>> Letting someone use gparted to partition his disk who doesn't know
>> anything about partitioning will probably end in a big data desaster.
>> And whom will this user blame for it? Certainly not himself for doing
>> tasks he doesn't understand but the GUI for letting it do him (even if
>> it has big warnings).
>>     
>
> The user can blame anyone he wants. The rest of the world shouldn't
> care about that. I find this whole blaming angle very unproductive.
> Should Gparted not exist? Should Synaptic? Or the PolicyKit editor?
> Rapache? The LVM manager? All can be used to destroy data or create
> security leaks. But all are used to save time for those that
> understand how they work.
>
>   
And we have no problem with that. We have a problem with those who 
believe that such tools should be marketed to the uninitiated. This 
thread was started with the premise of doing what?

"What are your thoughts on having a server product that competes with 
Windows Server? Something which has a GUI, is very easy to manage and 
works best with Ubuntu workstations."

"My theory is that people trying Ubuntu Server are probably Windows
administrators and find it daunting that there's no GUI. If they don't turn
away then, they turn away when they discover there's 48 chapters of Samba
documentation to read through just to get a functional domain server. Very
few administrators would see this as a viable replacement for their Windows
server."

You want to tell me that most Windows administrators cannot handle the command 
line and scripts? You want to tell me that Windows is 'very easy to manage'? 
Right. Maybe for setups that just use the bare minimum, does not use group 
policy and scripts.

But guess what. Microsoft uses a predefined configuration and so they can 
release tools that automate that. I say give those in such situations a 
predefined configuration and a foolproof gui tool but then somebody opposes 
that. I point out that a gui that 'supports' everything is not suitable to the 
uninitiated then somebody accuses me of protecting my iron rice bowl and being 
some elitist jerk.

So, short of an AI, I cannot think of something that will satisfy all you out 
there. If someone can use a manual drive, that one is free to drive a manual or 
an automatic. You don't blame the manual's designer if it cannot accommodate a 
person that only knows how to use an automatic nor a semi-automatic's designer 
if the person does not understand the effects of trying to start off in the 
highest gear.




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