Re: New Programs for Hardy?

Am 13.12.2007 um 08:41 schrieb Mackenzie Morgan: > Until CD drives go the way of 5.25" floppy drives, I think we need > to keep > install CDs around. Making DVD isos with more stuff available is > fine, but > the main part of the distro should fit on a CD. What about a "feature" CD? I mean,

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

On Dec 13, 2007 1:41 AM, Mackenzie Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Until CD drives go the way of 5.25" floppy drives, I think we need to keep > install CDs around. A 'back of the envelope' calculation: 1. Ubuntu can still work (albeit a bit on the slow side) on a 500 MHz machine with 256 MB

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

Markus Hitter wrote: > > Am 13.12.2007 um 08:41 schrieb Mackenzie Morgan: > >> Until CD drives go the way of 5.25" floppy drives, I think we need to >> keep >> install CDs around. Making DVD isos with more stuff available is >> fine, but >> the main part of the distro should fit on a CD. > >

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 02:36 -0600, Conrad Knauer wrote: > So let's use that as a dividing line; let's keep the 32-bit x86 disks > as CDs, BUT... let's switch the 64-bit disks to DVDs. It's not uncommon for some servers to come with just a CD ROM drive (I manage a Dell PowerEdge running 64-bit dapp

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

But server install and desktop install are really different. The server install disk wouldn't need to have even half of what the regular install disk has because you don't need any of that GUI junk on a server. On Dec 13, 2007 3:51 AM, Michael R. Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-1

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

On Dec 13, 2007 2:51 AM, Michael R. Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > So let's use that as a dividing line; let's keep the 32-bit x86 disks > > as CDs, BUT... let's switch the 64-bit disks to DVDs. > > It's not uncommon for some servers to come with just a CD ROM drive (I > manage a Dell PowerEd

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

It makes me think more of those add-on packs or booster packs...whatever they call them...with video games. You know, there's The Sims and then you add on Vacation and Hot Date and Makin' Magic and whatever else they had? On Dec 13, 2007 3:46 AM, Blaise Alleyne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

On Dec 13, 2007 2:36 AM, Conrad Knauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For the 32-bit CDs, let's have a fully functional install on a single > CD. We can freeze the apps at roughly the current set and any new > ones can be put in an 'ubuntu-extras' metapackage. 32-bit users can > install the packag

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

Chris Jones wrote: >> -- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 05:06:18 -0600 >> From: "Conrad Knauer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: Fwd: Mono (Re: New Programs for Hardy?) >> To: "Ubuntu Developer Discussion Mailing List" >

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 03:51 -0500, Michael R. Head wrote: > On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 02:36 -0600, Conrad Knauer wrote: > > So let's use that as a dividing line; let's keep the 32-bit x86 disks > > as CDs, BUT... let's switch the 64-bit disks to DVDs. > > It's not uncommon for some servers to come wit

Re: Fwd: Mono (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

On Wed, 2007-12-12 at 18:51 -0600, Conrad Knauer wrote: > On Dec 12, 2007 2:36 PM, Kevin Fries <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So going the other way from removing Mono, are there any mono-based > libre software apps in the repos you'd like to see moved onto the > default desktop? Not specifically.

Q: Reason for partitioning scheme?

WARNING LONG POST DUE TO IN-DEPTH JUSTIFICATION: I was just curious if anyone knows, without starting a flame war please, why Ubuntu went with the default partitioning scheme they did? It seems to me, that especially with the demographic that Ubuntu professes to be targeting, a more sophisticated

Re: Q: Reason for partitioning scheme?

On 2007/12/13 10:09 (GMT-0700) Kevin Fries apparently typed: > My first partition is Windows if it will be installed on the system. > This way, no matter what I do with partitions in Linux, the Windows C: > remains fixed. Unless Vista changed something, C: is always a primary FAT* or NTFS partiti

Re: Q: Reason for partitioning scheme?

Am 13.12.2007 um 18:09 schrieb Kevin Fries: > did not adopt a more protective partitioning > scheme like this? And more importantly, should we? /home and the system it's self should reside in different partitions to make backup and system reinstallation more straightforward. Regarding your /

Re: Q: Reason for partitioning scheme?

On 2007/12/13 18:59 (GMT+0100) Markus Hitter apparently typed: > I can't find an urgent need for a /boot partition either I wonder if you read carefully what he wrote about "/boot". Including a primary partition that is or could be /boot makes a system more robust. http://lists.opensuse.org/opens

Ubuntu Screens/Resolutions Management - or the reason i still MUST use m$ windows

Hi Guys, first I want to apologize if this topic has been talked about before (which is what I hope) but congratulate to all those great improvements Ubuntu made over the last years. Now to my problem. My problem's I love Ubuntu and Linux in general, but I really CAN'T use it for one simple reaso

Re: Q: Reason for partitioning scheme?

On Dec 14, 2007 2:59 AM, Markus Hitter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, my favorite for a desktop is a two partition design. One for / > and one for /home. > > If you miss a swap partition, you've read correctly. With 2 GB or > more of physical RAM these days, there is no real need for swapping > a

Re: Ubuntu Screens/Resolutions Management - or the reason i still MUST use m$ windows

Le jeudi 13 décembre 2007 à 11:23 +0100, Daniel Bimschas a écrit : > Hi Guys, > > first I want to apologize if this topic has been talked about before > (which is what I hope) but congratulate to all those great > improvements Ubuntu made over the last years. > > Now to my problem. My problem's I

Re: Ubuntu Screens/Resolutions Management - or the reason i still MUST use m$ windows

On Dec 13, 2007 2:20 PM, Aurélien Naldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This problem is indeed well known and a solution is in the work: the X > server included in the latest version of ubuntu included a new version > of the xrandr extension allowing to add and remove screens on the fly. > Graphical

Re: Q: Reason for partitioning scheme?

Am 13.12.2007 um 20:19 schrieb Emmet Hikory: > One of the great advantages of having a swap partition is that > everything becomes unbearably slow in a runaway memory situation, > as opposed to the system losing arbitrary processes to the OOM-killer. The few times I've seen runaway processes

Re: Q: Reason for partitioning scheme?

I definitely agree that the single / partition isn't the best way to go. My preference is swap /boot /home / While other partitions can be useful, this covers the most important areas (user data, settings, and the ability to continue to boot Windows/OSX regardless of what happens to Ubuntu). Jus

Re: Ubuntu Screens/Resolutions Management - or the reason i still MUST use m$ windows

Le jeudi 13 décembre 2007 à 15:05 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan a écrit : > On Dec 13, 2007 2:20 PM, Aurélien Naldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > This problem is indeed well known and a solution is in the > work: the X > server included in the latest version of ubuntu included a

Re: Q: Reason for partitioning scheme?

/boot also is useful for those with very old systems and large hard drives. When the motherboard can't detect past a certain cylinder, making sure /boot is right up front can let a user have a 100GB hard drive on a 10 year old computer. On Dec 13, 2007 3:58 PM, Evan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I

Re: Ubuntu Screens/Resolutions Management - or the reason i still MUST use m$ windows

Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > On Dec 13, 2007 2:20 PM, Aurélien Naldi <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > This problem is indeed well known and a solution is in the work: the X > server included in the latest version of ubuntu included a new version > of the xrandr

Re: Ubuntu Screens/Resolutions Management - or the reason i still MUST use m$ windows

On Dec 13, 2007 4:32 PM, Till Kamppeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Yes, you need to take the "intel" driver. After I switched from the > "i810" to the "intel" driver I could use a projector with my laptop, at > least after restarting X. > >Till Don't you then run into the problem where if

Re: Ubuntu Screens/Resolutions Management - or the reason i still MUST use m$ windows

Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > On Dec 13, 2007 4:32 PM, Till Kamppeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > > Yes, you need to take the "intel" driver. After I switched from the > "i810" to the "intel" driver I could use a projector with my laptop, at > least after res

Re: Q: Reason for partitioning scheme?

On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 16:09 -0500, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > /boot also is useful for those with very old systems and large hard > drives. When the motherboard can't detect past a certain cylinder, > making sure /boot is right up front can let a user have a 100GB hard > drive on a 10 year old co

Re: Ubuntu Screens/Resolutions Management - or the reason i still MUST use m$ windows

On Dec 13, 2007 4:42 PM, Till Kamppeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > > On Dec 13, 2007 4:32 PM, Till Kamppeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > Yes, you need to take the "intel" driver. After I switched from the > > "i810" to the "

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

Hi, Chris Jones [2007-12-13 15:23 +1000]: > Why is there so much focus on keeping the Ubuntu installer to the very > limited size of a CD-R ISO? I think this is one of Ubuntu's greatest features: - DVD burners still comparatively rare, especially in the non-western world - an even higher

Re: Q: Reason for partitioning scheme?

On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 15:58 -0500, Evan wrote: > I definitely agree that the single / partition isn't the best way to > go. My preference is > > swap > /boot > /home > / > > While other partitions can be useful, this covers the most important > areas (user data, settings, and the ability to cont

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

Kevin Fries wrote: > One idea that Debian has had for years, that I am surprised that Ubuntu > did not follow -- especially with servers -- was the idea of the minimal > install CD ( < 50MB to fit on a mini-cd or flash stick) that was little > more than a debootstrap install. Then everything was o

Re: New Programs for Hardy?

The alternate disk can install a full system or can do a "server" install which is just the base system. After a server install, you are dropped to a command-line-only system. On Dec 13, 2007 5:17 PM, Blaise Alleyne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Kevin Fries wrote: > > One idea that Debian has had

Re: Ubuntu Screens/Resolutions Management - or the reason i still MUST use m$ windows

On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:32:21PM +, Till Kamppeter wrote: > Yes, you need to take the "intel" driver. After I switched from the > "i810" to the "intel" driver I could use a projector with my laptop, at > least after restarting X. Have you tried running xrandr --auto ? -- Ubuntu-devel-dis

abicollab in abiword?

hi folks, i don't normally use abiword much but my daughter is getting a olpc xo-1 for christmas from her grandfather, and i would really like to be able to collaborate with her on documents. The xo-1's version of abiword has a very simple "share this" feature, which seems cool, but i can't seem

Re: Ubuntu Screens/Resolutions Management - or the reason i still MUST use m$ windows

Mikael Eriksson wrote: > On Thu, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:32:21PM +, Till Kamppeter wrote: > >> Yes, you need to take the "intel" driver. After I switched from the >> "i810" to the "intel" driver I could use a projector with my laptop, at >> least after restarting X. >> > > Have you tried r

Re: Mono (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

-- Forwarded message -- From: Tony Yarusso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Dec 13, 2007 6:57 PM Subject: Re: Fwd: Mono (Re: New Programs for Hardy?) To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't know much about the technical details of Mono, but I can say this: a) I don't care about

Re: Strawman: merge main and universe

Scott James Remnant schrieb: > I'd like to make a strawman proposal to be torn apart and burnt as > necessary: merge main and universe. I will try and explain my > rationale, and my alternate proposal. +1 We apparently have difficulties to communicate that this separation was done only for the s

Re: Mono (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

I'm not sure I'd say Tomboy and Sticky Notes are for the same thing. Sticky notes are good for quick notes like "call 555 666- about car" and just plain suck for long notes. Tomboy, because of it's wiki style, is very useful for much longer, more detailed notes. Tomboy's use case is more alon

Re: Mono (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

On Dec 13, 2007 7:57 PM, Tony Yarusso <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Additionally, Scribus and Inkscape are also pretty cool, but adding a Qt > dependency to a Gnome install makes no sense. Now, if Kubuntu wants to look > at these that might be a decent idea, and could provide a unique attraction >

Re: Mono (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

> I'm not sure about Conduit. It's definitely not something I would use, > though I can see its usefulness for others (same way I feel about F-Spot). > It makes me think of that online GNOME project, which seems to be really > just a lot of hooks into social networking sites. While the 15-30 crow

Re: Mono (Re: New Programs for Hardy?)

On Dec 14, 2007 1:35 AM, John Carr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * syncing your contacts, tomboy notes and F-spot images between PCs. > (Avahi based discovery) > * syncing to mobile devices, particularly windows mobile and > blackberry are under active development as part of an /ubuntu > orientante