ueli heuer wrote:
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 09:14:50 -0500
Gary Bowling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Not that MS is very good at following the RFC's, but interesting.

The MS-Server is behind the Firewall, isn't? do the ms-client
use SMTP-AUTH to send emails?

Don't know about the MS config, just what I receive in email.

I can understand that the server header is of importance as well as the email address of the client. But the internal/external address of the client machine seems pretty useless for the email piece. The actual server is going to log all that info, so it could be had easily enough for an admin who might be troubleshooting things.

With that header in the mail, it would be a task of seconds ...
OK
But it doesn't seem like the recipient needs to know that info. It actually seems as though the recipient could only use it for malicious activity and would have no legitimate use for it.

Security by obscurity won't work
This header can be used to trust the sender as he/she used some
authentication before he/she could send the mail.

Just my opinion


Ok, it's not security by obscurity. Since everyone is hung up on how the machine security is done outside of email.. The client machine is across the internet at another location. The client has a firewall that blocks all this info. The server also has a firewall that blocks this info, except for the published info about the server along with all the ports necessary to do mail.

The client actually uses a VPN to connect to the server, the VPN uses IPSEC to secure it's connection. The ONLY way a remote person or user can find this persons internal/external IP address pair is by it being put in the email header.

I'm not all that concerned about this particular client as their machine is pretty well protected against most things. Obviously anything can be broken given enough time and desire. However, the first step in hacking into someone's computer is to learn all the information you can about the machine you're hacking. Knowing the internal address and the external address, even if the external address is still an internal address that is of the VPN connection is giving a potential hacker a head start on figuring out how this client machine is set up and therefore what vulnerabilities the client might be subject to.

It just seems like openly advertising it in the email header is more info than you might want to give out.

But I guess that's just me, thanks for answering all my questions..

Gary


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