Re: Blocker bugs

2021-02-22 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2021-02-22 at 07:51 -0500, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: > On 2/21/21 16:18, Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 6:18 AM pmkel...@frontier.com > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I'm sitting here thinking about F34 Beta being just two days away and > > > what I have observed in my te

Re: Blocker bugs

2021-02-22 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/21/21 16:18, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 6:18 AM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I'm sitting here thinking about F34 Beta being just two days away and what I have observed in my testing. I must admit being more than a little concerned. Beta freeze starts Tue 2021-02-23. B

Re: Blocker bugs

2021-02-21 Thread Chris Murphy
On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 6:18 AM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: > > > I'm sitting here thinking about F34 Beta being just two days away and > what I have observed in my testing. I must admit being more than a > little concerned. Beta freeze starts Tue 2021-02-23. Beta Release (Preferred Target) is T

Blocker bugs

2021-02-21 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I'm sitting here thinking about F34 Beta being just two days away and what I have observed in my testing. I must admit being more than a little concerned. I have watched the blocker bugs and my concern stems from the fact that I don't see some troubling ones listed there. Also the

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-09-17 Thread Kamil Paral
On Mon, Sep 16, 2019 at 5:06 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > I still consider automatic blockers to be about obviousness (not > criticality), but I'm open to different resolutions here anyway, if we > want to come up with something really clear. > For the record, we talked about this yesterday in QA

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-09-16 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2019-09-16 at 16:11 +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 6:44 PM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > > On Fri, 2019-09-13 at 13:53 +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > > > As I feel it (and would like to have it), "automatic blockers" imply they > > > are such core and basic issues that th

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-09-16 Thread Kamil Paral
On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 6:44 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > On Fri, 2019-09-13 at 13:53 +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > > As I feel it (and would like to have it), "automatic blockers" imply they > > are such core and basic issues that they are non-questionable and > > non-waivable (except by FESCo, whi

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-09-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 1:10 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > Let's be clear about what we mean by 'waiving'. Actually I'd like to > avoid using that word at all (yes I know I did it once, I edited my > mail to take them out but missed one). > > We are *not* 'waiving' the criterion. We are *not* deci

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-09-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2019-09-13 at 12:34 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 10:43 AM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > On Fri, 2019-09-13 at 13:53 +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > > > As I feel it (and would like to have it), "automatic blockers" imply they > > > are such core and basic issues that the

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-09-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Sep 13, 2019 at 10:43 AM Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2019-09-13 at 13:53 +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > > As I feel it (and would like to have it), "automatic blockers" imply they > > are such core and basic issues that they are non-questionable and > > non-waivable (except by FESCo, w

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-09-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2019-09-13 at 13:53 +0200, Kamil Paral wrote: > As I feel it (and would like to have it), "automatic blockers" imply they > are such core and basic issues that they are non-questionable and > non-waivable (except by FESCo, which is itself part of the same policy and > marked to have godly p

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-09-13 Thread Chris Murphy
; "Automatic blockers can't un-accepted (waived), with the exception of FESCo." > > An alternative option would be to exclude just "last minute blocker bugs" > exception, but keep "difficult to fix" exception: > "Automatic blockers can't be sub

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-09-13 Thread Kamil Paral
e list of automatic blockers [3], those are broken composes, dead-on-arrival images, incorrect checksums, broken dependencies, and *oversize images*. I don't think anyone but FESCo should be able to say "go" in that case, regardless of when the problem was reported (even minutes before t

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-29 Thread Adam Williamson
lly speaking, any bug that is agreed to be a violation of the > [[Fedora Release Criteria|release criteria]] should be accepted as a > blocker bug for the next relevant milestone release. However, bearing > in mind the [[Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle|Fedora life cycle's]] emphasi

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-14 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 4:48 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > Hmm. Since we've had a proposal for 7 days and a proposal for 3 days, > why not just split the difference and say 5 days? That would be the > Saturday before go/no-go: so anything proposed the week before isn't > covered, but from the week

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2019-08-14 at 14:26 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > Another option here, is applying the last minute blocker to the > Release Target #1 week, and not to the Preferred Target week. Of even, > if it's a 3 day period apply it to the Preferred Target week; and if 7 > days apply to Target #1 week.

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-14 Thread Chris Murphy
n then! > > > Whoops! I was going to say the only bug that's really made me mad in > the year I've been FPgM is the one that got nominated as a blocker > within a few mintues of the Go/No-Go meeting starting (I don't recall > if it was before or after, I just know that i

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 11:26 AM Adam Williamson wrote: > > If we say 3 days, then we're committing to doing all of that for a > blocker that's proposed the Sunday before the go/no-go - one day before > the final blocker review meeting. Which, I mean...yeah, we have time to > do all that. Juuust b

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-14 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 3:57 PM Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 11:14 AM Ben Cotton wrote: > > > > only bug that's really made me mad in the years > > Go on then! > Whoops! I was going to say the only bug that's really made me mad in the year I've been FPgM is the one that got nom

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-14 Thread Chris Murphy
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 11:14 AM Ben Cotton wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 8:46 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > > > > I thought about it and 7 days probably sounds OK, considering it also > > includes the weekend. I think I wouldn't increase it, but consider > > decreasing it if people think it's t

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-14 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
I have the same doubts about the 7. Well, nobody is sure ;) +1 on my side, great work Pat & Adam On August 14, 2019 7:33:03 PM GMT+02:00, Ben Cotton wrote: >On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 1:26 PM Adam Williamson > wrote: >> >> If we say 3 days, then we're committing to doing all of that for a >> blocke

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-14 Thread Ben Cotton
On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 1:26 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > If we say 3 days, then we're committing to doing all of that for a > blocker that's proposed the Sunday before the go/no-go - one day before > the final blocker review meeting. Which, I mean...yeah, we have time to > do all that. Juuust ba

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-14 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2019-08-14 at 13:13 -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: > On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 8:46 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > > I thought about it and 7 days probably sounds OK, considering it also > > includes the weekend. I think I wouldn't increase it, but consider > > decreasing it if people think it's the ri

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-14 Thread Ben Cotton
On Tue, Aug 13, 2019 at 8:46 AM Kamil Paral wrote: > > I thought about it and 7 days probably sounds OK, considering it also > includes the weekend. I think I wouldn't increase it, but consider decreasing > it if people think it's the right way to go. > 7 is definitely higher than I would have

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-13 Thread Kamil Paral
milestone release. However, bearing > > > in mind the [[Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle|Fedora life cycle's]] emphasis > > > on '''both''' time '''and''' quality, in some cases we may make an > > > ex

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2019-08-12 at 16:11 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 8:04 PM Adam Williamson > wrote: > > # '''Last minute blocker bugs''' - bugs proposed as blockers 7 days or > > fewer before the scheduled [[Go_No_Go_Meeting]] fo

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-12 Thread Chris Murphy
On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 8:04 PM Adam Williamson wrote: > > # '''Last minute blocker bugs''' - bugs proposed as blockers 7 days or > fewer before the scheduled [[Go_No_Go_Meeting]] for a milestone release > (Beta or Final) can be considered under this po

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-12 Thread Adam Williamson
both''' time '''and''' quality, in some cases we may make an > > exception. There are two main categories of bug that may be > > 'exceptional': > > > > # '''Last minute blocker bugs''' - bugs p

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-12 Thread Kamil Paral
t; blocker bug for the next relevant milestone release. However, bearing > in mind the [[Fedora_Release_Life_Cycle|Fedora life cycle's]] emphasis > on '''both''' time '''and''' quality, in some cases we may make an > exception

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-09 Thread Adam Williamson
ugs''' - bugs proposed as blockers 7 days or fewer before the scheduled [[Go_No_Go_Meeting]] for a milestone release (Beta or Final) can be considered under this policy, as there are some circumstances in which we believe it is not sensible to delay an otherwise-impending release to fix a

Re: Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-08-09 Thread Adam Williamson
in line? It makes it more convenient to read them quickly. For the record, here is Pat's proposal: " 3Last Minute Blocker Bugs 3.1 A Last Minute Blocker Bug occurs when a bug is nominated as a blocker bug seven (7) days or less before a scheduled freeze for

Update to last minute blocker bugs proposal (Rev:07242019)

2019-07-24 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I got feedback from Adam and Ben today; so the following changes have been made: I have added a little paragraph at the beginning to say what a last minute blocker bug is. I used freeze as the time anchor rather than a meeting since that seems to be the most firm time constraint we work to. P

Re: Last minute blocker bugs

2019-07-24 Thread Ben Cotton
I like Pat's proposal, but I don't see that we actually say what a "last minute blocker bug" is. I am in favor of giving us a little lattitude to use judgment, but I think we want to set some sort of guidance for our future selves. We should make it clear that "last minute" status is based on when

Re: Last minute blocker bugs

2019-07-23 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2019-06-17 at 09:20 -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: > Proposed additions to the Blocker Bug Procedure to cover Last Minute > Blocker Bugs (tidied up version). In case we cover this today at the QA > meeting. Thanks for this, Pat, and sorry for the late reply. I will put th

Last minute blocker bugs

2019-06-17 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
Proposed additions to the Blocker Bug Procedure to cover Last Minute Blocker Bugs (tidied up version). In case we cover this today at the QA meeting. Have a Great Day! Pat (tablepc) BlockerBugs.odt Description: application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text

Re: Last minute blocker bugs

2019-05-14 Thread Ben Cotton
I like the general idea of the original draft, but I would go for a simpler route: bugs not nominated as a blocker by the scheduled start of the Go/No-Go meeting are subject to not being considered for blocking the release. This gives us the flexibility to make the best judgment call that we can.

Re: Last minute blocker bugs

2019-05-14 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
Lukas Ruzicka igorleak hau idatzi zuen (2019 mai. 14, ar. 14:12): > > I am talking about the quorum, if there is a late discovered bug, that > would normally be considered a blocker, but because > > a) it could not be fixed on time, and > b) it is not as serious as it would prevent people from us

Re: Last minute blocker bugs

2019-05-14 Thread Lukas Ruzicka
I am talking about the quorum, if there is a late discovered bug, that would normally be considered a blocker, but because a) it could not be fixed on time, and b) it is not as serious as it would prevent people from using Fedora anyway In this case, I think more people to decide is crucial becau

Re: Last minute blocker bugs

2019-05-14 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
Lukas Ruzicka igorleak hau idatzi zuen (2019 mai. 14, ar. 12:55): > Yeah, you can be right, Julen, however the process, as we are having now, > would allow discarding Blocker Bugs possibly anytime, even if 3 or 4 people > would be present on a meeting. And I don't think it is co

Re: Last minute blocker bugs

2019-05-14 Thread Lukas Ruzicka
Yeah, you can be right, Julen, however the process, as we are having now, would allow discarding Blocker Bugs possibly anytime, even if 3 or 4 people would be present on a meeting. And I don't think it is correct to let 4 people decide. In case of a qorum (and I am not saying it has to

Re: Last minute blocker bugs

2019-05-14 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
votes could be recorded in all such meetings (blocker bugs meeting, >go-nogo, ...) >- votes could be casted in Bugzilla and IRC presence does not need to >be required. > > The most important thing is, the majority agrees, not that we need to > organize voting every time

Re: Last minute blocker bugs

2019-05-14 Thread Lukas Ruzicka
I have suggested the quorum, but we can still discuss the exact numbers (mine were just examples). Besides, the votes do not have to come from people present in one particular IRC meeting, but - votes could be recorded in all such meetings (blocker bugs meeting, go-nogo, ...) - votes

Re: Last minute blocker bugs

2019-05-14 Thread Julen Landa Alustiza
On both fc29 and fc30 cycles, nor the later blocker review meetings nor the go/no-go ones did not have 10 participants, so needing a 80% agremeent with a minimum of 10 votes would directly block on last minute bugs on those scenarios. I don't have a clear opinion on this, but for now I would prefe

Re: Last minute blocker bugs

2019-05-14 Thread Lukas Ruzicka
In the last QA team meeting (04/29/2019) I volunteered to help with > adding something to the blocker bug process to handle Last Minute > Blocker Bugs. > > I started by reading: > > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/Q46M75GUKRHMI5IMNGB

Last minute blocker bugs

2019-05-13 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
This is a resend. In the last QA team meeting (04/29/2019) I volunteered to help with adding something to the blocker bug process to handle Last Minute Blocker Bugs. I started by reading: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message

Last minute blocker bugs

2019-05-01 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In the last QA team meeting (04/29/2019) I volunteered to help with adding something to the blocker bug process to handle Last Minute Blocker Bugs. I started by reading: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/test@lists.fedoraproject.org/message/Q46M75GUKRHMI5IMNGBNL6XHLD5GLLTS

Re: Blocker bugs app links to F19 release criteria

2014-10-15 Thread Tim Flink
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:20:59 -0500 Michael Catanzaro wrote: > The blocker bugs app [1] seems to have hardcoded links to outdated > release criteria. Not sure where to file a bug > > [1] https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/propose_bug Wow, that's been around for a whi

Blocker bugs app links to F19 release criteria

2014-10-14 Thread Michael Catanzaro
The blocker bugs app [1] seems to have hardcoded links to outdated release criteria. Not sure where to file a bug [1] https://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/propose_bug signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To

Re: phabricator login, was: Blocker Bugs page, Chrome vs Firefox

2014-08-29 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2014-08-19 at 10:24 -0600, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Aug 19, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Tim Flink wrote: > > > > I don't see a local account in phab for you, so you'd end up clicking > > on the "register or login with persona" button on the login page. > > FedOAuth has persona intergration, so by

Re: phabricator login, was: Blocker Bugs page, Chrome vs Firefox

2014-08-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 19, 2014, at 10:07 AM, Tim Flink wrote: > > I don't see a local account in phab for you, so you'd end up clicking > on the "register or login with persona" button on the login page. > FedOAuth has persona intergration, so by using > @fedoraproject.org, you will be redirected to FedOAuth f

Re: Blocker Bugs page, Chrome vs Firefox

2014-08-19 Thread Tim Flink
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:54:01 -0600 Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Aug 19, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Tim Flink wrote: > > > On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:12:24 -0600 > > Chris Murphy wrote: > > > >> > >> On Aug 19, 2014, at 1:18 AM, Christopher Meng > >> wrote: > >> > >>> I don't see the issue here, too. > >

Re: Blocker Bugs page, Chrome vs Firefox

2014-08-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 19, 2014, at 9:22 AM, Tim Flink wrote: > On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:12:24 -0600 > Chris Murphy wrote: > >> >> On Aug 19, 2014, at 1:18 AM, Christopher Meng >> wrote: >> >>> I don't see the issue here, too. >>> >>> Maybe caused by the special hardware? >> >> Well this is just bizarre. T

Re: Blocker Bugs page, Chrome vs Firefox

2014-08-19 Thread Tim Flink
On Tue, 19 Aug 2014 09:12:24 -0600 Chris Murphy wrote: > > On Aug 19, 2014, at 1:18 AM, Christopher Meng > wrote: > > > I don't see the issue here, too. > > > > Maybe caused by the special hardware? > > Well this is just bizarre. This morning, it's working fine. > Everything is the same, the

Re: Blocker Bugs page, Chrome vs Firefox

2014-08-19 Thread Chris Murphy
On Aug 19, 2014, at 1:18 AM, Christopher Meng wrote: > I don't see the issue here, too. > > Maybe caused by the special hardware? Well this is just bizarre. This morning, it's working fine. Everything is the same, the system hasn't even rebooted. Yesterday I relaunched Chrome, same problem.

Re: Blocker Bugs page, Chrome vs Firefox

2014-08-19 Thread Christopher Meng
I don't see the issue here, too. Maybe caused by the special hardware? -- test mailing list test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/test

Re: Blocker Bugs page, Chrome vs Firefox

2014-08-18 Thread Ed Greshko
On 08/19/14 06:47, Chris Murphy wrote: > Any Chrome users seeing missing header text in the blocker bugs page? I'm > seeing missing text in Chrome on OS X but not Firefox. It also works in > Firefox on Fedora. I don't have Chrome on Fedora at the moment. > > Ticket here,

Re: Blocker Bugs page, Chrome vs Firefox

2014-08-18 Thread moshe nahmias
Hi Chris, Just checked with Chrome (on fedora 20) and it works well. Moshe On Tue, Aug 19, 2014 at 1:47 AM, Chris Murphy wrote: > Any Chrome users seeing missing header text in the blocker bugs page? I'm > seeing missing text in Chrome on OS X but not Firefox. It also works in &

Blocker Bugs page, Chrome vs Firefox

2014-08-18 Thread Chris Murphy
Any Chrome users seeing missing header text in the blocker bugs page? I'm seeing missing text in Chrome on OS X but not Firefox. It also works in Firefox on Fedora. I don't have Chrome on Fedora at the moment. Ticket here, includes screen shots of what I'm seeing: https://f

Re: Install along side Windows (blocker) bugs, 875944 and 885912 and 875484

2012-12-13 Thread Chris Murphy
The breakage of the "guided" path install along side Windows has been broken for a month, apparently: anaconda damages W7 guests when reclaiming space with 'shrink' using AUTOMATIC PARTITIONING https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875484 One of the bugs is a dup it seems. Resize of N

Re: Install along side Windows (blocker) bugs, 875944 and 885912

2012-12-13 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012-12-13 16:20 (GMT-0800) Brian Marshall composed: On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 05:21:03PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: Those who follow all the instructions don't have that problem. Those "unmovable" areas are usually the swap file and/or the hibernation file. Disable those, reboot, and resize

Re: Install along side Windows (blocker) bugs, 875944 and 885912

2012-12-13 Thread Brian Marshall
On Thu, Dec 13, 2012 at 05:21:03PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: > On 2012-12-13 17:04 (GMT-0500) Tom Horsley composed: > >The trouble with that is that the Windows resizer is not very good. > >I tried to do that, but Windows had this giant partition with supposedly > >"unmoveable" data structures righ

Re: Install along side Windows (blocker) bugs, 875944 and 885912

2012-12-13 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012-12-13 17:04 (GMT-0500) Tom Horsley composed: On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:52:46 -0500 Felix Miata wrote: Something should be done to get people to resize Windows Vista+ partitions in advance using Windows' own resizer, leaving the installer to just use freespace. The trouble with that

Re: Install along side Windows (blocker) bugs, 875944 and 885912

2012-12-13 Thread Tom Horsley
On Thu, 13 Dec 2012 16:52:46 -0500 Felix Miata wrote: > Something should be done to get people to resize Windows Vista+ partitions in > advance using Windows' own resizer, leaving the installer to just use > freespace. The trouble with that is that the Windows resizer is not very good. I tried

Re: Install along side Windows (blocker) bugs, 875944 and 885912

2012-12-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2012-12-13 at 14:46 -0700, Chris Murphy wrote: > Since there are no anaconda logs in 885912 I'm going to post mine and see > what gets figured out. There are, they're just compressed. I asked dlehman to look at this this morning. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw

Re: Install along side Windows (blocker) bugs, 875944 and 885912

2012-12-13 Thread Felix Miata
On 2012-12-13 14:21 (GMT-0700) Chris Murphy composed: shrinking Windows partition creates an unusable dual-boot setup https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=875944 Resize of NTFS partition results in partition smaller than the filesystem, broken Windows install https://bugzilla.redhat.com/

Re: Install along side Windows (blocker) bugs, 875944 and 885912

2012-12-13 Thread Chris Murphy
On Dec 13, 2012, at 2:21 PM, Chris Murphy wrote: > > 2. > The other is probably a libntfs-3g bug, so I think 885912 should be > reassigned. > minimum resize, or if it's just screwing up the resize (or both). I think I'm wrong. Looks like anaconda is having parted set the partition size in t

Install along side Windows (blocker) bugs, 875944 and 885912

2012-12-13 Thread Chris Murphy
Instead of cluttering the bug reports, since it's unclear what bug is what, if they are dups, etc. to discuss here. The gist is that regardless of cause, after installing Fedora, Windows 7 is not bootable and is not repairable by the Windows automatic startup repair. shrinking Windows partition

Re: You (yes, YOU) maybe can't yet definitely nominate blocker bugs

2012-11-28 Thread Adam Williamson
Blocks: (and Depends On:) field of any Fedora bug! Thanks to Matt Tyson > for doing this at last. > > What this means is you no longer need editbugs privileges to be able to > propose blocker bugs. This was never intended to be the case, it was > only an unfortunate consequence of the me

You (yes, YOU) can now definitely nominate blocker bugs

2012-11-28 Thread Adam Williamson
this at last. What this means is you no longer need editbugs privileges to be able to propose blocker bugs. This was never intended to be the case, it was only an unfortunate consequence of the mechanism used for nominating bugs as blockers. Now anyone with a BZ account can follow the instructions

Re: Ideas for analyzing the history of blocker bugs

2012-06-25 Thread Tim Flink
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:14:56 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > One area that may be more interesting, I guess, would be to look at > various timing issues. One key one would be 'how long it takes for > bugs to be a) nominated and b) accepted as blockers, after they are > reported'. I've come across

Re: Ideas for analyzing the history of blocker bugs

2012-06-25 Thread Bruno Wolff III
thing we're all more or less aware of anyway: I would expect the majority of blocker bugs to be in anaconda, then in the other obvious early-boot critical components (kernel, plymouth, systemd, udev etc), firstboot, preupgrade, and image generation stuff like livecd-tools. So I'm not sure tha

Re: Ideas for analyzing the history of blocker bugs

2012-06-22 Thread John Reiser
Look at the time difference between blocker status (first bugzilla'd, nominated for blocker, and/or confirmed) and the package revision (culprit created, then fixed.) There might be some relationship between problem packages and frequency of releases. -- -- test mailing list test@lists.fedorapr

Ideas for analyzing the history of blocker bugs

2012-06-22 Thread Adam Williamson
One of the items on the Fedora 17 QA retrospective - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_17_QA_Retrospective - is a suggestion from Bruno that we could perhaps gain some useful insights by analyzing the (by now considerable) corpus of blocker bugs from previous releases, as a way perhaps to

Review and notification of blocker bugs

2011-08-11 Thread Adam Williamson
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Re: Review and notification of blocker bugs

2011-08-11 Thread Tim Flink
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Re: Review and notification of blocker bugs

2011-08-11 Thread Adam Williamson
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Re: Review and notification of blocker bugs

2011-07-29 Thread Adam Williamson
n the schedule is a bit vague, and can easily be taken to refer more to a process of 'take a list of blocker bugs and post it to an email list' rather than the more case-by-case, directly-via-bugzilla approach we've been using lately. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC:

Re: Review and notification of blocker bugs

2011-07-29 Thread James Laska
> F17 and later and forget about it. > > "Daily Review & Notification of Open Alpha|Beta|Final Blocker Bugs" is a > trickier customer. As scheduled, it seems to suggest that for Alpha, > Beta and Final, we should be 'reviewing and notifying' open blockers for > an a

Re: Review and notification of blocker bugs

2011-07-28 Thread Adam Williamson
it I can see would be the potential to catch big > issues a couple of days earlier than we otherwise would. I wonder how > many major issues went undetected in F15 until a blocker review > meeting. Really, not many, I don't think. Several of us, at least including James and myself, make a

Re: Review and notification of blocker bugs

2011-07-28 Thread Tim Flink
On Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:52:12 -0700 Adam Williamson wrote: > "Daily Review & Notification of Open Alpha|Beta|Final Blocker Bugs" > is a trickier customer. As scheduled, it seems to suggest that for > Alpha, Beta and Final, we should be 'reviewing and notifying'

Review and notification of blocker bugs

2011-07-28 Thread Adam Williamson
sted a long time ago by engineering, but never really happened. It's now pretty much superseded by AutoQA upgradepath testing, so I think we can delete it from the calendar for F17 and later and forget about it. "Daily Review & Notification of Open Alpha|Beta|Final Blocker Bugs&quo

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 ON_QA Blocker bugs needing verification

2010-10-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 12:49 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I believe we can't really test the ones in anaconda until images with > > anaconda 14.19 are available - TC1? > > I checked this morning and 14.19 is not yet in the repo for dev

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 ON_QA Blocker bugs needing verification

2010-10-13 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:50 PM, James Laska wrote: > Sure, very possible.  If a yum repo isn't available that has the exact > mix of packages you desire, you'll need to provide one. > > So for anaconda-14.19-1, you could download it and create a local yum > repo for pungi > >        # mkdir /tmp

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 ON_QA Blocker bugs needing verification

2010-10-13 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 21:39 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:20 PM, James Laska wrote: > > > I was attempting just that earlier this week following instructions at > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_build_a_Rawhide_ISO_image_for_testing > > > > I had success creating

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 ON_QA Blocker bugs needing verification

2010-10-13 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:20 PM, James Laska wrote: > I was attempting just that earlier this week following instructions at > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_build_a_Rawhide_ISO_image_for_testing > > I had success creating the ISO files, but they failed to boot due to > 'unable to find /in

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 ON_QA Blocker bugs needing verification

2010-10-13 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 21:14 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:37 PM, James Laska wrote: > > On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 12:49 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Adam Williamson > >> wrote: > >> > >> > I believe we can't really test the ones in anacond

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 ON_QA Blocker bugs needing verification

2010-10-13 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 9:14 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >> Still in >> 'updates-testing' >> (https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/anaconda-14.19-1.fc14) so the >> install images on mirrors won't yet be using anaconda-14.19.  However, the >> posted TC1 ISO images (CD, DVD or boot.iso) contain t

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 ON_QA Blocker bugs needing verification

2010-10-13 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:37 PM, James Laska wrote: > On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 12:49 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> > I believe we can't really test the ones in anaconda until images with >> > anaconda 14.19 are available - TC1? >> >> I ch

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 ON_QA Blocker bugs needing verification

2010-10-13 Thread James Laska
On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 12:49 +0100, mike cloaked wrote: > On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > I believe we can't really test the ones in anaconda until images with > > anaconda 14.19 are available - TC1? > > I checked this morning and 14.19 is not yet in the repo for dev

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 ON_QA Blocker bugs needing verification

2010-10-13 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 8:47 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > I believe we can't really test the ones in anaconda until images with > anaconda 14.19 are available - TC1? I checked this morning and 14.19 is not yet in the repo for development/14/ Do we know when this will a) hit the mirrors, and b)

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 ON_QA Blocker bugs needing verification

2010-10-12 Thread James Laska
On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 12:47 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 12:17 -0400, James Laska wrote: > > Greetings testers! > > > > The bugs listed below are Fedora 14 Blocker bugs that are believed to be > > fixed. Help is needed to ensure Fedora

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 ON_QA Blocker bugs needing verification

2010-10-12 Thread Steven Haigh
On 13/10/10 06:47, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 12:17 -0400, James Laska wrote: >> Greetings testers! >> >> The bugs listed below are Fedora 14 Blocker bugs that are believed to be >> fixed. Help is needed to ensure Fedora 14 ships on time! You can

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 ON_QA Blocker bugs needing verification

2010-10-12 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 12:17 -0400, James Laska wrote: > Greetings testers! > > The bugs listed below are Fedora 14 Blocker bugs that are believed to be > fixed. Help is needed to ensure Fedora 14 ships on time! You can > follow the list of ON_QA bugs at http://bit.ly/bLdmof >

[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 ON_QA Blocker bugs needing verification

2010-10-12 Thread James Laska
Greetings testers! The bugs listed below are Fedora 14 Blocker bugs that are believed to be fixed. Help is needed to ensure Fedora 14 ships on time! You can follow the list of ON_QA bugs at http://bit.ly/bLdmof To get started, for each bug ... 1. Confirm reported bug is fixed, then change

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Blocker Bugs + Review Meeting 2010-10-08 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST)

2010-10-07 Thread Steven Haigh
On 07/10/10 23:08, James Laska wrote: > On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 11:12 +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: >> On 10/07/2010 08:53 AM, John Poelstra wrote: >>> When: Friday, 2010-10-08 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST) >>> Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net >>> >>> Here are the current bugs listed as blocking

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Blocker Bugs + Review Meeting 2010-10-08 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST)

2010-10-07 Thread James Laska
On Thu, 2010-10-07 at 11:12 +1100, Steven Haigh wrote: > On 10/07/2010 08:53 AM, John Poelstra wrote: > > When: Friday, 2010-10-08 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST) > > Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net > > > > Here are the current bugs listed as blocking the final release of Fedora > > 14. We'll

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Blocker Bugs + Review Meeting 2010-10-08 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST)

2010-10-06 Thread Steven Haigh
On 10/07/2010 08:53 AM, John Poelstra wrote: > When: Friday, 2010-10-08 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST) > Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net > > Here are the current bugs listed as blocking the final release of Fedora > 14. We'll be discussing all of these to determine if they meet the > criteri

[Test-Announce] Fedora 14 Blocker Bugs + Review Meeting 2010-10-08 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST)

2010-10-06 Thread John Poelstra
When: Friday, 2010-10-08 @ 16:00 UTC (12 PM EST) Where: #fedora-bugzappers on irc.freenode.net Here are the current bugs listed as blocking the final release of Fedora 14. We'll be discussing all of these to determine if they meet the criteria, should stay on the list, and are getting the attent

Re: Fedora 14 test release blocker bugs

2010-07-07 Thread Adam Williamson
uot;Pre-Alpha Rawhide Acceptance > >> Test Plan" testing this Thursday (2010-07-08). > >> > >> We've run out of time and run way to implement a new means of tracking > >> blocker bugs for Fedora--previously discussed in the context of using > >&g

Re: Fedora 14 test release blocker bugs

2010-07-07 Thread Jesse Keating
). >> >> We've run out of time and run way to implement a new means of tracking >> blocker bugs for Fedora--previously discussed in the context of using >> flags in Bugzilla. We'll continue to use the same process we've used >> for past releases. >

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