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We're up to 290.20 in Precise, which should resolve this bug.
For oneiric you should be able to get the updated driver via Jockey.
For other older releases you can get it via PPAs or download from the
NVIDIA site, but we can't do SRUs of proprietary drivers to those
releases.
** Changed in: nvidi
** Changed in: nvidia-graphics-drivers (Ubuntu)
Status: Incomplete => Confirmed
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Go to Launchpad and add the ppa for ubuntu-x-swat/x-updates. You will need to
completely remove nvidia current with synaptic or via a terminal before you
will be able to install the new version, if your system is as crabby as mine
was about installing the 290.10 version.
It certainly seems to w
yeah I hope it will hit the repos soon!
I saw in the releasenotes of 290.10 this and I was happy reading it:
- Fixed a regression that caused blank/white windows when exhausting
video memory on GeForce 6 and 7 series GPUs while using composited
desktops.
I should try it out soon!
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I just tried the 290.10 package but it doesn't solve the other issue I'm seeing
(when the compiz desktop cube finishes a rotation,
the windows of the previous face re-appear for a split second).
Sam Spilsbury in comment #157 said he has a fix, Sam, what's the status
on that one? Is there a more r
I should also mention that whatever Nvidia did seems to have fixed the
other problems I was having too. Audio no longer skips when something
using blur is active (such as the alt+tab switcher), the desktop grid
isn't all jumpy anymore, moving windows around is smooth, and it doesn't
seem any effec
It seems this bug has been fixed in the latest nvidia-current.
https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates/+sourcepub/2087988
/+listing-archive-extra
I was using GNOME Shell, but I've switched back to Unity and haven't had
any issues for the passed few hours. It's funny, I just ordere
I can also confirm that it still affects me in 11.10. Reducing window
size makes the content appear in 11.10 and it used to do so in 11.04.
But that is not a lot of consolation, in some cases the window had to be
reduced beyond practicality in order to show content. :-(
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I experienced the same behaviour (reducing window size would eventually
reveal window content) in 11.04. In 11.10 unity hardly works at all...
all windows are white.
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Small addition to the blank window situation... If I reduce the size of
the affected window gradually, the content eventually returns.
Unfortunately to get this to happen the window has to be way-below
optimum size and the problem comes back as soon as the window is
expanded beyond its threshold si
this sounds like great news!
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Sam Spilsbury
wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:38 PM, sordna <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> > For me upgrading to oneiric solved the issue, but please note I am using
> > xubuntu (XFCE). However the upgrade introduced a new c
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 2:38 PM, sordna <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> For me upgrading to oneiric solved the issue, but please note I am using
> xubuntu (XFCE). However the upgrade introduced a new compiz issue,
> whenever I rotate the desktop cube, as soon as the new face settles in
> place
For me upgrading to oneiric solved the issue, but please note I am using
xubuntu (XFCE). However the upgrade introduced a new compiz issue,
whenever I rotate the desktop cube, as soon as the new face settles in
place, the windows of the previous face flash on the new face for a
split second. Has an
I can also report that NVIDIA 285.05.09 Linux Driver did not solve the
problem for me. I reverted back to 280.13.
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I can also confirm this is still a problem with Oneiric. Unity is just
spastic, unstable windows, menus, white windows, all of the problems
outlined in this bug report remain extant, if not were worse for me
after upgrading. It is impossible to use Unity, however fortunately for
me Gnome 3 works w
I can confirm this is still every bit as much a problem with Oneiric as
it was with Natty: no change.
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Hey anthonyjschulte,
You filed this bug report against natty, but I see it's still open and
doesn't appear to have much activity recently. So, now that oneiric
is released and stable, this may be a good point for you to upgrade
and re-test if this issue is still present there.
If it's solved in
NVIDIA 285.05.09 Linux Driver Pre-Release! Has anyone try it out?
Damn, I just buy a new card and will have no troubles at all. nVidia
won. ***!
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I have sent the results from you guys to the nvidia-site. (read: I have told
them several people have tested the latest drivers, but to no avail) Their
reply was as follows:
Thanks for the additional information.
This issue has been reported to Engineering and is being investigated.
P
Hi warjowuch,
Yesterday I had no time but now I could collect a bug report with 280.13
driver.
Bug report:
The black/white windows issue with composite managers is still exist in
the case of 280.13 driver.
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Use Linux with composite manager (Compiz/Mutter) enabled Nvidia 6x
Hi warjowuch,
in my young years I have been using nv drivers from binary file (no
packages), they have one disadvantage - I have to reinstall them as soon
as I have new kernel (very often in ubuntu). So I gave up. But for sake
of testing I am willing to try it. I have different architecture than
I
Hi warjowuch
I'm using the 280.13 driver and the problem is definitely existing (in
addition the latest beta is acting the same but it has a suspend/wake up
freezing issue too) although I got this issue with fedora 15 and gnome 3
but I think on Ubuntu compiz/unity/gnome 3 would do the same. If y
I just got an answer from Nvidia, read below. Only I don't use compiz/unity now
because of the issue. I must send them an answer within 72 hours for the report
not to be closed...
On the 752445-bug (same as this one) it seems someone has allready tried the
280.13 driver Mike (from the mail below
I don't know if this is helpful/relevant/already mentioned, but this
problem exists in KDE too. The only difference is that the windows are
black instead of white. It happens in Kubuntu 11.04 and after a fresh
install of 11.10 it still occurs.
In Kubuntu the fix is easy and immediate. In System
Hello all,
Thanks for reporting this bug. Since it seems to be quite active on
launchpad and users are writing in to linux-bugs about it, I just wanted
to mention that NVIDIA is aware of the issue. We've been tracking it for
a while under NVIDIA internal bug number 822418. It does appear to be
spe
Just not to be out of my "English writing skill" I wrote them too -
sending them link to this site. But I would be not surprised if they did
not write back. I bet they receive stuff like this in thousands every
day. Not to mention, ignoring this bug will force users to buy new
graphic cards - more
I don't know if their "bug-base" works as cool as launchpad's with an
url one can follow.
But... We might need more submitters.
I have had NO feedback on my last submission, and it's gotten the status
"Closed No submissions"...
This incident cannot be reopened or updated. If you need further
as
warjowuch pls, can you paste here link to the nvidia bug site? I am not
able to find it and this bug is still present. this is driving me crazy
seeing I can not use my ubuntu. metacity just not the way. thanks
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I have filed a bug report at the nvidia-site, giving them a link to both this
thread and this one:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/752445
I hope they will sort things out...
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Have just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 with Ubuntu Classic, Compiz and
Nautilus Elementary and I have the same problem.
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I tried the same, but it did not work for me:(
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After downgrading my nvidia driver the issue seems to be disappeared. (I don't
really understand the interdependencies of the packages but I removed the
nvidia-current package and installed nvidia-glx-173; I guess my driver will not
be automatically updated.)
I've been working with it for 3 hour
I use ubuntu classic, and I start compiz manually and the issue appears for me
too.
I have the nVidia driver too (270.41.06-0ubuntu1) with a GeForce 7150M built on
my laptop's motherboard.
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I see now, I do own older 8x nVidia card.
I have read about BIOS configuration, but I do not have any of googled options
in BIOS, unfortunately. You do not wanna know how much money I spent for that
motherboard (I should rather have gone for holiday)!
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No... it affects only older, integrated nvidia cards. My new nvidia card
is unaffected, same with my friend's. If it were all nvidia products,
people would be knocking down doors at canonical and nvidia, flooding
them with complaints. It affects a good number of people, but most fix
the problem wit
Hmm I really do not know anything about celestia, but I do not agree
with you that this bug affects a small percentage of users. I think it
affect all nVidia users using compiz. I would guess vast majority uses
compiz and vast majority has nVidia graphic card (my opinion)
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In time, I've learned that the ubuntu devs don't care very much about
certain bugs. Take celestia for example: it needs to depend on the
textures pack so that the planets other than earth have textures, but in
a year and a half or more, nothing has been done. This nvidia bug
affects a small percent
Come on, guys! The problem is still here. I do not want to blame Ubuntu
devels, but nVidia seems to be far more superior to cause this problem
(no offence). Isn't there any kind of way, where some Head coach from
Ubuntu call Head coach from nVidia and say: Hey, you sux, this is not
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On 14 Apr 2011, at 08:07, Vish <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> Thank you for bringing this bug to our attention. However, a paper
> cut should be a small usability issue, in the default Ubuntu
> install, that affects many people and is quick and ea
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> ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
> Status: New => Confirmed
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On 14 Apr 2011, at 01:55, Josh Leverette <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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> blah. Nobody's even given this an importance level of Wishlist.. let
> alone the very high importance this should be getting. I really hope
> someone fixes it in the next two we
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On 19 Apr 2011, at 03:04, RarSa <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> Same problem here.
> 11.04 Beta 2 , Unity, 3D enabled, Nvidia from Additional drivers
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On 3 May 2011, at 06:04, Peter Laird <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> I give up on Unity, but not because of this bug. This morning I
> needed a phone number I had left on a sticky note on the desktop
> (using
> the Gnome Stickynote applet), so I had
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On 2 May 2011, at 15:30, Josh Leverette <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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> You could uninstall all proprietary nVidia drivers and then install
> unity 2D
>
> Sincerely,
> Josh
>
> On May 2, 2011, at 10:18 AM, sylvain972 <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
> wro
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On 2 May 2011, at 18:29, Josh Leverette <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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> Thats a lame reason. This is the first generation of unity for
> desktop.
> Of course it will have limitations, but it is still a huge improvement
> on the old gnome desktop. U
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On 2 May 2011, at 17:55, Bruce Crowther <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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> I give up on Unity, but not because of this bug. This morning I
> needed
> a phone number I had left on a sticky note on the desktop (using the
> Gnome Stickynote applet), so
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On 17 Apr 2011, at 10:35, Christophe C <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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> I've got the same problem. nvidia card + compiz + nvidia official
> driver
> + Unity beta2 (fresh installation - yesterday).
>
> The white blank window (with only the title bar
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On 28 Apr 2011, at 15:38, Josh Leverette <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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> ** Changed in: nvidia-drivers-ubuntu
> Status: New => Confirmed
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On 28 Apr 2011, at 14:27, Christophe C <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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> nvidia card + compiz + nvidia official driver + Unity beta2 + AMD
> processor + 2Go memory + fresh install + 32 bits : the bug occurs.
>
> Same installation BUT with nvidia driver
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On 28 Apr 2011, at 14:11, Baturay Palas <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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> Unfortunately same here :(
>
> Natty final + nvidia card + nvidia restricted driver + 64 bit system +
> fresh installation
>
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On 2 May 2011, at 15:18, sylvain972 <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> Since the problem seems to come from Nvidia, how to prevent Nvidia
> dysfunction, and how
> time to solve it?
>
> For me, pass the driver 173 does not help, I have a black screen on
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On 6 May 2011, at 04:15, Tenoch <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> Sorry i forgot, I have Nvidia graphics card too.
>
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On 6 May 2011, at 07:16, izar <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> has anyone tried any other nvidia drivers? (such as the 185 version
> maybe)
>
> i tried installing the 173 but then the system coudn't start the x
> for some reason.
> p.s. i also cant us
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On 6 May 2011, at 04:10, Tenoch <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> I have the same problem, It does not happen all the time on my case.
> So
> when i maximize i see a blank page only with the title bar of the
> application having the issue. If i unmaxim
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On 6 May 2011, at 11:37, Josh Leverette <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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> No driver + unity 2D
>
> Sincerely,
> Josh
>
> On May 6, 2011, at 2:16 AM, izar <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
>
> has anyone tried any other nvidia drivers? (such as the 185
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On 8 May 2011, at 12:23, Patrick Dawkins <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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> I've got the same, in Ubuntu 11.04 with nvidia-current, particularly
> while running VirtualBox so when there's little video memory left,
> maybe
> that's relevant?
>
> nvidia
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On 18 May 2011, at 16:37, Rodrigo-canalli <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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> I'm having this "white window" bug on a Nvidia GeForce 7000 Acer
> notebook, since I upgraded from Ubuntu 10.10 (in which this never
> happened) to Ubuntu 11.04, in which t
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On 8 May 2011, at 19:57, dreamfire <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> Yes it seems to have something to do with memory. (173 haven't worked
> here, got a black login screen) I have a GForce 6100. The white
> windows
> only occur when many programs are o
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On 8 May 2011, at 20:30, Josh Leverette <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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> How do you increase that?
>
> On May 8, 2011, at 2:57 PM, dreamfire <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
> wrote:
>
> Yes it seems to have something to do with memory. (173 haven't work
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On 8 May 2011, at 21:20, dreamfire <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> I have a BIOS Option for that. It is found under "Advanced Chipset
> Features" and is called "Frame Buffer Size"
> btw. The GForce 6100 is an integrated Graphics Chip.
>
> On Sun, 08 Ma
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On 8 May 2011, at 23:00, harvey <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> Dream, excuse my ignorance, but could you help me more with this? BIOS
> settings are accessed before the computer boots? ty
>
> I have a BIOS Option for that. It is found under "Advanced
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On 9 May 2011, at 02:22, Ben Shaw <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestion dreamfire. Increasing the Frame Buffer
> Size in
> bios to 256MB increased the reported memory on my card to 512MB also.
>
> The result is I can now work in u
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On 9 May 2011, at 10:10, Bruno <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> My laptop is a Sony Vaio VGN-S5HP, with a GeForce Go 6400, and I
> have no
> BIOS options to manage the graphics card... Anyone has a suggestion on
> how I might be able to do that?
>
> -
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On 10 May 2011, at 20:54, izar <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> hp with geforce 6150 go, incresing memory in bios helps me too.
>
> bruno- if you dont have this option in bios, you should try other
> workarounds such as using a different driver (eg. 173
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On 12 May 2011, at 22:48, WarriorIng64 <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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> I have this issue on a desktop using an integrated GeForce 6150SE
> nForce
> 430, using the current NVidia proprietary driver. I tried the
> workaround
> discussed above for i
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On 22 Apr 2011, at 10:39, jack <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> Same problem here:
> nvidia card (Geforce 6200) with nvidia official driver (270.41.06) +
> compiz
> i can use the dock and unity but every window is blank white until i
> resize it to
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On 4 May 2011, at 08:58, Bruce Crowther <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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> Quote from Peter Laird, "This is a tangent, but you can extract the
> content of your old notes via:
>
> cat ~/.gnome2/stickynotes_applet"
>
> Or just browse via Nautilus and ope
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On 3 May 2011, at 19:10, harvey <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> I only just switched to Ubuntu for the first time a few days ago.
> Maximized windows go blank on my old desktop (has nvidia), but natty
> is
> running perfectly on my netbook (no nvidia
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On 30 Apr 2011, at 17:53, Hubert FONGARNAND
<753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> Same problem for me:
>
> My computer : Nvidia Integrated 6100, Processor AMD64, Ubuntu 11.04
> 32,
> Unity, 1 go RAM.
>
> 00:05.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporat
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On 25 Apr 2011, at 02:56, Josh Leverette <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
wrote:
> Duly note.. my nvidia driver marks as activated but not in use even
> after completely reinstalling and multiple reboots. This could factor
> in?
>
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On 28 Apr 2011, at 06:56, Christophe C <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
wrote:
> nvidia card + compiz + nvidia official driver + Unity beta2 + AMD
> processor + 2Go memory.
>
> Precision : the problem occurs in natty / unity AND in natty / Unbuntu
> classic.
>
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On 1 May 2011, at 23:09, Bruno <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> Problem solved with the 173 driver too :-)
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On 2 May 2011, at 10:15, Bruno <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> I have to agree with Josh.
>
> I did install 173, and Unity was working fine, so I decided to try out
> Gnome 3, and it was a total catastrophe, under 173. The content of the
> windows was
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On 1 May 2011, at 14:42, Hubert FONGARNAND <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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> Problem solved by using the 173 driver version...
>
> I've just select this driver using the "proprietary" driver ubuntu
> tool!
>
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On 2 May 2011, at 05:43, Bruce Crowther <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
wrote:
> I take your point, Josh, but it is easier for me to leave 11.04 on my
> machine and use the 173 driver than it is to reinstall a previous
> version of the OS.
>
> If I was to do
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On 1 May 2011, at 23:26, Josh Leverette <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
wrote:
> driver 173 is NOT a solution people! it is a workaround. It gives
> reduced
> performance, etc, etc, etc. nVidia needs to get into action and fix
> this.
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2
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On 30 Apr 2011, at 13:35, Bruce Crowther <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
wrote:
> Must be old age or tiredness: re-read the posts above, changed to
> nvidia
> driver 173, no more problems. I could rapidly start to enjoy Unity
> now.
>
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On 30 Apr 2011, at 14:19, sylvain972 <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> For me, with driver 173, new bugs appear, as a nearly completely black
> screen (with a little normal zone at the top of the screen).
>
> My computer : Nvidia Integrated 6100, Process
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On 29 Apr 2011, at 16:34, sylvain972 <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> Attached: nvidia-bug-report.log.
>
> ** Attachment added: "Attached: nvidia-bug-report.log."
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/753144/+attachment/2096196/+files/nvidia-bug-rep
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On 30 Apr 2011, at 08:19, Christophe C <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
wrote:
> On the ubuntu french forum, the nvidia driver 173 solve the problem of
> some personnes, but not all of them.
>
> The white blank windows desepear for all of them, but new bugs ap
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On 30 Apr 2011, at 09:35, Bruce Crowther <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
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> Only had the OS installed for 24 hours and this issue is driving me
> bats! Message #29 suggests I won't get ahead any better by changing
> drivers, so I'll just hang fire and
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On 9 May 2011, at 04:10, Bruce Crowther <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
wrote:
> That's a pretty impressive workaround. I also increased from 64 to
> 128Mb, and that allows me to run 7 maximised windows before I strike
> the
> problem, using the "current"
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On 4 May 2011, at 20:09, izar <753...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> same problem here.
> why does everyone blame unity when problem exists also in gnome?
>
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currently using 275.19 driver. no cure. problem still exists.
2011/7/16 <753...@bugs.launchpad.net>
> True, my friend...
>
> I dare to say, that nvidia has release No. 275.19 which is newer and
> they claim they fixed some bugs which sounds to be "our" issue.
>
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True, my friend...
I dare to say, that nvidia has release No. 275.19 which is newer and
they claim they fixed some bugs which sounds to be "our" issue.
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I have 275.09.07 nvidia driver installed - still get blank windows if
they get too big.
IIUC, Ubuntu developers seem to blame Nvidia for the problem - has
Nvidia actually _acknowledged_ it? They released their new driver quite
a long time after this bug here was discussed so it'd be good to know i
I just mentioned, because some people here wrote about Unity, I want
developer to know, that I do not use Unity at all and have this problem.
But guys, check this
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=OTY3Ng - coult this
be the fix? New nVidia driver available. Please, someone try it
In every case thus far, the old drivers did fix the problem. This problem
only applies to certain models of older integrated nVidia cards from what we
can tell. Unity is not the problem, I don't know why you think disabling
that will help. Unity just manages the windows, it doesn't draw them.
Howev
I have disabled unity ASAP. But I have this white/transparent window
problem - first time in my life using the lastest Ubuntu. It is really
annoying. Of course, I have Nvidia. But if it is their fault, then using
old drivers should fix the problem (which did not - according to some
subscribers)...
Same problem here since weeks on my (rather old) Vaio with 1GB RAM and a
Nvidia GeForce 6200 with 128 MB RAM. But white windows only appear, when
logging into the unity session; the unity-2D session works flawalessly.
This happened with the old Nvidia drivers and happens with the new
Nvidia driver
The same white screen with latest nvidia drivers (275.09.07).
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Have anyone tried the latest (275.33) nvidia drivers?
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Happened always when maximize windows with option "Keep previews of
minimized windows" turned ON in Workaround plugin in compiz. Also I
didn't see that previewing minimized windows works (Ubuntu 11.04 and
Mint 11), so I turned this off and for now I didn't see white window.
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The workarounds are also listed above. Please read them. Then you will
understand why they couldn't be included in natty-final. We can't mod
users' BIOSes. It's not a good idea.
On Jun 7, 2011, at 10:23 AM, Geoffrey Pursell wrote:
> Really? I can't fix bugs in Internet Explorer, but it's still
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