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Um, Lets talk about inclusion than shall we. I have taken part in very few conversations with Melissa. Why? you may ask. Well because in 2 now I have been directly drowned out because 1. I either asked a simple question or 2. I stated my opinion. I have never, ever, said my opinion is the be all a

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+1 from me. Get over it 'PEOPLE'. This argument could go on for days & Months. In the future we may address each other as 'Ubuntu-ites', will that offend anybody ?? (probably yes) You can't please everybody all of the time. What was that task that we were discussing ?? On Sun, Mar 21,

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This is getting tiresome and filling my trash can. Can we just focus on the task in hand... whatever that was??? 73 de Norm, VK3XCI Mildura, Australia The Wintersun City QF15bt. David Fawcett wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Rand Al Thor >

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On Sun, 2010-03-21 at 16:18 +0800, Rand Al Thor wrote: > IMO google "guys", informal way of referring to either sex. > No offence was intended. If you chose to take offence then that's > your prerogative. > I don't think things need to be changed because of one persons dislike > for a particular t

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On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Rand Al Thor < randalthor_thedragonreb...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > *IMO google "guys", informal way of referring to either sex. > No offence was intended. If you chose to take offence then that's > your prerogative.* > *I don't think things need to be changed becaus

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On Sun, 2010-03-21 at 01:23 -0700, Michael wrote: > Melissa. > > Are we or are we not supposed to be adults. You feel forced, well > guess what so do a few of us. Why should I and others change our > language that in every other circumstance is acceptable? You are > trying to force us to change, t

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Melissa. Are we or are we not supposed to be adults. You feel forced, well guess what so do a few of us. Why should I and others change our language that in every other circumstance is acceptable? You are trying to force us to change, this is not acceptable. You talk of correctness, well I blew th

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> Subject: Re: elections > From: meli...@meldraweb.com > To: c...@bielenberg.id.au > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:02:36 +1100 > CC: keltoi...@gmail.com; ubuntu-au@lists.ubuntu.com > > Cary, > > Correctness isn't politics. > > I detest being called a guy, man

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Cary, Correctness isn't politics. I detest being called a guy, man, dude or anything that discredits the gender part of my identity. I don't work for you, so I don't fear telling you this. You're a guy. You get to relate to "hey guys". I'm not a guy, I don't get to -- I'm /forced/ to. This cry o

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For my 2c I think it's a total crock! I manage a medium IT team from both genders, they get called guys & to date no-one has complained. I too believe that this is PC gone all wrong. Cary Michael wrote .. > On Mar 21, 12:52 pm, Melissa Draper wrote: > > > I find "Folks" to be a much more inc

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On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > On 7 March 2010 15:53, Melissa Draper wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 12:36 +1100, Scott Evans wrote: > >> On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 09:37 +1100, peter baker wrote: > >> > hey guys > > > > And gals, please :P > > I think he meant it in t

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On Mar 21, 12:52 pm, Melissa Draper wrote: > I find "Folks" to be a much more inclusive replacement. > > I'd also appreciate not have to defend my preference for women being > visible/women as opposed to invisible/"honorary guys" on this list. > > -- > Melissa Draper Folks is inclusive if your wi

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It kind of reminds me of Italian grammar. Regardless of whether there are 99 women and only one man in a room, the masculine plural is used... Nonetheless, folks is a good word to use Regards, Matthew Rossi m...@pcpodcast.org +12539876413 +61488122990 Sent from my iPhone On 21/03/2010, at 12:

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On Sat, 2010-03-20 at 23:36 +1100, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote: > On 7 March 2010 15:53, Melissa Draper wrote: > > On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 12:36 +1100, Scott Evans wrote: > >> On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 09:37 +1100, peter baker wrote: > >> > hey guys > > > > And gals, please :P > > I think he meant it in t

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On 7 March 2010 15:53, Melissa Draper wrote: > On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 12:36 +1100, Scott Evans wrote: >> On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 09:37 +1100, peter baker wrote: >> > hey guys > > And gals, please :P I think he meant it in the unisex sense, which when used as a collective noun is quite socially accep

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On Mon, 2010-03-08 at 09:27 +1100, peter baker wrote: > melissa said > > While elections are typically how we used to do this back in > 2006 when > we (both the team and ubuntu in general) were much smaller, > it's > generally now expected that a meritocrati

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Yes there needs to be a transparent process / structure involved. Currently there is none of this. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/WhiteBoard/BrainStorm https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Roadmaps/Lucid/AustralianTeam Andrew G. On Mar 8, 8:27 am, peter baker wrote: > melissa said > > While electio

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On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 12:36 +1100, Scott Evans wrote: > On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 09:37 +1100, peter baker wrote: > > hey guys And gals, please :P > > > > maybe with the pending approval process with the loco council it may > > be a good time to talk about holding an election for positions > > withi

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On Sun, 2010-03-07 at 09:37 +1100, peter baker wrote: > hey guys > > maybe with the pending approval process with the loco council it may > be a good time to talk about holding an election for positions within > the australian loco team. we have not had elections for a while > > how do people f

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Hi, Can I ask a daft question, what positions are there? or is this a singular job. Cary peter baker wrote .. hey guysmaybe with the pending approval process with the loco council it may be a good time to talk about holding an election for positions within the australian loco te