Password-protect grub interactive commands (was: rationale of root access from boot)

2007-11-09 Thread Nicolas Deschildre
On Nov 4, 2007 6:35 PM, Oystein Viggen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * ["Nicolas Deschildre"] > > > My point was not about the parameter itself. My point was about the > > ability to edit the kernel parameters while booting. > > IIRC lilo won't allow you that. > > http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/ma

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-09 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
> Aaron C. de Bruyn: > > Upgrading simply because there is a newer version number is the wrong > > attitude. > > It's not that fact that it's a newer version (number): it's that it's a > final, stable release versus a non-final non-stable release. And what makes a release stable or non-stable?

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-09 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
Scott (angrykeyboarder) spake thusly: > Sebastian Heinlein spake thusly: >> Am Donnerstag, den 08.11.2007, 20:58 -0700 schrieb Scott >> (angrykeyboarder): >>> None that would "interest" [some Ubuntu] developers, I suppose >> You should get used to talk about facts. > > As I implied previously

Re: Release candidates in main - was: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-09 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
Kai Schroeder spake: > Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: >>> Gutsy shipped with a *non-final* release of The GIMP (2.4 RC3, to be >>> specific). > > Apart from the question whether an update should land in updates or > backports, I think there definitely is a valid point here: Users have > been taugh

Re: GetDeb Project

2007-11-09 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
Scott Kitterman spake thusly: > > You provide packages that are newer/not in the official repositories. With > the exception of packages that are legally questionable for the official > repositories, why? Why? Because people want newer packages. And trying to get them through "official cha

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-09 Thread George Farris
On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 19:26 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:48:55 -0700 "Scott (angrykeyboarder)" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Gutsy shipped with a *non-final* release of The GIMP (2.4 RC3, to be > >specific). > > > >In situations of this type (my) logic would dictate th

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-09 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Le jeudi 08 novembre 2007 à 21:22 -0700, Scott (angrykeyboarder) a écrit : > Cool. Leave us with a *major* app (ordinarily in the main repository) > for months without official support. Sounds like a good plan to me. The package is support as any main package in Ubuntu, your statement is just no

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-09 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Aaron C. de Bruyn: > Upgrading simply because there is a newer version number is the wrong > attitude. It's not that fact that it's a newer version (number): it's that it's a final, stable release versus a non-final non-stable release. -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-09 Thread Aaron C. de Bruyn
> Wouldn't logic dictate that if their latest release was for bugfixes, > that they would recommend an update? Or do developers update software > "just for the heck of it"? I haven't done an official study or anything, but I'd be willing to bet that a month after Gutsy is out, about half the pack

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-09 Thread Vincenzo Ciancia
Daniel T. Chen ha scritto: > On Thu, 2007-11-08 at 19:26 -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> As a rule, developers aren't terribly impressed by version numbers. What >> problem are you >> having that you think this would fix and that is severe enough to warrant a >> stable release >> update? > >

Re: Release candidates in main - was: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-09 Thread Bonilla, Alejandro
On Fri, 2007-11-09 at 13:47 +, randall wrote: > Greg K Nicholson wrote: > > Kai Schroeder: > > > >> Now, every time they start the gimp, a > >> splash screen appears which says "release candidate" > >> > > > > (Actually, it says “release conadidate”, for me anyway :) ) > > > > > > > at least we

Re: Release candidates in main - was: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-09 Thread randall
Greg K Nicholson wrote: > Kai Schroeder: > >> Now, every time they start the gimp, a >> splash screen appears which says "release candidate" >> > > (Actually, it says “release conadidate”, for me anyway :) ) > > > at least we have a bug now! -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-

Re: A Wine-like compatibility layer to run Mac OS X programs on Linux?

2007-11-09 Thread Greg K Nicholson
OK, thanks. Just wondering out loud. :) -- Greg -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: Release candidates in main - was: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-09 Thread Greg K Nicholson
Kai Schroeder: > Now, every time they start the gimp, a > splash screen appears which says "release candidate" (Actually, it says “release conadidate”, for me anyway :) ) -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists

Re: Release candidates in main

2007-11-09 Thread Emmet Hikory
On Nov 9, 2007 9:00 PM, Kai Schroeder writes: > Apart from the question whether an update should land in updates or > backports, I think there definitely is a valid point here: Users have > been taught that beta software (or release candidates) should not be > used on production machines. Now, ever

Release candidates in main - was: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-09 Thread Kai Schroeder
Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: > > Gutsy shipped with a *non-final* release of The GIMP (2.4 RC3, to be > > specific). Apart from the question whether an update should land in updates or backports, I think there definitely is a valid point here: Users have been taught that beta software (or releas

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday 09 November 2007 04:09, Scott (angrykeyboarder) wrote: > Reinhard Tartler spake thusly: > > "Scott (angrykeyboarder)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> None that would "interest" [some Ubuntu] developers, I suppose > >> > >> OK... > >> > >> Off to plan B. > >> > >> getdeb.net > >> > >>

Re: A Wine-like compatibility layer to run Mac OS X programs on Linux?

2007-11-09 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 09.11.2007 um 02:28 schrieb Greg K Nicholson: > Is a compatibility layer (like Wine) to run Mac OS X programs on Linux > feasible? Does one already exist? I'm aware of about 5 emulators (PearPC, mac-on-linux, Basilisk, SheepShaver, qemu) having various extents of Mac OS and Mac OS X suppo

Re: Windows Program Support

2007-11-09 Thread Markus Hitter
Am 09.11.2007 um 02:15 schrieb Evan: > When a binary is [attempted to] run, instead of giving the current > error, provide a dialogue that notifies the user of the fact that > it is a Windows program that cannot be run normally under Ubuntu. While additional funtionality might be desireable,

debtorrent for package distribution in Ubuntu

2007-11-09 Thread Kristian Erik Hermansen
Very cool... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/106382 -- Kristian Erik Hermansen -- Ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list Ubuntu-devel-discuss@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel-discuss

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-09 Thread Scott (angrykeyboarder)
Reinhard Tartler spake thusly: > "Scott (angrykeyboarder)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> None that would "interest" [some Ubuntu] developers, I suppose >> >> OK... >> >> Off to plan B. >> >> getdeb.net >> >> Oh wait, Ubuntu developers get upset when users go elsewhere for updated >> versio

Re: Windows Program Support

2007-11-09 Thread Scott Ritchie
Scott Kitterman wrote: > > My initial thought to the is please, please, no don't do this. I waited a > couple of hours to reply and I haven't reconsidered. > > Once you make desirable Windows software easy to install, you've made all > Windows software easy to install. It seems the most commo

Re: GIMP *final* release for Gutsy?

2007-11-09 Thread Reinhard Tartler
"Scott (angrykeyboarder)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > None that would "interest" [some Ubuntu] developers, I suppose > > OK... > > Off to plan B. > > getdeb.net > > Oh wait, Ubuntu developers get upset when users go elsewhere for updated > versions of software... > > OK.. > > Off to plan C.