Re: The google custom search

2009-07-27 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 27/07/2009 17:42, Vincenzo Ciancia ha scritto: > the forms submitted to > ubuntu.com The forms are not submitted to ubuntu.com so that is a non-issue. Changed the bug accordingly. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: h

The google custom search

2009-07-27 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
[Please notice the cross-post and use the reply button accordingly] As there were many bugs related to the subject in launchpad, I did not consider the possibility that a separate bug on the "phylosophical" issue could be filed. I was convinced to do that on IRC. Communication is good. Here I

Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?

2009-07-27 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
hat I was not referring to the multi-search. So if you know something about the google custom search you can reply to the first message and I will not injury anyone. Being direct and being polite may live together. I know that it is easier to not reply when it can likely cause a mess. But

Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?

2009-07-27 Thread Andrew Sayers
Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > The fact that there is nobody willing to reply (I posted a similar > message one year ago, so this is certainly not a matter of time) can > mean only two things: > > 1) on this list, nobody knows the answer. I think this is likely. Then, > the custom search should be r

Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?

2009-07-27 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
> Are you not part of this community? > No, I am not a developer. I am part of the broader community of ubuntu users (I do lots of bug reporting). If I write to ubuntu-devel-discuss maybe there is some developer on it, and maybe they can even communicate between each other. But let us stop que

Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?

2009-07-27 Thread Remco
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > That's the most "universal" place that I know where users and developers > may meet. Certainly ubuntu-devel is not the right place (maybe it's even > moderated?). How can you be sure ubuntu-mozilla developers and maybe > M.S. are not readin

Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?

2009-07-27 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 27/07/2009 12:26, Sebastien Bacher ha scritto: > (could you stop private copying me and reply on the list?) > > On lun., 2009-07-27 at 12:16 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: >> Sebastian: did you notice another message that has been there for one >> year? > > How does that change the fact that the

Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?

2009-07-27 Thread Sebastien Bacher
(could you stop private copying me and reply on the list?) On lun., 2009-07-27 at 12:16 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > Sebastian: did you notice another message that has been there for one > year? How does that change the fact that the people you want to reach might not be reading the list yo

Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?

2009-07-27 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 27/07/2009 10:46, Sebastien Bacher ha scritto: > On sam., 2009-07-25 at 16:45 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: >> 1) on this list, nobody knows the answer. I think this is likely. >> Then, >> the custom search should be removed from firefox. Nobody knows why it >> is >> there. > > You seem to jump

Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?

2009-07-27 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 27/07/2009 10:52, Alan Pope ha scritto: > > ..or read his blog post about it:) > > http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/archives/162-What-is-this-Multisearch-thing-in-my-Firefox-about.html > > (which I can see Vincenzo already has, and has indeed commented on it > [assuming that's Vincenzo]). When som

Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?

2009-07-27 Thread Alan Pope
2009/7/27 Sebastien Bacher : > Wouldn't it make sense to rather try contacting the maintainer or the > ubuntu mozilla team about the issue or to open a bug on launchpad so you > can get a reply from the people doing the changes? > ..or read his blog post about it :) http://www.asoftsite.org/s9y/a

Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?

2009-07-27 Thread Sebastien Bacher
On sam., 2009-07-25 at 16:45 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > 1) on this list, nobody knows the answer. I think this is likely. > Then, > the custom search should be removed from firefox. Nobody knows why it > is > there. You seem to jump to a weird conclusion, because busy maintainers don't re

Re: The google custom search - and the invasion of the multisearch

2009-07-26 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
The worst thing of it all is that whenever ubuntu touches firefox (e.g. I installed today the italian localization because when I installed karmic it was not available) it OVERWRITES MY SETTINGS WITH YOURS. I call this hammering and normally would ban the user, except that I can't yet ban ubunt

Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?

2009-07-25 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
> [1]: > http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/mozilla-extends-lucrative-deal-with-google-for-3-years/ Oli, thanks for this link. So next time I'll see some crappy microsoft search engine by default in internet explorer I will not laugh at their users anymore. V. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss maili

Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?

2009-07-25 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 26/07/2009 03:34, Jan Claeys ha scritto: >> The custom search is quite annoying and intrusive. I've resorted to >> > using the binary download. > > Eh, you know that you can add/remove whatever search engine you want, > don't you? > Jan, did you read my e-mails? It is clear to everybody that

Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?

2009-07-25 Thread Oli Warner
Yes, the search is poorly done. It looks bad. It's a simple tool on Google available to anybody to make a branded search engine and make money from it. What is trying to be done though, isn't unprecedented. The simplest and most relevant example to pull off the top of my head is Mozilla having a l

Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?

2009-07-25 Thread Jan Claeys
Op zaterdag 25-07-2009 om 11:36 uur [tijdzone -0400], schreef dan: > The custom search is quite annoying and intrusive. I've resorted to > using the binary download. Eh, you know that you can add/remove whatever search engine you want, don't you? -- Jan Claeys -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailin

Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?

2009-07-25 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Il 25/07/2009 17:36, dan ha scritto: > The custom search is quite annoying and intrusive. I've resorted to > using the binary download. Me too, but my concern is: is it worth to continue pushing ubuntu among my friends and colleagues, if they pass over such an issue without commenting? I do not

Re: The google custom search

2009-07-25 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
I am talking about. The multisearch is an experimental feature. But the google custom search has been there since hardy. There is a lot of confusion about the two things. I would like to learn about the google custom search in the default page, and ideally would like to see a short text and a

Re: The google custom search

2009-07-25 Thread Mario Vukelic
On Fri, 2009-07-24 at 07:34 +0200, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > Dear all, > > today I noticed that the consistency problem between the default > ubuntu start page, which is a custom google search, and the search box > at the top-right of firefox, has finally been solved. Now also the > search box is

Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?

2009-07-25 Thread dan
The custom search is quite annoying and intrusive. I've resorted to using the binary download. dan --- Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Open Standards! On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:45 AM, Vincenzo Ciancia wrote: > The fact that there is nobody willing to reply (I posted a similar > message one

Re: The google custom search - perhaps it went there by itself?

2009-07-25 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
The fact that there is nobody willing to reply (I posted a similar message one year ago, so this is certainly not a matter of time) can mean only two things: 1) on this list, nobody knows the answer. I think this is likely. Then, the custom search should be removed from firefox. Nobody knows wh

Re: The google custom search

2009-07-24 Thread Sense Hofstede
2009/7/24 Vincenzo Ciancia : > Dear all, > > today I noticed that the consistency problem between the default ubuntu > start page, which is a custom google search, and the search box at the > top-right of firefox, has finally been solved. Now also the search box > is a custom search. > > I already

Re: The google custom search - clarification

2009-07-23 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
I see that there are open bugs in launchpad about the google custom search, mostly related to the multisearch add-on. This is said to be in testing. But my e-mail is about the default firefox home page, and the necessity to push a google custom search anyways. The default page was the custom

The google custom search

2009-07-23 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Dear all, today I noticed that the consistency problem between the default ubuntu start page, which is a custom google search, and the search box at the top-right of firefox, has finally been solved. Now also the search box is a custom search. I already tried to raise the problem that average