Re: [toaster] Headers

2007-03-22 Thread Tom Collins
On Mar 22, 2007, at 5:55 AM, Gary Bowling wrote: When I send a message to someone else, in the headers for the received message, you get the following: Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.11.10?) ([EMAIL PROTECTED]@70.240.235.119) by 0 with ESMTPA; 22 Mar 2007 11:50:48 - This heade

Re: [toaster] Headers

2007-03-22 Thread Gary Bowling
ueli heuer wrote: On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:14:50 -0500 Gary Bowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not that MS is very good at following the RFC's, but interesting. The MS-Server is behind the Firewall, isn't? do the ms-client use SMTP-AUTH to send emails? Don't know about the MS co

Re: [toaster] Headers

2007-03-22 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
On March 22 2007, 3:59 pm, ueli heuer wrote: > On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:14:50 -0500 > Gary Bowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I can understand that the server header is of importance as well as the >> email address of the client. But the internal/external address of the >> client machine seems p

Re: [toaster] Headers

2007-03-22 Thread ueli heuer
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:14:50 -0500 Gary Bowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Not that MS is very good at following the RFC's, but interesting. The MS-Server is behind the Firewall, isn't? do the ms-client use SMTP-AUTH to send emails? > I can understand that the server header is of importance

Re: [toaster] Headers

2007-03-22 Thread Gary Bowling
Thanks Maciej, Interesting, didn't realize this was a big topic in the email community. It's also interesting that email from a friend who's company uses MS Exchange doesn't have the info in the header. Not that MS is very good at following the RFC's, but interesting. I can understand that t

Re: [toaster] Headers

2007-03-22 Thread Maciej Sołtysiak
> Thanks for the attitude!, I didn't really need a lesson in NAT or > security. What I know about those things or how they are involved is not > of concern here.. No need to get upset because... [read below] > I simply had a question of the possibility of removing those lines from > the header. I

Re: [toaster] Headers

2007-03-22 Thread Gary Bowling
Thanks for the attitude!, I didn't really need a lesson in NAT or security. What I know about those things or how they are involved is not of concern here.. I simply had a question of the possibility of removing those lines from the header. I get email from other people using other MTA's tha

Re: [toaster] Headers

2007-03-22 Thread Shane Chrisp
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 08:19 -0500, Gary Bowling wrote: > > Seems a security risk because it shows both the internal address and > the external address of the client, not the server. Which gives a > hacker an easy way to start discovering outside/inside address pairs. > > Finding who the user that

Re: [toaster] Headers

2007-03-22 Thread Gary Bowling
Seems a security risk because it shows both the internal address and the external address of the client, not the server. Which gives a hacker an easy way to start discovering outside/inside address pairs. Finding who the user that sent the message is, is identified by the sending email addre

Re: [toaster] Headers

2007-03-22 Thread Shane Chrisp
On Thu, 2007-03-22 at 07:55 -0500, Gary Bowling wrote: > When I send a message to someone else, in the headers for the received > message, you get the following: > > Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.11.10?) ([EMAIL > PROTECTED]@70.240.235.119) > by 0 with ESMTPA; 22 Mar 2007 11:50:48 -000