On Thu, Nov 28, 2024 at 06:24:48PM +0100, Adrien Nader wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 27, 2024, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Hi Adrien,
> > On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 05:26:49PM +0100, Adrien Nader wrote:
> > > For rust, I'm wondering if it's worth working on the packages unle
r them. I guess IRC and providing retry
> links would have been more efficient but it still requires involving
> several people which will lead to latency and frustration. Except by
> broadening retry rights, I'm not sure how to really fix that however.
we should in general be broa
rability it makes
sense to go for in the installer. The admin can always customize the
install after reboot by adding and removing packages to taste.
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nt of it at the archive level (this wouldn't even be meaningful),
so in the devel series we rely on individual uploaders to check/enforce this
(just as we do in Debian).
The SRU process however has an additional review step with the SRU team, so
it is possible to impose such a check at that po
g/
> > [2] https://www.percona.com/blog/is-oracle-finally-killing-mysql/
> > [3]
> > https://jfg-mysql.blogspot.com/2023/11/thoughts-on-october-2023-mysql-releases.html
> > [4]
> > https://www.percona.com/blog/do-not-upgrade-to-any-version-of-mysql-after
ests (rationale is in the bug report):
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nield/+bug/2079349
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glosstex/+bug/2079355
Removed.
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sslh/+bug/2079513
Follow-up question added.
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e less locked memory available than on other archs, due to a
kernel difference. Provided a partial patch to let tests be skipped when
locked memory can't be allocated, but one test still fails. Uploaded, and
forwarded the patch to Debian. https://bugs.debian.org/1081220.
#x27;s not really consistent with the schema we use in Ubuntu. I've moved
these packages to multiverse altogether (source and binary).
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est/edge for LXD. I confirmed the fix myself just now.
We don't deploy from latest/edge in production, nor should we. Do we have
an ETA for when this will land in the stable channels for LXD that are used
by default in the Ubuntu LTSes?
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is to remove those packages from the archive and
> reintroduce them once the `ruby-rack` v3 transition is completely
> finished.
The main issue with this is that we have no way to track when such packages
should be re-added.
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would certainly be
prioritized accordingly.
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list is: was anyone using this script, and if so, are
you attached to the non-"batch" mode? If not, I would like to make the
"batch" mode the mode, dropping the requirement for the --batch argument.
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are removed from
> > Ubuntu.
> I think that would be a very good policy, actually.
You *personally* think that there should be such a policy. Many other
Debian maintainers would be very angry to receive such notifications. And
we currently don't have any mechanism for such not
I would consider this. It
would require an actual SRU process for mrbuild, since that package has
other reverse-build-dependencies in noble (libdogleg, mrgingham, vnlog)
which should not be allowed to regress; but provided there is a proper SRU
test case to assert this, I think it's a sensib
ted while logged in can be viewed
> anonymously and a paste created anonymously (e.g. by pastebinit, which I
> don't think supports logging in?) requires a login to view.
Ok, I was unaware of this nuance. That being the case, I don't think "login
required" is a soun
uiring authentication on the SUBMISSION side is sufficient reason to
change the default pastebin, then that of course isn't something we should
second-guess; we don't need to be reinvesting anonymous ftp servers. But in
that case, I think there should have been a discussion about who the de
ile, and I don't like this pointing to a service we
don't control.
And if there are issues with the usability of paste.ubuntu.com, uh, we own
that service? So let's work with our IS team to make it fit for purpose.
(I don't know why it currently requires a login to *view* pas
the Debian bug tracker.
>
> Thanks, Matthias
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n you verify that the previous version of the package in Ubuntu builds in
noble?
See also https://bugs.debian.org/1059658
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eded:
> https://git.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-server/+git/ubuntu-helpers/tree/rbasak/clear-review-slot.py
Please submit this to ubuntu-dev-tools :-)
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e locally but it fails to
> build on LP due to dh_missing complaining.
Are you using up-to-date debhelper on noble? There have been recent changes
in debhelper's handling of systemd units, precisely for the /lib vs /usr/lib
question.
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nd we are dropping
the patch, it would seem to have the opposite effect to what you've written.
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etween releases, and the release upgrade is the
time for the user to discover this is the case and deal with it (as part of
a maintenance window).
Otherwise, you're really just shifting the pain. Ubuntu X went EOL, I have
to reinstall, I install Ubuntu X+1 which is what I had installed before,
On Tue, Dec 19, 2023 at 08:20:04AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 05:22:37PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Removing obsolete NBS kernels from trusty as described in June [1] went
> > without any problems being reported.
> > I am therefore plannin
On Sun, Dec 10, 2023 at 05:22:37PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Removing obsolete NBS kernels from trusty as described in June [1] went
> without any problems being reported.
> I am therefore planning to proceed with the same cleanup now of NBS kernels
> from xenial-{updates,sec
need to be retained
because 16.04.7 was an update only for UEFI architectures (amd64 and arm64).
I am planning to start removing the other NBS kernels from xenial this
coming Friday, December 15.
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smoothly as possible.
We typically wouldn't even do a +really upload, but instead just remove the
broken version from -proposed.
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on, but I have
> absolutely no clue how I would go about doing this, and suspect it's not
> even possible.
It is not possible.
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> support in #ubuntu and #ubuntu-next would not be too keen to lose that one.
> But, again, that's a discussion to be had with the IRC council.
What would be the process for asking #ubuntu-motu to be closed/redirected?
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, maybe a few others?).
I'd therefore like to propose we close this mailing list and forward the
address on to ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.ubuntu.com, which at least has a
larger subscriber base and is more likely to result in users getting help
with their questions.
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ew field for this. If we are going to change the
Sources file at all, the existing "Vcs-Git" field already has the correct
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the thread together.
> On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 at 00:13, Steve Langasek
> wrote:
> > To be clear, it would make a lot of things easier if we did determine we
> > could drop not only BIOS boot support from our images, but also El-Torito
> > ISO boot support treating these
El-Torito
ISO boot support treating these images as only for flashing on USB drives.
It would remove one significant barrier for us adopting ubuntu-image for the
mastering of our installer images. But we should do the work to establish
that these things are no longer needed!
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On Wed, Sep 27, 2023 at 06:38:06PM -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2023 at 04:53:05PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 25, 2023 at 03:22:59PM -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> > > Moreover, there are other use cases beyond test failure fixing.
>
ransfer to the main archive and all have
to be run again, and it's the second run that actually matters for
proposed-migration.
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development, for things not yet landed in the main archive. It certainly
shouldn't be used for long-lived PPAs whose contents are not targeted for
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> classic sources.list, you should be able to do so with:
> $ cp /etc/apt/sources.list{.distUpgrade,}
> $ rm /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ubuntu.sources
Is this entry in the mantic release notes still accurate?
* add-apt-repository now adds PPAs as deb822 .sources files (Improvements to
PPA ma
s files. I would recommend simply
dropping them rather than marking them optional, since if they come back
again that indicates a DIFFERENT problem.
If you need something upstreamable to Debian, then you'll need to mark them
optional since Debian unstable is still on glibc 2.37.
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nd if they
don't have a versioned Depends: for some reason, it should be sufficient to
manually add one.
There had previously been mention on IRC of declaring Breaks: between libc6
and the packages. However, having thought this through just now I believe
that's unnecessary, and also does
Please keep the NBS report in mind as well:
https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/nbs.html
There has not been much progress on this list for roughly a month, and there
are lots of packages here needing active attention of the kind that would
not be blocked by a glibc migration :)
Thank
tarting point for someone to create a doc that distills this for just the
Ubuntu architectures.
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* tests on armhf will have more memory available
than on other architectures. But that memory is also shared across tests,
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s this property that we haven't tampered with
the last-known-good kernel and makes the system less resilient.
We should prioritize resilience of boot recovery over reducing the size of
/boot contents.
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Hi Andreas,
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 06:40:16PM -0300, Andreas Hasenack wrote:
> canonistack isn't an option.
Why? Do we need to open RTs?
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/ubuntu-23.10 980
$
Evidently there is something different in the way desktop-common is being
handled for Edubuntu and Ubuntu Studio, that it's not being seeded there.
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the duplicate request check is
> disabled. I made this quick change to unblock ginggs
Excellent, thank you!
> On Fri, Jul 28, 2023 at 5:19 AM Steve Langasek
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Tim,
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 27, 2023 at 11:10:05AM +0100, Tim Andersson wrote:
> > >
o be present as build-time deps).
So this is a very common pattern for rust packages.
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work
> seamlessly but always expect the unexpected right :)
Does the code also properly distinguish between tests queued with proposed=1
and those without, so that it's possible to queue both ways in parallel?
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or should
remain unchanged for existing kernel+firmware packages, and it's therefore
safe to push more widely.
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zstd support onto jammy's 5.15 kernel.
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pendencies is not an improvement!
I understand the reason for being concerned about keeping uncompressed
firmware available is that not all kernels have support for compressed
firmware. However we should work out a path that lets us switch to
compressed firmware on releases where we know it'
e but a more lightweight process is to ask on #ubuntu-release on IRC
for an archive admin to remove the binaries in such cases.
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> Will the user still be able to add further modules and will machine specific
> configuration files (e.g. for booting from iSCSI) still be included into the
> initrd?
I think a robust implementation of this on the initramfs-tools side looks
like:
- identify all the contents that belong
o archive.
> >
> > The drawback is that building the kernel would take longer, the package
> > takes more space on the archive and mirrors, and downloading them could
> > take longer on slow connections.
> >
> > Implementing my proposal would be relati
an build needs to be adjusted for
> this.
> I have proposed a PR to fix this in Ubuntu, and forwarded to Debian.
Looks like this has been sponsored.
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On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 10:55:21PM +0100, Robie Basak wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 29, 2023 at 02:36:06PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > I think the least-effort approach is for the handling of MPs for sponsorship
> > to match the handling of bugs: ~ubuntu-sponsors is unsubscribed, a
member reviewer as Robie
proposes, but to filter out any MPs from the sponsorship queue which have a
negative review from a sponsor, and no further activity on the MP (either
comments or commits) after that point.
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e new `r-base`, but this makes clear
which ones those are.
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mend to developers for the current setup. Buy-in and adoption of
git-ubuntu as a tool is a necessary precondition for us getting away from
working with source packages, so in my view we have to approach this
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On Wed, Jun 14, 2023 at 03:29:11PM +0200, Paride Legovini wrote:
> Steve Langasek wrote on 13/06/2023:
> > This is the following in my ~/.gitconfig:
> > [url "git+ssh://vor...@git.launchpad.net/"]
> > insteadof = lp:
> > This configur
On Thu, Jun 01, 2023 at 12:55:36PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> Hi folks,
> Well, we found out that removing all NBS kernel packages for stable series
> was not altogether without its problems for users. We have modified the
> removal policy going forward in response to feedback.
an.
* `ruby-jekyll-github-metadata`: more network-based tests. Disabled in
debian/ruby-tests.rake, uploaded, forwarded to Debian.
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gt; PS: one improvement for gu-build would be to print to stdout the various
> steps it goes through; a full, clean and pretty implementation is
> probably fairly difficult but a crude one that is ~60% enough would
> probably a matter of minutes.
Any objections to this being under a -
On Wed, Jun 07, 2023 at 09:27:47PM -0700, Bryce Harrington wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 07, 2023 at 06:41:14PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > As git-ubuntu sees increasing use, including for such things as requests for
> > sponsorship of Debian merges, I've had an itch to s
through, or you're
*not* taking it out of the queue and then you also don't need to be listed
as a separate approver.
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n't speak for the MIR team, I have no objection to them relaxing the
requirement of .symbols files for C++ libraries in main. Just offering some
suggestions on how we can do a better job of automating C++ ABI checks than
we're doing today.
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wrong metadata gets fixed - ideally, by grafting the repo history into the
git-ubuntu repos and then dropping the stale Vcs-* fields.
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*and* apt source the package is meh)
- getting the correct options to dpkg-buildpackage by hand for a package
merge is tedious; this automates -v and -sa arguments.
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dy ignores tests relying on mongodb server. So it should expand the
> ignore list.
>
> Patch https://launchpad.net/bugs/2022332, forwarded to
> https://bugs.debian.org/1037035
Uploaded.
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lings for removals of generic & lts-xenial kernels.
Thanks for pointing this out, I naively assumed that we had rebuilt d-i in
trusty against the last kernels published there before moving to ESM.
I've locally implemented a stay of execution for the above kernel package
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I will leave xenial as-is for the moment, and send further mail before
making any changes to NBS packages there.
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On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 09:40:02AM -0700, Simon Chopin wrote:
> See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rust-gio/+bug/2020880
> See https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rust-graphene-sys/+bug/2020902
Thanks for tagging these update-excuse!
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would enforce correctness
of the list...)
> ((Clearly we need something like germinate to generate the component
> mismatches reports. But maybe not at image build time?))
That's already run on ubuntu-archive-toolbox independently of the image
builds, so would continue to d
gt; 3.6.3-1fakesync1 with only the version number changed.
For future reference, copy-package from lp:ubuntu-archive-tools lets you
resuscitate source packages with their binaries, in this case by doing:
copy-package -b -s lunar-proposed --to-suite mantic-proposed -e 3.6.3-1 \
matplotl
an added
${SUITE}-proposed when building with PROPOSED=1) to get germinate to look at
all the right pockets.
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els?
The general policy for apport is to disallow bug report submissions if the
executable or any of the loaded libraries are from out-of-date packages.
But it will still be possible to download these older packages from
Launchpad: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+publishinghis
NBS kernel packages on an ongoing basis, not just at EOL time.
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ed.
In the future, please focus more on the latter, as that's what's actually
required to resolve the issues - few will read your email on ubuntu-devel in
depth, fewer will remember what your analysis was (or be able to find it
later). As a result, it's more efficient overall to
weler/+bug/2015305
>
> The ruby-oauth2 migration will also allow ruby-omniauth-google-oauth2
> migration.
Removed!
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On Thu, Mar 30, 2023 at 05:34:10PM +, Alexander Koskovich wrote:
> Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Which branches are you looking to submit to? There are lots of branches
> > that unfortunately we don't have monitoring of. MPs are great, but I
> > wouldn't want you to
dly also under-managed at this time, so sometimes a ping on IRC
(#ubuntu-devel@libera) or email is productive.
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ith the rest of firefox debs.
* `libsigc++-3.0`: mess of template symbols being listed in symbols file,
causing build failures on various archs (specifically, LTO-enabled archs).
Patched, submitted to Debian.
* `cppad`: binary-indep build fails in Ubuntu and Debian. Removed from
-proposed, let the m
lot more problems for triage.
I think it's reasonable for you to decide not to invest time in testing
against a kernel that is not the final kernel for the release, where you
believe that will result in wasted time due to false-positives.
But 6.1 is also not the final kernel for the releas
able
release.
Flavors are required to hit a beta milestone and a release milestone. How
they conduct their activities to ensure that these milestones are releasable
is for them to decide.
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python3.11
> $ python3-dbg-config --cflags --libs
> /usr/bin/python3-dbg-config: 117: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
> I filed https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python3.11/+bug/2009967
> with a patch. I would prefer if foundations uploaded this, as the
> package is curre
ask for Internet access, or if we
instead manually mark as bad tests those that have requirements our testbeds
don't meet. We can have the discussion with Debian about whether to have a
more nuanced distinction between a 'needs-internet' restriction and a
'fails-to-
erface for doing signature verification of the payload. It does not
disable the use of kexec as a feature.
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installer and so any divergences in the installed system would simply be a
bug.
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and that made me
> think the issues were unrelated to this package. Due to the size of the
> queues, I didn't ask for re-triggers.
This package has since migrated. I guess someone did retrigger and it
passed.
Please don't be shy about retriggering because of the queues; the tests
ted the packages from the NEW queue and synced the package from
> > jammy with the following commands:
> >
> > $ copy-package --auto-approve -y -b -s jammy --to-suite lunar-proposed \
> > -e 0.17.0+ds-2 nim-regex
> > $ copy-package --auto-approve -y -b -s jammy
e and synced the package from
jammy with the following commands:
$ copy-package --auto-approve -y -b -s jammy --to-suite lunar-proposed \
-e 0.17.0+ds-2 nim-regex
$ copy-package --auto-approve -y -b -s jammy --to-suite lunar-proposed \
-e 0.5.1-2 nim-unicodeplus
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, having reviewed it from an SRU
perspective, I can't find fault with the implementation. So we'll move
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is
redundant for newer releases, I don't immediately see anything incorrect
there. If you can point out where it's wrong, I'll happily edit it to
correct it but I don't have time just now to run through the full
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inks in /etc/timezone
or /etc/localtime. Even if the debconf automation never presented these as
options to the user, we shouldn't break the default system timezone on
upgrade.
You may already have this in your plan, so just making sure!
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I've been using find-proposed-cluster in anger for about a month now, and
it's given me quicker insight into what's happening in -proposed that needs
attention.
Please kick the tires. Suggestions for improvement welcome.
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> On Monday, November 21 2022, I wrote:
> > On Monday, November 21 2022, Steve Langasek wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 06:32:39PM -0500, Sergio Durigan Junior wrote:
> >>> Hello,
&g
s
> > questions. We will start the election on 6 December. All five seats
> > (besides Mark) will be filled.
> >
> > Here is the list of candidates (by alphabetical order of surname):
> >
> > - Sebastien Bacher
> > - Robie Basak
> > - Ben Collins
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