You both make perfectly valid points, but I think you don't put the
stress exactly where you should, so... sorry for the spam:
1) The ideal situation would be that all applications have native PulseaAudio
output, to take advantage of it's great features.
Corollary 1a. Bugs in any application's
Roberto, you make a perfect point and anybody having any common sense is
bound to agree with you. Answering your question, on my machine it's
flashplugin-nonfree that causes troubles, not freeing up sound until I
close the browser alltogether.
And I think ALSA emulation would better be more comple
I believe that applications should be fixed, as Josh pointed,
considering that the goal is to have PulseAudio really as the "standard"
way to go. If PulseAudio is being consolidated, soon or later, they'll
have to be changed. So those fixes would be for accomplishing the goal,
and not because "the
Josh, thank you for the perfect illustration of the upstream PulseAudio
team position.
I repeat: there's NOTHING WRONG with Skype, aplay, oolite and any other
application that relies on ALSA. They work with ALSA, they work in any
other distribution, they worked well in Gutsy, so having to "fix" th
install and run pavucontrol.
apps that use pulseaudio will appear in pavucontrol when making sound, and
those that do should all work together.
any apps that dont appear in pavucontrol will not work with any apps that do.
i think the best idea is to look for and report individual applications th
Daniel Chen made an interesting comment on HAL here:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/109439/comments/4
. I agree with him but this bug remember us all that ALSA EXISTS, along
with dmix... To get rid on "dancing indexes" one could base settings on
symbolic card names... As
Maybe a "tracker" bug should be opened for collect all issues related
with pulseaudio. Most of them can be fixed or workarounded, but a
tracker bug is really useful for checking opened bugs easily. At least
with bugzilla (I don't know how launchpad manages this) the tracker bugs
has all related mar
If you don't enable alsa redirection for pulseaudio (the .asoundrc thing
or asoundconf set-pulseaudio), you can try this:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/pulseaudio/+bug/109439
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I tried the .asoundrc thing, but neither with pulse running, nor with
'killall pulseaudio' will Skype work, neither with 'pulse' nor the
default device. It's always 'problems with audio playback'.
Anyway, Ubuntu isn't the only distro to switch to default-PA, so here's
hoping Skype will do the onl
I think putting the command:
$ asoundconf set-pulseaudio
Will also enable alsa redirection for pulse audio, at least per user,
and may be a solution for the problem.
I'm using Hardy x86_64, and, sadly, libasound2-plugins is not avaliable
for 32 bits apps like Skype ( https://bugs.launchpad.net/b
Ulrich, Skype is not the only issue with PulseAudio (though one of the
most annoying ones). Including PulseAudio in the coming LTS release
doesn't look too wise to me either, but it's included and we'll have to
live with it anyway.
A temporarily workaround was proposed earlier in this bugreport: i
Have you tried this:
http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Releases/Mandriva/2008.0/Errata#Skype_with_PulseAudio
?
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Confirmed. Skype does not work at all on Ubuntu 8.04, and no matter how
i configure its sound device, it doesn't work. 'padsp' doesn't change
anything, either.
While this might be Skype's fault, it seems that Pulseaudio has existed
for at least a year now, and at least for a year there have been
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Hello,
I can also semi confirm this bug. Heres what happens with me (As of
March 30th):
1) Start up skype (skype in terminal)
2) No login sound
3) Try calling someone, skype freezes and either requires killing the process
But I can confirm that for me the pasuspender skype workaround does
work.
I am also getting very weak incoming sound with my non-gnome recording
devices. I assume incoming (recorded) sound is part of the bug?
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Thanks for pointing this simple test out, Roberto — they don't sound
simultaneously. Skype (and aplay, vlc, all stuff like that) are useless
unless I close the page with a YouTube video in Firefox (simply pausing
or stopping the video doesn't make no good). But anyway, after closing
that page ALSA
Still a problem in my system too. Evgeny, did you try to test playing a
video on youtube and using skype (or another alsa-only program) at the
same time? Does both output sounds work?
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Still a problem on my system. I re-install the whole system 3 days ago
and have performed all available updates. I have not tried any
workarounds, so my system is "as-installed."
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On my system, the problem seems to have vanished. I have occasionally
rebooted the system, and decided not to kill pulseaudio after boot to
test things a bit. To my astonishment, sound works flawlessly, even in
skype, games, etc.
Flashplugin in Firefox sometimes locks sound to itself (producing th
Just for my curiosity, any hopes to have this fixed for Hardy final?
Maybe I'm wrong, but PulseAudio as the default sound server doesn't look
like a big improvement, with this bug (and similar others)...
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Me too.
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Sorry. In the comment above I put the ekiga bug report twice and missed the
gnome.
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=413552
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More relevant alsa bug reports: for ekiga and gnome:
https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=3825
https://bugtrack.alsa-project.org/alsa-bug/view.php?id=3825
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The new default pulseaudio in Hardy does not work with many non-Gnome programs,
not just Skype. I am worried that everyone (Ubuntu, Alsa, Pulse, Wine) is not
on the same page. Will try cross-posting bug information.
I am concerned for myself because I use Dragon NaturallySpeaking in Wine as an
Have tested workaround UNsuccessfully:
pasuspender skype
Machine hangs completely, have to do hard reboot (never good news!)
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Could someone with triage-rights please set this to medium or high?
The current system behaviour could be a bit of a showstopper for new and
experienced users alike and should be adressed for a LTS release!
Cheers
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This is a working workaround for me until the bug is fixed:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=4526841#post4526841
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Please look at Bug 109439. Seems like the same bug to me.
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Thanks for the useful link, Anders. To my mind, we're not only facing a
bug — it's a regression actually, and as such should be treated as very
important. It's nice to be on the cutting edge of progress and use
latest inventions like PulseAudio in our favoured distro (though my
experience of PulseA
This is definitely a bug. Skype completely crashes, a good source of info here:
http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=112021
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Updated status to "Confirmed"
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Another workaround is to simply killall pulseaudio.
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Partially confirmed: I have had the same problem with Skype and aplay, I
have not yet tried the /etc/asound.conf workaround.
A workaround (NOT a fix) is apparently to run applications like this:
pasuspender skype
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