email

2023-09-30 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
Good morning, Yesterday I got a new ISP. I have a new email address and I changed my email address in the Fedora Account System. I just checked it this morning and the new address is still there. However this morning the meeting announcements and test reports came to my old email address. For

Re: new criterion proposal: Window manager functionality

2023-03-22 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 3/22/23 03:57, Kamil Paral wrote: Here's a second draft. I took feedback here and also from the QA meeting [1]. The split between the milestones makes this harder to read and compare. If you have better ideas on how to do it, please tell me :-) The only suggestion I have is for the foot n

Possible new test day

2022-12-31 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
This morning when I saw the call for test days e'mail I had an idea that I want to get some feedback on before I propose it as a test day. I manage multiple systems and for each new release of Fedora Workstation, I do installs (clean storage) rather that updates. This gets rid of the trash in

Re: Thoughts welcome: interface between automated test gating and the "critical path"

2022-10-18 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 10/17/22 8:45 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: On Fri, 2022-09-02 at 10:26 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: If we don't think it's worth doing that work, then we're kinda stuck with openQA glomming onto the critpath definition to decide which updates to test and gate, because I don't have any othe

Video issue

2022-10-15 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
This is something I first saw at first branch and I have continued monitoring it since. There has been no change. The problem is that MP4, and AVI videos will not play on Totem. This is probably not a blocker based on the current criteria. I doubt that a bug report is even a proper thing to

Extensions information

2022-09-21 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
Good morning everyone, I know Gnome Shell Extension issues are not considered bugs. This is just information. Earlier when the discussion was going on about not being able to install extensions I sent an e'mail to this list that mentioned this and said I would check it out more when Gnome ha

Re: Release criteria proposal: require GNOME Shell extension install/remove to work

2022-09-12 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 9/12/22 3:35 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: We have a handful of extensions packaged, though I'm not sure how well they're kept up to date. Aside from those, I don't know of any other really practical way for regular users to install extensions besides https://extensions.gnome.org . Is there on

Thoughts welcome: interface between automated test gating and the "critical path"

2022-08-30 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 8/29/22 6:50 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: Hi folks! I have one of those definitional quandaries and I figured I'd throw it at the lists for some input. I spent some years as a project manager and I have lots of experience with schedules. The term Crital Path was formalized in the business

Testing FWS F37 branched 20220816.n.0

2022-08-17 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
Good day everyone, Testing FWS F37 branched 20220816.n.0. This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was check summed and passed then loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The test machine booted to Live normally when the (start F37 live) was selected in G

Re: Test request: Gnome Text Editor infinite loop (RHBZ 2071228)

2022-04-26 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 4/26/22 09:52, Ben Cotton wrote: Hi folks, I saw RHBZ 2071228 [1] proposed as a freeze exception, but it looks blockery to me. The report specifically mentions the fa_IR locale. It would be very helpful for the purposes of blocker decision to know if the problem is specific to that locale o

Re: Proposal: revise "Default application functionality" final criterion to be clearer

2022-01-21 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 1/20/22 19:08, Adam Williamson wrote: Hi folks! So I've had this action item at meetings forever now: "adamw to try and clarify intent of "default application functionality" criterion regarding arches" For all release-blocking desktop / arch combinations, the following applications mu

In regard to testing Fedora 36 Rawhide 20220114.n.0

2022-01-14 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
Testing for Fedora 36 Rawhide 20220114.n.0 has started out a bit rough. I booted the install media and the check passed, but while it was booting the live I got the "Oh no!" sad face. I just waited for a while then clicked the "Log Out" and after a bit the Anaconda started as a very small win

Re: F35 retrospective follow-up: proposed actions

2021-11-27 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 11/26/21 19:04, Adam Williamson wrote: 3. "Ahmedalmeleh - Bugzilla is challenging to me and still getting used to it. I wish I was able to learn how to operate OpenQA's automated tests, in the given timeframe and was given guidance sooner.", also Ahmed's 'wishlist' item and Matt's item - I'

Blocker on Cockpit Machines

2021-09-27 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to the blocker I proposed on Cockpit Machines: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2007775 Martin Pit has added a note to the bug: "This was fixed upstream a few days ago. It will be part of Wednesday's c-machines 253 release." https://github.com/cockpit-project/cockpit-

Re: [Test-Announce] 2021-09-27 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 35 Blocker Review Meeting

2021-09-27 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 9/24/21 20:30, Adam Williamson wrote: # F35 Blocker Review meeting # Date: 2021-09-27 # Time: 16:00 UTC # Location: #fedora-blocker-review on irc.libera.chat In regard to the blocker I proposed on Cockpit Machines: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2007775 Martin Pit has add

Re: Basic criterion proposal: g-i-s shouldn't take 2 minutes to launch

2021-09-17 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 9/17/21 07:29, Lukas Ruzicka wrote: What if we replaced the "10 seconds" with something like "reasonably fast". With different machines people could have different expectations, so somebody could consider 10 seconds a long time, while others could take 20 for normal. This could make more roo

Re: Fedora-Server-dvd-x86_64-35-20210908.n.0 issue

2021-09-09 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 9/9/21 20:14, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2021-09-09 at 15:19 -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: In regard to: Fedora-Server-dvd-x86_64-35-20210908.n.0 Today I thought I would see if the old issue with wireless networking not being available in Fedora Linux Server is making progress

Fedora-Server-dvd-x86_64-35-20210908.n.0 issue

2021-09-09 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to: Fedora-Server-dvd-x86_64-35-20210908.n.0 Today I thought I would see if the old issue with wireless networking not being available in Fedora Linux Server is making progress toward being resolved. This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was che

Testing Fedora 35 Branched 20210831.n.1

2021-09-03 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
With F34 Workstation, I've been using a VM I set up with Cockpit to run F34 Server. Here are then packages I install and settings I did to do this. sudo dnf install cockpit sudo dnf install cockpit-machines sudo dnf install virt-viewer sudo systemctl enable --now cockpit.socket sudo firewall-c

Re: Basic criterion proposal: g-i-s shouldn't take 2 minutes to launch

2021-08-25 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
My guess is that we start counting when the wall paper is up and the top bar is displayed. Have a Great Day! Pat (tablepc) On 8/25/21 06:43, Kamil Paral wrote: On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 12:00 AM Adam Williamson wrote: On Sun, 2021-03-14 at 11:13 -0400, Ben Cotton wrot

packages are in bad shape issue 131

2021-04-05 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I've just read through: #131 Red Hat Bugzilla: GNOME packages are in bad shape. https://pagure.io/fedora-workstation/issue/131 I always like to know the background of people who are talking to me so here's a little, appropriate to this topic, background on me. I'm one of those who help ou

Re: Wayland apparently not compatible with new UHD Graphics CPUs

2021-04-03 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 3/17/21 21:03, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 15:59 -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I know I'm the one who always runs the old PCs, but I recently decided I should have one new one in the mix. The one I got has an ASUS Z590-A motherboard and an Intel i5-10400 proc

Re: Shotwell question

2021-03-28 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 3/28/21 11:30, David wrote: I just installed Shotwell on a Rawhide WS install. I assume the first mirror it tried to contact ( twice ? ), and then went to look in a different mirror ?? Here is a partial readout: Downloading Packages: [MIRROR] shotwell-0.31.3-5.fc35.x86_64.rpm: Status code

Re: Wayland apparently not compatible with new UHD Graphics CPUs

2021-03-18 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 3/17/21 21:03, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2021-03-17 at 15:59 -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I know I'm the one who always runs the old PCs, but I recently decided I should have one new one in the mix. The one I got has an ASUS Z590-A motherboard and an Intel i5-10400 proc

Wayland apparently not compatible with new UHD Graphics CPUs

2021-03-17 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I know I'm the one who always runs the old PCs, but I recently decided I should have one new one in the mix. The one I got has an ASUS Z590-A motherboard and an Intel i5-10400 processor. Well Fedora won't run a Wayland session on it. It will only run a Gnome-xorg session. I even had to run t

Re: Basic criterion proposal: g-i-s shouldn't take 2 minutes to launch

2021-03-15 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 3/15/21 11:57, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 11:13:45AM -0400, Ben Cotton wrote: In the wake of the BZ 1924808[1] discussion in Thursday's Go/No-Go meeting[2], I am proposing an addition to the Basic Release Criteria[3]. This would go into Post-Install Requirements -> Expected

Re: Basic criterion proposal: g-i-s shouldn't take 2 minutes to launch

2021-03-15 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 3/15/21 10:45, Ben Cotton wrote: On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 10:41 AM Brandon Nielsen wrote: Can we also add a "and displayed without error" clause, or maybe "completes with no visible error"? Something to explicitly capture the "sad face" bug[0]. [0] - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.c

Testing F34 WS Beta candidate 1.2

2021-03-14 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to testing F34 WS Beta candidate 1.2: I was glad to see the white screen sad face gone. Everything went fine through testing the SA basics. I did see the continuing SELinux bugs, but I figure those are being worked on. I set up a second user and logged the account in using Gnome-xor

video problem

2021-03-12 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I've been trying to load F33 in a machine with an i5-10400 processor (UHD graphics). The video only works in Gonme xorg mode. I have to run the install from Basic Graphics mode. Is that a known problem? Have a Great Day! Pat (tablepc) ___

Re: Reboot Unmount test case

2021-03-01 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/28/21 16:24, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2021 at 9:37 AM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I noticed that the QA Basic test case for reboot unmount has apparently been removed. Is this no longer necessary with btrfs? When I go to: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki

Reboot Unmount test case

2021-02-27 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I noticed that the QA Basic test case for reboot unmount has apparently been removed. Is this no longer necessary with btrfs? Have a Great Day! Pat (tablepc) ___ test mailing list -- test@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe se

Re: when to btrfs scrub, was: Need help with btrfs.

2021-02-27 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/26/21 14:53, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: On 2/25/21 15:24, Chris Murphy wrote: An alternative is 'btrfs scrub start -BdR' which will not background the scrub, and will give a detailed report upon completion. Well I think tried all the combinations of scrub status with a

Re: when to btrfs scrub, was: Need help with btrfs.

2021-02-26 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/25/21 15:24, Chris Murphy wrote: An alternative is 'btrfs scrub start -BdR' which will not background the scrub, and will give a detailed report upon completion. Well I think tried all the combinations of scrub status with and without -B, -BdR, -dR to try and get status to report whi

Re: when to btrfs scrub, was: Need help with btrfs.

2021-02-25 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/24/21 20:48, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 2:26 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I recall a long and detailed discussion on this list before F33 was released concerning what disk maintenance would be required with BTRFS. As I recall, the final word was along the lines the

Re: Need help with btrfs.

2021-02-23 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/23/21 10:58, Matthew Miller wrote: On Tue, Feb 23, 2021 at 10:18:13AM -0500, Neal Gompa wrote: sudo btrfs scrub start /mnt It's kind of unfortunate that we also have a command (in the distro since 2007) called just "scrub" which will destroy al of your data. :-/ Not going to lie, it to

Re: Blocker bugs

2021-02-22 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/21/21 16:18, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sun, Feb 21, 2021 at 6:18 AM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I'm sitting here thinking about F34 Beta being just two days away and what I have observed in my testing. I must admit being more than a little concerned. Beta freeze starts Tue 2021-

Re: [Test-Announce] 2021-02-22 @ 17:00 UTC - Fedora 34 Blocker Review Meeting

2021-02-22 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I wholeheartedly agree with the proposal this needs to be approved. I just added my encouragements to the discussion. We must not let the approval for this get stalled. The words can be tweaked later if it turns out to be necessary. Have a Great Day! Pat (tablepc) On 2

Blocker bugs

2021-02-21 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I'm sitting here thinking about F34 Beta being just two days away and what I have observed in my testing. I must admit being more than a little concerned. I have watched the blocker bugs and my concern stems from the fact that I don't see some troubling ones listed there. Also there doesn't

F34 WS Beta testing

2021-02-20 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to my continued testing of F34 Workstation Beta. I am currently at drop 0220.n.0 These are bare metal installs on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was check summed and loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The test machine booted to Live normally. Anaconda started norma

testing ws beta

2021-02-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to testing F34 WS Beta 0214.n.0: This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was check summed and loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The test machine booted to Live normally. I haven't seen any No Boots for a couple of drops now. Anaconda star

Re: so.... how solid is the f34 branch at branch time?

2021-02-14 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I'm still seeing this on every restart or shutdown. Currently 0212.n.0 WS Beta. Bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU, Have a Great Day! Pat (tablepc) On 2/13/21 20:35, Chris Murphy wrote: On Sat, Feb 13, 2021 at 12:29 PM Adam Williamson wrote: On Sat

Useful tip from the electronics industry

2021-02-13 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
All connectors both for power and signal have a finite life for mating and de-mating. This is because the actual mating surfaces abrade each other as they slide against each other. Also, any spring features in the connector that keep the mating contacts together loose their tension over repea

Re: Failure to boot Workstation live install images

2021-02-09 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/9/21 18:11, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 3:29 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: As I understand f3 it just writes files to the flash and reads them back checking for errors. I'll go ahead and try f3 on the same thumb drive. It can distinguish between different kin

Re: Failure to boot Workstation live install images

2021-02-09 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/9/21 13:19, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 10:23 AM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I've seen several ISOs lately that after they were written to a thumb drive using media writer they wouldn't boot. I won't be recounting the details I sent in prior motes to @

Failure to boot Workstation live install images

2021-02-09 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I've seen several ISOs lately that after they were written to a thumb drive using media writer they wouldn't boot. I won't be recounting the details I sent in prior motes to @test, but here is a little more information. The last one I tried was Workstation Live 0207.n.0. It failed to boot

rawhide (F34) WS 0206.n.0

2021-02-06 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
For rawhide (F34) WS 0206.n.0 I am back to: It will not boot the Live install thumb drive with no indication of why on my test machine (Lenovo M83 i5-4570). The download, check sum, and mediawriter transfer to the thumb drive showed no issues. Have a Great Day! Pat (tabl

Re: Rawhide (F34) Workstation drop 0128

2021-02-05 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/4/21 16:07, Chris Murphy wrote: On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 6:16 AM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I have noticed that during a restart, the thermal daemon apparently doesn't respond to the stop and the system has to kill it after the 2 minute timeout. This makes restarts very slow. Is t

Re: Rawhide (F34) Workstation drop 0128

2021-02-03 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/2/21 21:23, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2021-02-02 at 13:30 -0500, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I forgot to mention in my last reply that my test PC is set up so it tries to boot BIOS mode first then tries UEFI. Secure Boot is disabled in the firmware setup of my test machine. Hum

Re: Rawhide (F34) Workstation drop 0128

2021-02-03 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
report the results. Have a Great Day! Pat (tablepc) On 2/2/21 21:23, Adam Williamson wrote: On Tue, 2021-02-02 at 13:30 -0500, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I forgot to mention in my last reply that my test PC is set up so it tries to boot BIOS mode first then tries UEFI

Re: Rawhide (F34) Workstation drop 0128

2021-02-02 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/2/21 10:42, Chris Murphy wrote: On Mon, Feb 1, 2021 at 4:39 PM Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2021-02-01 at 17:00 -0500, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: As discussed in today's QA meeting I tried loading and installing Rawhide (F34) Workstation drop 0128. This was done on my

Re: Rawhide (F34) Workstation drop 0128

2021-02-02 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 2/1/21 21:32, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2021-02-01 at 15:39 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: On Mon, 2021-02-01 at 17:00 -0500, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: As discussed in today's QA meeting I tried loading and installing Rawhide (F34) Workstation drop 0128. This was done on my

Rawhide (F34) Workstation drop 0128

2021-02-01 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
As discussed in today's QA meeting I tried loading and installing Rawhide (F34) Workstation drop 0128. This was done on my test machine: This was an attempted bare metal install on a Lenovo M83 desktop with an i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was check summed and passed Then the ISO was loaded to a thum

for qa meeting

2021-01-18 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
Some points for today's QA meeting: Does Gnome have anything like the Fedora new version Change Proposals? If so do we have access to them? I know there are some Fedora folks that also work on Gnome. I have no doubt that they look out for potential issues, but that's not very transparent.

Re: Rawhide F34 observation

2021-01-14 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 1/14/21 03:22, Harold Dost wrote: Essentially 4.0 === 40 and 40 is the new major version. https://9to5linux.com/the-next-major-gnome-release-will-be-gnome-40-coming-march-2021 On Thu 14 Jan 2021 at 00:25, Adam Williamson wrote: On Wed, 2021-01-13 at 13:24 -0500, pmkel...@frontier.com

Re: firewall applet bug

2021-01-14 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 1/14/21 03:49, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/14/21 12:30 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 14/01/2021 16:22, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 1/13/21 11:07 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 14/01/2021 13:54, Samuel Sieb wrote: Application icons stopped being generally supported in Gnome a few releases ago.  Have you tried

Re: Rawhide F34 observation

2021-01-13 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 1/13/21 12:15, Matthew Miller wrote: On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 09:51:50AM -0500, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: While testing Rawhide F34 I have observed that the gnome-tweaks application is missing the Extensions, Top Bar, and Workspaces setting windows. Is this a bug of omission or are these

Rawhide F34 observation

2021-01-13 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
While testing Rawhide F34 I have observed that the gnome-tweaks application is missing the Extensions, Top Bar, and Workspaces setting windows. Is this a bug of omission or are these settings being removed or added to GCC? I don't see them in GCC. Have a Great Day! Pat (

Bug 1888005

2021-01-13 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I filed a bug on an an application (kiten) on F33 Workstation back in October. The application worked fine in F32 WS and it is now working fine in Rawhide F34 WS, but the bug is still present in F33 WS on a fully updated system. I checked and F34 WS is using a newer version of kiten I checked B

firewall applet bug

2021-01-13 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
The firewall applet bug I originally posted about a year ago hasn't received much attention except for the Fedora version being updated. At this point the bug report is a bit messy. Today I decided to look around a bit and see if I could find some more information. The basic problem is that it

firewall applet bug

2021-01-10 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
The firewall-applet bug I originally posted about a year ago hasn't received much attention except for the Fedora version being updated. At this point the bug report is a bit messy. Today I decided to look around a bit and see if I could find some more information. The basic problem is that

Re: testcase base update cli

2021-01-04 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 1/4/21 03:06, Kamil Paral wrote: On Sun, Jan 3, 2021 at 2:58 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: While running tests on Fedora 34 Rawhide 20210102.n.0 When running test case QA:Testcase base update cli, it used to be that there was a single file (something not essential as I recall) that

testcase base update cli

2021-01-03 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
First!... Happy New Year Everyone. I hope you all had Great holidays. While running tests on Fedora 34 Rawhide 20210102.n.0, I saw a problem that has been present for about a year now. If it's considered a but, I am at a loss to understand what category to put it in. When running test case QA

QA:Testcase base update cli

2021-01-02 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
First!... Happy New Year Everyone. I hope you all had Great holidays. While running tests on Fedora 34 Rawhide 20210102.n.0 today, I saw a problem that has been present for about a year now. If it's considered a but, I am at a loss to understand what category to put it in. When running test c

Re: F33 WS ISO checksum

2020-10-28 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 10/28/20 11:44, Ankur Sinha wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 11:21:07 -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: Are you saying that the warning message about the 19 lines is a don't care or is their a problem with the way the checksum file is made? Does this mean that the OK message that comes

Re: F33 WS ISO checksum

2020-10-28 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 10/28/20 11:07, Ankur Sinha wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 10:55:28 -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: On 10/28/20 10:16, Ankur Sinha wrote: I think sha256sum is pointing out the 19 lines related to the PGP Signature in the CHECKSUM file, which it can't understand. https://getfedor

Re: F33 WS ISO checksum

2020-10-28 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 10/28/20 10:16, Ankur Sinha wrote: On Wed, Oct 28, 2020 09:32:51 -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I wanted a fresh copy of the F33 ISO to use for the PCs I maintain. I went to the getfedora.org site. and downloaded the ISO and CHECKSUM files for F33 Workstation. When I run: sha256sum

F33 WS ISO checksum

2020-10-28 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I wanted a fresh copy of the F33 ISO to use for the PCs I maintain. I went to the getfedora.org site. and downloaded the ISO and CHECKSUM files for F33 Workstation. When I run: sha256sum -c Fedora-Workstation-live-33-1;2-x86_64-CHECKSUM I get: Fedora-Workstation-live-x86_64-33-1.2.iso: OK B

Testing F33 Workstation

2020-09-18 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I've been testing right along, but haven't been reporting since the problems I have encountered have been small compared to some of the issues currently on the table. I am currently running F33 Workstation-Live 0916.n.0. As usual my testing is on bare metal. The installs have been running fin

Re: F33 printer

2020-08-27 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
alciregi, I have a similar issue. Reference the bug below. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1812515 Try the following. Set up a root password. On the terminal use (sudo passwd). Enter a pass word and then verify it. Close the terminal. Open your browser and go to localhost:631 then

Testing of Fedora 33 Rawhide 20200811.n.0

2020-08-12 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to my testing of F33 Workstation Rawhide drop 20200811.n.0: This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was check summed and loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The test machine booted to Live normally. Anaconda started normally. For the disk, C

Rawhide (F33 WS) testing

2020-08-05 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I'm about done with the 0804 drop. Mostly I've been concentrating on my as deployed testing to see if btrfs would show a problem. So far though I'll say: Everything is Essentially, Virtually, Effectively, good. :) There are just a couple of old bugs that are still hanging around. https://bug

Re: agenda for todays QA meeting

2020-07-22 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 7/22/20 12:41, Samuel Sieb wrote: Most compression algorithms are far more than "removing same value byte strings".  Check out "huffman encoding" for example.  I've never had a lossless compression program corrupt my data.  Given your extreme mistrust of compression algorithms, it seems

Re: agenda for todays QA meeting

2020-07-22 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 7/21/20 18:06, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Jul 21, 2020 at 3:36 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: The only ones I've ever seen (not a large population since I've been a compression avoid-er) that approach lossless don't compress much and only take out strings of the same

Re: agenda for todays QA meeting

2020-07-21 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 7/21/20 13:11, Chris Murphy wrote: Yeah, lossy algorithms are common in imaging. There are many kinds that unquestionably do not produce identical encoding to the original once decompressed. The algorithms being used by Btrfs are all lossless compression, and in fact those are also commonly

Re: BTRFS testing Rawhide 0703 WS

2020-07-21 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 7/20/20 21:34, Michel Alexandre Salim wrote: That's a misleading log message; see e.g. this discussion https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=231884 You probably want to use this to check the actual RAID level. btrfs filesystem df / source: https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Use

Re: agenda for todays QA meeting

2020-07-21 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 7/20/20 13:31, Samuel Sieb wrote: First a bit of background all the PCs (Fedora WS) I maintain are bought with lots of ram 8GB is the min. I don't think I've ever seen swap move off zero and no one has reported any sort of slowdowns. Yet we do lots of memory intensive things. Of course all

Results from install of old drop of WS

2020-07-20 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
As promised in the QA meeting today I have installed an old drop of WS to find the place in Anaconda I thought was there to turn off or not select compression for a disk drive. As it turns out I must have been having a pleasant dream or mistakenly remembered the one for encryption and There was

agenda for todays QA meeting

2020-07-20 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
Let's talk about zram. I just got around to figuring out what zram is. I see it's automatically set up when Anaconda sets up btrfs. First a bit of background all the PCs (Fedora WS) I maintain are bought with lots of ram 8GB is the min. I don't think I've ever seen swap move off zero and no

brtfs by default

2020-07-15 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
Over the past few days I have learned a little about btrfs. I have provided the links to the posts below: Magazine proposal: (1), Discussion: (2), Ticket 2429: (3) I've done some testing on 0703 with btrfs and I am just getting started with 0713 with btrfs. I think the only way to really get

brtfs by default on F33

2020-07-13 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
Over the past few days I have learned a little about btrfs. I have provided the links to the posts below: Magazine proposal: (1), Discussion: (2), Ticket 2429: (3) I've done some testing on 0703 with btrfs and I am just getting started with 0713 with btrfs. I think the only way to really get

Re: btrfs testing rawhide 0703

2020-07-11 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 7/9/20 10:31, Chris Murphy wrote: On Tue, Jul 7, 2020 at 5:46 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: However as I look at the journal it's not clear if this is a problem or if we need to update the testcase for btrfs. I've attached the journal file for your reading pleasure. This

Re: btrfs testing

2020-07-07 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 7/6/20 19:53, Neal Gompa wrote: On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 7:43 PM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I was not successful in getting the disk configuration set in a configuration that Anaconda would accept for installation. Yeah, custom installation is a little bit of a mind-screw. :( You are

btrfs testing

2020-07-06 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
After the QA meeting today, I spent a few hours trying the get Rawhide 0703 WS Live installed with btrfs. I have Rawhide 0703 WS Live on a thumb drive. I know this works fine when taking the default for the disk. I was trying to do a bare metal install to my test machine (Lenovo M53 with a

Testing of Rawhide F33 Workstation drop 00620.n.1

2020-06-23 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
This is in regard to my testing of Rawhide F33 Workstation drop 00620.n.1: This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was check summed and loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The test machine booted to Live normally. Anaconda started normally. Options to

Re: Curiosity in QA:Testcase base service manipulation

2020-05-13 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 5/13/20 12:34, Adam Williamson wrote: I ended up putting (sudo su) at the top of each script and just ran the commands without the (su -c). That seemed to work fine. Is there a critical to the test reason to use (su -c)? No. It really just means "do this as root". There are various ways y

Curiosity in QA:Testcase base service manipulation

2020-05-13 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to: QA:Testcase base service manipulation Back about a year ago now I started fiddling around with this test case to see if I could make it a bit easier to run. A little background first. After I have my test machine set up and ready to start testing a new drop I always do the login

Testing of: Fedora-WS-Live-rawh-20200510-n-0

2020-05-11 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to my testing of: Fedora-WS-Live-rawh-20200510-n-0 This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was check summed and loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The test machine booted to Live normally. Anaconda started normally. Options to delete all and

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 32 Candidate RC-1.5 Available Now!

2020-04-22 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 4/22/20 16:54, tmsta...@t-mittelstaedt.de wrote: Am 22.04.2020 11:54 schrieb Silvia Sánchez : But from *where* do I download the ISO ? On the wiki page are the download links. https://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/compose/32/Fedora-32-20200421.0/compose/Workstation/x86_64/iso/

Re: Testing of F32 Workstation-Live x86-64 RC1.4

2020-04-21 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 4/21/20 13:25, Adam Williamson wrote: stardict-dic-en stardict-dic-ja These were both retired as they were unmaintained. You can always check this in dist-git: https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/stardict-dic-ja https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/stardict-dic-en general

Testing of F32 Workstation-Live x86-64 RC1.4

2020-04-21 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to my testing of F32 Workstation-Live x86-64 RC1.4: This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was check summed and loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The test machine booted to Live normally. Anaconda started normally. Options to delete all a

accounts-daemon - sys-nice

2020-04-20 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I've seen that SELinux is still not allowing the accounts-daemon access to sys-nice. I see there is a bug filed on this: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1811407 There seem to be two lines of thought about a solution. One to change SELinux granting daemons access and the other see

Re: Proposal to Change: Testcase base service manipulation

2020-04-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 4/16/20 16:48, Adam Williamson wrote: On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 13:57 -0400, pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: It's not about interpretation or not, it's just about a preference for this: Test Steps -- 1. Step 1 2. Step 2 3. Step 3 Expected Results 1. Expecte

Re: Proposal to Change: Testcase base service manipulation

2020-04-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
It's not about interpretation or not, it's just about a preference for this: Test Steps -- 1. Step 1 2. Step 2 3. Step 3 Expected Results 1. Expected result 1 2. Expected result 2 3. Expected result 3 versus this: Test Steps and Expected Results --

Re: Proposal to Change: Testcase base service manipulation

2020-04-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 4/16/20 11:21, Adam Williamson wrote: If we're gonna write test cases like that, we should probably just have an alternative template, or an alternative "mode" for the template we have. I don't like using a template which clearly expects the "Here are the steps, and here are the expected

Re: Proposal to adjust final criterion for backgrounds

2020-04-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
The approach the current criteria were intended to back was one where we would have something like rawhide-backgrounds or development- backgrounds which contained a background image that was very obviously a WORK IN PROGRESS kind of thing - picture of Beefy with "PRE RELEASE" written on it, or

Testing of Workstation-Live RC1.3

2020-04-16 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
In regard to my testing of Workstation-Live RC1.3: This was a bare metal install on a Lenovo M53 with a i5-4570 CPU. The ISO was check summed and loaded to a thumb drive using Media Writer. The test machine booted to Live normally. Anaconda started normally. Options to delete all and reclaim

Re: Testing with NVMe

2020-04-04 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 4/4/20 15:27, Richard Shaw wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 10:45 AM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: I'm not sure the having UEFI is the differentiator... I have a 6th gen I5 computer which boots UEFI fine but predates NVMe. On that one I use a PCIEx4 adapter and have /boot and /boot/E

F32 Workstation-live 0401 drop

2020-04-04 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
I just finished my testing of 0401 on my bare metal test system. The results were not reported because the current event is 0404. Everything looks good except for the bugs I already reported and they are not blockers. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1812510 https://bugzilla.redha

Re: Testing with NVMe

2020-04-04 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
On 4/4/20 10:24, Richard Shaw wrote: On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 9:14 AM pmkel...@frontier.com wrote: One thing that seems rather puzzling is that NVMe is offered in three different connection configurations. PCI-E, USB (with a USB connector), and SSD via SATA (with an SATA connector. Since

Testing with NVMe

2020-04-04 Thread pmkel...@frontier.com
At last Monday's meeting there was mention of a need to start testing with NVMe. I volunteered to get some and help with that. Part of my motivation was the desire to become familiar with it and see if it's something I might have an application for. NVMe seems to have been created created mo

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