Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-04-10 Thread Ashwin G
I personally use mode-mouse only for scrolling text. I do not use it for select-pane. For copy-mode I prefer to use keyboard keys, since it is much efficient. If I want to select just a word, I use shift + mouse click (or double click) and copy it into the X11 default clipboard. On Wed, Apr 10,

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-04-10 Thread Nicholas Marriott
Yes we could do but TBH I'm not sure it's worth the extra code. I'd really like to hear from people who do use the mouse - what options do they turn on? If they don't turn on mode-mouse, why not? I only use mouse-select-pane myself On Sat, Apr 06, 2013 at 04:12:50AM +, Ben Boeckel wrote: > O

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-04-06 Thread Ben Boeckel
On Tue, 26 Mar, 2013 at 16:08:43 GMT, Nicholas Marriott wrote: > Not enough. Just renaming it is not ok. mode-mouse does this: > > - Click to paste outside copy mode. > - Copy text on drag outside copy mode. > - Copy text on drag inside copy mode. > - Scroll up and down in copy mode. > - Select ite

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Nicholas Marriott
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 07:36:53PM +0100, Marcel Partap wrote: > >You might want to disable ALL mouse support and that has to be > >possible. In fact, it has to be the default. > Ok if so, then it needs at least one more option in addition to > "mouse-copy-mode".. "mouse-choose" or something. Well

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Marcel Partap
> You might want to disable ALL mouse support and that has to be > possible. In fact, it has to be the default. Ok if so, then it needs at least one more option in addition to "mouse-copy-mode".. "mouse-choose" or something. >>> We could split it up into a few options but what? What? Clarity and

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Nicholas Marriott
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 05:35:09PM +0100, Romain Francoise wrote: > Nicholas Marriott writes: > > > I don't understand what master has to do with it, are you building > > packages from master rather than from a tag? > > Yes, I build packages for Debian's experimental suite from master, usually >

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Nicholas Marriott
We don't do unnecessary renames, and we don't carry about unnecessary compatibility code for them. Seriously, the confusion here is so minor and backed by so little evidence it's not worth the hassle. If you want to help the confused then extend the mode-mouse entry in the man page, or add a new

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Nicholas Marriott
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 05:41:24PM +0100, Marcel Partap wrote: > >>- renaming mode-mouse to mouse-copy-mode (multiple incidents of > >>confusion because of the too-general name) > > > >Not enough. Just renaming it is not ok. mode-mouse does this: > >- Click to paste outside copy mode. > >- Copy tex

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Marcel Partap
... > isn't going to happen now, since I'm about > to cut a release for 1.8. Uhm ok. > But adding in your changes now -- even by delaying 1.8 by a few days -- > simply is not an option. Because? > We would need much more time to ensure new code > isn't going to introduce bugs Much more time? The

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Marcel Partap
..ok that was meant to be a reply to <20130326160843.ga22...@yelena.nicm.ath.cx> sorry^^ -- Own the Future-IntelĀ® Level Up Game Demo Contest 2013 Rise to greatness in Intel's independent game demo contest. Compete for rec

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Marcel Partap
- renaming mode-mouse to mouse-copy-mode (multiple incidents of confusion because of the too-general name) Not enough. Just renaming it is not ok. mode-mouse does this: - Click to paste outside copy mode. - Copy text on drag outside copy mode. - Copy text on drag inside copy mode. - Scroll up an

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Romain Francoise
Nicholas Marriott writes: > I don't understand what master has to do with it, are you building > packages from master rather than from a tag? Yes, I build packages for Debian's experimental suite from master, usually every couple of weeks. For unstable I use the latest official release, of cours

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Nicholas Marriott
There are other naming warts if we want to break everybody's configs good and well: - We have display-time but message-fg/bg/attr. - What IS the difference between 'list' and 'show' anyway? - split-window should be split-pane. - I hate the name 'server-info'. And surely 'info-server' to match t

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Nicholas Marriott
I don't think we need backwards compatibility, it isn't a big ask for people to change their configs - especially now they can use if/run-shell synchronously to do it and ignore the error. But it isn't something we want to ask unnecessarily, just to fix naming nit. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 03:58:

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Nicholas Marriott
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 04:08:12PM +0100, Marcel Partap wrote: > > On Tuesday evening -- I'm planning to release tmux 1.8. > > Any questions, please let me know. > Yes, would you be so kind and delay the release a couple of hours. Only > just took notice of it and imho some of the patches I sent i

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Thomas Adam
Hi, On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 04:08:12PM +0100, Marcel Partap wrote: > > On Tuesday evening -- I'm planning to release tmux 1.8. > > Any questions, please let me know. > Yes, would you be so kind and delay the release a couple of hours. Only > just took notice of it and imho some of the patches I s

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Marcel Partap
> Oh and the recent merge does look ugly indeed - cherry-picking is a much > better way to deal with situations like that ...further diving into the git history, I dismiss my previous statement.. cherry-picking from obsd-master is obviously not a real option.. but is there no way to merge without

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Nicholas Marriott
I'm not comfortable adding more features now, if we want to release this week we have no more time for testing. If you have the osdep changes ready before Thomas does the release I will look at them. The rest will wait for 1.9. On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 04:08:12PM +0100, Marcel Partap wrote: > >

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Marcel Partap
> On Tuesday evening -- I'm planning to release tmux 1.8. > Any questions, please let me know. Yes, would you be so kind and delay the release a couple of hours. Only just took notice of it and imho some of the patches I sent in a year ago and then again couple of months back should really really

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Nicholas Marriott
On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 01:29:53PM +0100, Romain Francoise wrote: > Nicholas Marriott writes: > > > If we have nice history it is a bonus but if it's easier then it'll be > > messed up. Why is this a problem? Every change is there at least once, > > nothing is lost. What can you no longer do here

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Romain Francoise
Nicholas Marriott writes: > If we have nice history it is a bonus but if it's easier then it'll be > messed up. Why is this a problem? Every change is there at least once, > nothing is lost. What can you no longer do here? It's fundamentally broken to have every change in there twice, one of whi

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Nicholas Marriott
If we have nice history it is a bonus but if it's easier then it'll be messed up. Why is this a problem? Every change is there at least once, nothing is lost. What can you no longer do here? I do like to make things easy for packagers but I'd also like to make minimal promises about history or the

Re: Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-26 Thread Romain Francoise
Thomas Adam writes: > On Tuesday evening -- I'm planning to release tmux 1.8. To this end, > I've updated the "master" branch on SF to reflect what will be in it. > To most people this won't be news because it should contain everything > it used to beforehand, but I've had to rewrite the history

Changes to tmux-code.git on SF -- "master" branch rewound.

2013-03-25 Thread Thomas Adam
Hello all, On Tuesday evening -- I'm planning to release tmux 1.8. To this end, I've updated the "master" branch on SF to reflect what will be in it. To most people this won't be news because it should contain everything it used to beforehand, but I've had to rewrite the history to satisfy the sy