Adobe Flash Broken For Obvious Case?

2013-05-21 Thread Ma Xiaojun
Hi, ( I know this can be made into a bug report. ) On 13.04 64bit with Adobe Flash installed. Go to youtube.com, play any video, right-click and select "Settings..." Then a dialog pops up, but it doesn't respond to user click at all; the only way to "close" it is refresh the page... I know Adob

Re: Adobe Flash Broken For Obvious Case?

2013-05-21 Thread Jordon Bedwell
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: > Hi, > > ( I know this can be made into a bug report. ) > > On 13.04 64bit with Adobe Flash installed. > > Go to youtube.com, play any video, right-click and select "Settings..." > Then a dialog pops up, but it doesn't respond to user click at al

Authentication services in Ubuntu

2013-05-21 Thread Bolesław Tokarski
Hello, I put some time and effort creating this, please read at the very least introduction and suggestions. = Introduction = I am a maintaining the Ubuntu deployment in Tieto company. We have over 500 Ubuntu desktops. I am also trying to gather the Ubuntu Enterprise community (see https://

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Benjamin Kerensa wrote on 20/05/13 18:02: > > On May 20, 2013 8:10 AM, "Daniel J Blueman" > >> For all the general users I install Ubuntu for (including >> servers), it's an utter waste of bandwidth for everyone, >> particularly when automatically ch

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel J Blueman
I propose we either disable source downloading by default at release time, but I conclude that developers generally don't care about this extra overhead (as we have a good setup). If really we can't see this from a user PoV, I'm happy to start a user discussion and see how users feel...? -- Ubun

Re: Adobe Flash Broken For Obvious Case?

2013-05-21 Thread John Lenton
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: > > On 13.04 64bit with Adobe Flash installed. > > Go to youtube.com, play any video, right-click and select "Settings..." > Then a dialog pops up, but it doesn't respond to user click at all; > the only way to "close" it is refresh the page... >

Re: Adobe Flash Broken For Obvious Case?

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Dienstag, den 21.05.2013, 04:30 -0500 schrieb Jordon Bedwell: > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: > > Hi, > > > > ( I know this can be made into a bug report. ) > > > > On 13.04 64bit with Adobe Flash installed. > > > > Go to youtube.com, play any video, right-click and select

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Robie Basak
(with my personal hat on) On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 01:48:47PM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: > I think that's legally sufficient, but not in the spirit of free software. I agree that it's legally sufficient. I also agree that making the sources easily available for download is part of the essentia

Re: Adobe Flash Broken For Obvious Case?

2013-05-21 Thread Daniel Hollocher
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 5:30 AM, Jordon Bedwell wrote: > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Ma Xiaojun wrote: > > Hi, > > > > ( I know this can be made into a bug report. ) > > > > On 13.04 64bit with Adobe Flash installed. > > > > Go to youtube.com, play any video, right-click and select "Settings

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Martin Pitt
Robie Basak [2013-05-21 13:55 +0100]: > Why don't we talk about ways to make it just as easy, but without the > requirement that indexes are downloaded locally even when they are not > being used? pull-lp-source and pull-debian-source are about as easy as it can be IMHO, and offer a lot more funct

Re: Authentication services in Ubuntu

2013-05-21 Thread Bear Giles
I'm pretty sure the default encryption is relative week is because the packages are distributed internationally. Cryptographic software is consider a munition and subject to ITAR regulation. Many countries restrict what can be imported and/or used within the country. I think the most common soluti

Re: Authentication services in Ubuntu

2013-05-21 Thread Bear Giles
Grr - "weak", not "week". Why do I never remember that I should never write email until I've been awake for at least two hours?! Embarassingly, Bear On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 7:47 AM, Bear Giles wrote: > I'm pretty sure the default encryption is relative week is because the > packages are distri

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread J Fernyhough
On 21 May 2013 13:55, Robie Basak wrote: > What if we provided a reasonable message if no deb-src lines are > defined, with a single simple command to add them and run "apt-get > update" for you? I don't think it would even need that - software-properties (Software & Updates) already has the nece

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Dienstag, den 21.05.2013, 18:02 +0800 schrieb Daniel J Blueman: > I propose we either disable source downloading by default at release > time, but I conclude that developers generally don't care about this > extra overhead (as we have a good setup). > > If really we can't see this from a user

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Robie Basak
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 03:04:20PM +0100, J Fernyhough wrote: > On 21 May 2013 13:55, Robie Basak wrote: > > What if we provided a reasonable message if no deb-src lines are > > defined, with a single simple command to add them and run "apt-get > > update" for you? > > I don't think it would even

Re: any plymouth ...

2013-05-21 Thread Thomas Prost
Am Donnerstag, den 16.05.2013, 15:54 -0400 schrieb Felix Miata: > On 2013-05-16 21:27 (GMT+0200) Thomas Prost composed: > > > Martin Pitt wrote: > > >> Thomas Prost wrote: > > >> > So the question is: What must I do to carry on, seeing all what the > >> > machine is doing - instead of that nice

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Dale Amon
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 06:02:36PM +0800, Daniel J Blueman wrote: > I propose we either disable source downloading by default at release > time, but I conclude that developers generally don't care about this > extra overhead (as we have a good setup). > > If really we can't see this from a user Po

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Dylan McCall
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Dale Amon wrote: > Source is an educational tool. > Learning command line is a lesson in taking control of your own computer. > Kids explore. > > Make sure J Random's computer is full of things to intrigue and > lead a 13 year old to the power of the source. Perso

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Dale Amon
On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 03:22:50PM +0100, Robie Basak wrote: > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 03:04:20PM +0100, J Fernyhough wrote: > > On 21 May 2013 13:55, Robie Basak wrote: > > > What if we provided a reasonable message if no deb-src lines are > > > defined, with a single simple command to add them a

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Dienstag, den 21.05.2013, 09:31 -0700 schrieb Dylan McCall: > On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Dale Amon wrote: > > Source is an educational tool. > > Learning command line is a lesson in taking control of your own computer. > > Kids explore. > > > > Make sure J Random's computer is full of thi

Re: Authentication services in Ubuntu

2013-05-21 Thread Patrick Goetz
On 05/21/2013 04:53 AM, ubuntu-devel-discuss-requ...@lists.ubuntu.com wrote: Hopefully, the SSL bug in LDAP libraries is now gone (Bug #423252), so the first 2 can be used productively on desktops and/or servers. Note that cached credentials (with nss-updatedb and pam-ccreds) are not officially

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Scott Moser
Hi, I'm kind of late to this thread, but I'd like to add my opinion. Personally, I think we have to many entries in sources.list. Anyone suggesting that there is little cost to entries simply hasn't tested things. There is a very real cost to having unused entries, in bandwidth, load on a proxy

Re: Authentication services in Ubuntu

2013-05-21 Thread Alec Warner
We use nsscache for caching, but this package is also from universe...except my company wrote and maintains it, so I'm OK with it being in universe ;) -A On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 1:20 PM, Patrick Goetz wrote: > On 05/21/2013 04:53 AM, > ubuntu-devel-discuss-request@**lists.ubuntu.comwrote: > >>

Re: Authentication services in Ubuntu

2013-05-21 Thread Timo Aaltonen
On 21.05.2013 12:37, Bolesław Tokarski wrote: > Hello, > > I put some time and effort creating this, please read at the very least > introduction and suggestions. Thanks, this was quite a detailed post and brings back memories :) > We are using SSSD with some success now. Thanks to Timo Aaltonen

Re: Source packages appropriate by default?

2013-05-21 Thread Florian Diesch
Am Mon, 20 May 2013 10:02:41 -0700 schrieb Benjamin Kerensa : > I think in most parts of the world 4MB is trivial overhead for a user. Over here in German cheap mobile data tarrifs often get you something like a few hundered MByte/month. In some rural areas it's hard to get better than 64k/s if