There are other naming warts if we want to break everybody's configs
good and well:

- We have display-time but message-fg/bg/attr.

- What IS the difference between 'list' and 'show' anyway?

- split-window should be split-pane.

- I hate the name 'server-info'. And surely 'info-server' to match the
  rest such as 'kill-client'? (If I can think of a way then server-info
  will die eventually.)

And for that matter, what happened to the 'n' in umount(8)? ;-)

Also this should work:

        tmux neww -- ssh myhost

But that needn't actually break anything :-).


On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 04:11:08PM +0000, Nicholas Marriott wrote:
> I don't think we need backwards compatibility, it isn't a big ask for
> people to change their configs - especially now they can use
> if/run-shell synchronously to do it and ignore the error. But it isn't
> something we want to ask unnecessarily, just to fix naming nit.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 03:58:40PM +0000, Thomas Adam wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Tue, Mar 26, 2013 at 04:08:12PM +0100, Marcel Partap wrote:
> > > > On Tuesday evening -- I'm planning to release tmux 1.8.
> > > > Any questions, please let me know.
> > > Yes, would you be so kind and delay the release a couple of hours. Only 
> > > just took notice of it and imho some of the patches I sent in a year ago 
> > 
> > As Nicholas has mentioned, this isn't going to happen now, since I'm about
> > to cut a release for 1.8.  The code that's going out the door with version
> > 1.8 has had a settling-in period of some time now, and there's no perceived
> > breakages which we know about which makes 1.8 unattainable.
> > 
> > But adding in your changes now -- even by delaying 1.8 by a few days --
> > simply is not an option.  We would need much more time to ensure new code
> > isn't going to introduce bugs, and I don't want that.  I don't want to have
> > to release 1.9 because of something which could have waited.
> > 
> > So no.  You're going to have to wait.
> > 
> > As to the subject of your patches though (and thanks for hijacking this
> > thread, BTW):
> > 
> > > and then again couple of months back should really really be in the next 
> > > point release, namely:
> > > - renaming mode-mouse to mouse-copy-mode (multiple incidents of 
> > > confusion because of the too-general name)
> > 
> > Why is the name changing anyway?  Point me at a thread I can go back and
> > read again, by all means.  To do this "properly", we'd have to maintain a
> > separate deprecation table to perform old->new command-name lookups to
> > ensure people's configurations do not break.  This adds code-bloat for no
> > real reason, and whilst I can understand there's a few naming-nits with some
> > commands, we're by-and-large stuck with what we have.  We are making more of
> > an effort with new commands, to either add additional options to existing
> > commands (c.f. "-r" to "move-window"), or not require them at all, and mark
> > the behaviour as default.
> > 
> > > - pane-active-border-mark option to indicate current pane (as an option 
> > > to the horrible half-line indicator that was committed 12 days ago)
> > 
> > Opinions notwithstanding, it seems as though this is just another variant on
> > this half-border solution.  I don't care either way, but the half-border
> > solution has been chosen for now.
> > 
> > > - mouse wheel scrolling emulation (yes, it is ready since long)
> > > - fix of unwanted side effects of new osdep_get_cwd() behaviour
> > 
> > What is this new osdep_get_cwd() change and how has it affectef your
> > scrolling wheel patch?
> > 
> > -- Thomas Adam
> > 
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