related term' or 'man page' 'Page Down' >> >> > > I hope you are not comparing application in

Re: Ubuntu Domain Server

>> Letting someone use gparted to partition his disk who doesn't know >> anything about partitioning will probably end in a big data desaster. >> And whom will this user blame for it? Certainly not himself for doing >> tasks he doesn't understand but the GUI for letting it do him (even if >> it ha

Re: Trouble with 32 bit Gtk app on 64 bit system

>>> I don't mean to be a "[citation needed] troll", but I've honestly never >>> heard anything suggesting this before. Would you mind explaining how >>> RPMs handle 32/64 better than DEBs? My understanding was that as long as >>> you installed ia32-libs then you shouldn't have to do anything else;