Op 31-5-2011 14:51, James Laska schreef:
On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 10:20 +0200, A.J. Werkman wrote:
I just updated a F14 system to F15. After the update I can't login via
the console. Login through the network over ssh is possible.
How did you update (DVD, preupgrade or yum)?
I booted vmlinuz and
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> it would be really good if people can pencil in this event on their
> calendars so we can get some testing of Fedora 15's IPv6 preparedness,
> and it would also be great if those who understand what the hell they're
> doing with IPv6 could
On Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 4:07 AM, Scott Doty wrote:
> On 05/31/2011 12:18 PM, Pasha R wrote:
>>
>> So, lets tackle the screensaver issue again. As I understand from
>> your answer there are currently no plans to return screensavers other
>> than blank screen - it is not a temporary matter of lack o
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/31/2011 11:35 PM, Pratyush Sahay wrote:
> >
> >
> > Also, since the last update, the drive-menu icon is being shown
> > perennially even without any external drives being mounted. When i
> > click on it, its showing the hard drive pa
Greetings All:
I am having problems with installing libreoffice... Here is what I get from
yum...
--> Running transaction check
---> Package libreoffice-core.x86_64 1:3.4.0.1-1.fc16 will be installed
--> Processing Dependency: libhunspell-1.2.so.0()(64bit) for package:
1:libreoffice-core-3.4.0.1
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 23:16 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote:
> Good day,
>
> Just installed fedora 15 - gnome 3 not possible due to card limitations.
>
> Operating on fallback.
>
> I do not seem to locate the option to place applications to startup
> while booting.
>
> In the past it was easy.
>
On 05/31/2011 12:18 PM, Pasha R wrote:
>
> So, lets tackle the screensaver issue again. As I understand from
> your answer there are currently no plans to return screensavers other
> than blank screen - it is not a temporary matter of lack of resources.
> I would like to see this decision reversed
On 06/01/2011 07:49 AM, Antonio Olivares wrote:
> A happy KDE 4.6.X, Gnome 3/Gnome 2.32.X/XFCE/LXDE user:)
> All/Most of the desktops have an equal opportunity to be in my machines and I
> am happy to have them too!
+1
FWIW, the network management GUIs of both GNOME and KDE have
deficiencies.
Lawrence,
> --
> All things are workable but not all things work.
> Prov. 3:5&6
>
> --
The quote
\begin{quote}
All things are workable but not all things work.
Prov. 3:5&6
\end{quote}
applies or not?
Anyhow, For the users that don't like Gnome 3 I like the Dennis Green Quote :)
Q: Who
On 05/31/2011 05:16 PM, Johan Scheepers wrote:
> Good day,
>
> Just installed fedora 15 - gnome 3 not possible due to card limitations.
>
> Operating on fallback.
>
> I do not seem to locate the option to place applications to startup
> while booting.
>
> In the past it was easy.
>
> Kindly point m
On 05/31/2011 01:26 PM, drago01 wrote:
> You missed the point.
Cutting out important parts of e-mails is something I used to do. It
helped emphasize when I missed the point.
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Good day,
Just installed fedora 15 - gnome 3 not possible due to card limitations.
Operating on fallback.
I do not seem to locate the option to place applications to startup
while booting.
In the past it was easy.
Kindly point me in the right direction please.
Thanks
Johan S
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On 05/31/2011 12:13 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
> What do you mean? I quoted the hyperbole.
I just received Pasha's initial e-mail, which you quoted. My mistake.
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> A special thank you Adam for your always cool and polite tone - while
> there are many calm heads - you stand out with your tranquil and
> considered comments.
>
> I hope some others (we) will follow your example - especially when we
> feel particularly strongly ... and avoid the temptation
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 14:34 -0500, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 05/31/2011 01:28 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > it would also be great if those who understand what the hell they're
> > doing with IPv6 could check over the Wiki page for accuracy and
> > completeness.
>
> There don't seem to be
On 05/31/2011 01:28 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> it would also be great if those who understand what the hell they're
> doing with IPv6 could check over the Wiki page for accuracy and
> completeness.
There don't seem to be any formal test cases presently. Are there some
in drafts that I don't s
On Tue, 2011-05-17 at 15:40 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Finally, I have a new proposal for the issue of 'supported' desktops,
> which is blocking another planned criterion that we've been meaning to
> add for a while. I'm now proposing the term 'release-blocking desktops':
> it's simple, it do
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 14:18, Pasha R wrote:
> So, lets tackle the screensaver issue again. As I understand from
> your answer there are currently no plans to return screensavers other
> than blank screen - it is not a temporary matter of lack of resources.
> I would like to see this decision re
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:46, Pasha R wrote:
>> it looks like
>> this car has gas and brake pedals swapped and steering wheel is
>> nowhere to be found..
>
> How can you expect anyone to have a productive discussion with you
> when the
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 19:53 +, Athmane Madjoudj wrote:
> Thanks, I've got an email notification of the changes, if I understood
> correctly, Bodhi gets the test cases from pkg test plan automatically, I
> thought that the update submitter fill the Bodhi's Test cases field
> manually.
Right
On 05/31/2011 02:53 PM, Pasha R wrote:
>
> Generally, screensavers were part of computing experience for a long
> time (15 years at least). People developed tons of different
> screensavers -- ranging from some chaotic graphics to cartoon
>
Lots of business computers use screenvertizing to sho
On 05/31/2011 06:42 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 18:11 +, Athmane Madjoudj wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've just created a Nmap test case:
>>
>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Nmap
>>
>> PS.
>> Spin developers informed:
>> https://fedorahosted.org/security-spin/tick
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:11 PM, drago01 wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Pasha R wrote:
>> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:17 AM, drago01 wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Pasha R wrote:
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jason D. Clinton
wrote:
> On Mon, May 30, 20
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:28, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Hey, folks. If you follow the trac ticket notifications on test@ you may
> have noticed this already, but I know it's easy to tune those out, and
> I'm CCing devel@ so people following that list know about this too.
>
> We're planning a Fedor
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 18:11 +, Athmane Madjoudj wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I've just created a Nmap test case:
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Nmap
>
> PS.
> Spin developers informed:
> https://fedorahosted.org/security-spin/ticket/115#comment:2
Hey, Athmane. I just took a look at a
Hey, folks. If you follow the trac ticket notifications on test@ you may
have noticed this already, but I know it's easy to tune those out, and
I'm CCing devel@ so people following that list know about this too.
We're planning a Fedora IPv6 Test Day to coincide with World IPv6 Day on
June 8. This
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:19 PM, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 05/31/2011 01:11 PM, drago01 wrote:
>> A screensaver isn't the right tool for this ... there are lots of
>> dedicated apps for viewing family pictures.
>
> Displaying random pixels (that just happen to be in the shape of photos)
> is
#192: Proposed Test Day - IPv6 - June 8, 2011 (Wednesday)
---+
Reporter: lwang | Owner:
Type: task | Status: new
Priority: major | Milestone: Fedora 16
Component: Test
On 05/31/2011 01:11 PM, drago01 wrote:
> A screensaver isn't the right tool for this ... there are lots of
> dedicated apps for viewing family pictures.
Displaying random pixels (that just happen to be in the shape of photos)
is not a proper tool for screen saving? Huh? I believe he is not using
On 05/31/2011 08:11 PM, drago01 wrote:
> A screensaver isn't the right tool for this ... there are lots of
> dedicated apps for viewing family pictures.
Some of my machines (servers) are connnected via KVM to a single screen.
I like to see at one glance if they are doing sth (screensaver) or not
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Pasha R wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:17 AM, drago01 wrote:
>> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Pasha R wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jason D. Clinton
>>> wrote:
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 05:29, Pasha R wrote:
> Probably, inability t
On 05/31/2011 11:35 PM, Pratyush Sahay wrote:
>
>
> Also, since the last update, the drive-menu icon is being shown
> perennially even without any external drives being mounted. When i
> click on it, its showing the hard drive partitions which i have
> mounted from /etc/fstab .. This wasnt the beha
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/31/2011 11:19 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> >
> > Works just fine here. What version of GNOME Shell and this extension
> > are you using?
> >
> > $ rpm -q gnome-shell gnome-shell-extensions-drive-menu
> >
> > gnome-shell-3.0.2-1.fc15.x
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:42, John Dulaney wrote:
>>Yes, we use the exact same applet in GNOME 3 Fallback Mode
>>so we have an interest in its continued maintenance for the foreseesble
>> future.
> Indeed. Maybe that's how I got it, from testing fallback? Anyway, it
> still has all the function
>Yes, we use the exact same applet in GNOME 3 Fallback Mode
>so we have an interest in its continued maintenance for the foreseesble future.
Indeed. Maybe that's how I got it, from testing fallback? Anyway, it
still has all the functionality that it had before, or at least everything
I use. I
On May 31, 2011 12:32 PM, "John Dulaney" wrote:
> So, what I use is 'nm-applet'. For some reason, it is
> still there in /usr/bin (not that I'm complaining). It works fine
standing alone without
> any other Gnome components loaded. Since it was included in my clean F15
install,
> I assume that
I'm going to just throw this out there:
I like Fluxbox, and have been running it since F13. Fluxbox does not have it's
own
Network Manager interface. So, what I use is 'nm-applet'. For some reason, it
is
still there in /usr/bin (not that I'm complaining). It works fine standing
alone witho
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 12:25 -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> On 2011/05/31 09:09 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:
>
> > Er, this thread is about NetworkManager. Nothing to do with panels.
>
> Judging by its generic subject line and length, it is about anything and
> everything remotely related to
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 12:07, Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> On 05/31/2011 12:05 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
>> How can you expect anyone to have a productive discussion with you
>> when the starting point is absurd hyperbole?
..
> you are
> replying to the wrong thread.
What do you mean? I quoted
Hello,
I've just created a Nmap test case:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_Nmap
PS.
Spin developers informed:
https://fedorahosted.org/security-spin/ticket/115#comment:2
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On 05/31/2011 12:05 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
> How can you expect anyone to have a productive discussion with you
> when the starting point is absurd hyperbole?
Jason, it seems the discussion is becoming so heated that you are
replying to the wrong thread.
It might be good for everyone to tak
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:46, Pasha R wrote:
> it looks like
> this car has gas and brake pedals swapped and steering wheel is
> nowhere to be found..
How can you expect anyone to have a productive discussion with you
when the starting point is absurd hyperbole?
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On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Lawrence E Graves
wrote:
> I have read all of the opinions about Gnome 3 and was reluctant to
> participate in the discussion but something would not let me leave it
> alone.
> Many of you have purchased new cars and I am quite sure there were some
> things on the
On 05/31/2011 12:16 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
...
usefule information not duplicated .
>
>> I assume the backend NetworkManager daemon is not lacking functionality ?
>
> Correct.
Thanks ... helpful reply ..
I was just wondering, vainly it seems, if there might be a temporary
work aroun
On 2011/05/31 09:09 (GMT-0700) Adam Williamson composed:
> Er, this thread is about NetworkManager. Nothing to do with panels.
Judging by its generic subject line and length, it is about anything and
everything remotely related to F15beta and its successors. :-p
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On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:15, Adam Williamson wrote:
> You also seem
> to be forgetting that he *did* have a specific concern which you haven't
> addressed: he asked why the screensaver functionality had been removed
> and you refused to answer because you didn't like his tone.
I am not here to
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 12:04 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote:
> On 05/31/2011 11:27 AM, Pasha R wrote:
> > This Fedora release is simply too useless for me - DSL connection is
> > just one of many features I lost with this release (actually, it
> > isn't, I never used NetworkManager before as it never
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 09:45 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 09:37, Pasha R wrote:
> > Yes, I am. Some people suddenly force me to either change distribution
> > or to lose access to many functions I found useful and essential, and
> > access to this functionality were one
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 09:30 -0400, ergodic wrote:
> > >> Screensavers has lost there use years ago.
> > >> With today's screens they don't really "save" anything but simply
> > >> waste power for no reason whatever.
>
> Be careful! A Plasma display needs the screensaver to prevent image burn.
On Mon, 2011-05-30 at 20:21 -0700, Scott Doty wrote:
>
> "Jason D. Clinton" wrote:
>
> >It's already been explained to you that it hasn't been replaced. The
> >old and new interfaces are co-deployed intentionally.
>
> Alas, this turns out not to be the case. My Gnome 2 panel has extensive
> c
On 05/31/2011 11:27 AM, Pasha R wrote:
> This Fedora release is simply too useless for me - DSL connection is
> just one of many features I lost with this release (actually, it
> isn't, I never used NetworkManager before as it never supported
> configuration that I want to use).
Speaking of netw
I have read all of the opinions about Gnome 3 and was reluctant to
participate in the discussion but something would not let me leave it
alone.
Many of you have purchased new cars and I am quite sure there were some
things on the car that were not quite what you thought they would be but
I asked th
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Steven Haigh wrote:
> On 1/06/2011 1:36 AM, Pasha R wrote:
>> Unfortunately, Jason's answers on this list and other forums I read
>> indicate unwillingness of at least some Gnome developers to listen to
>> users, but I really hope I'm wrong here.
>
> You should see
On 1/06/2011 1:36 AM, Pasha R wrote:
> Unfortunately, Jason's answers on this list and other forums I read
> indicate unwillingness of at least some Gnome developers to listen to
> users, but I really hope I'm wrong here.
You should see some of the replies I've had over the years about bugs in
ca
On 1/06/2011 12:45 AM, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
> Regardless of whether or not your unhappiness is the result of GNOME
> 3's release, unhappiness does not give you the right to insult, berate
> and abuse us on this or any other mailing list. If you have legitimate
> concerns, you can voice them with
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Frederic Muller wrote:
> On 05/31/2011 10:37 PM, Pasha R wrote:
>> Yes, I am. Some people suddenly force me to either change distribution
>> or to lose access to many functions I found useful and essential,
>
> Hi!
>
> I think there is a slight misunderstanding her
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 09:37, Pasha R wrote:
>> Yes, I am. Some people suddenly force me to either change distribution
>> or to lose access to many functions I found useful and essential, and
>> access to this functionality were one of t
On 5/27/11 8:06 AM, cornel panceac wrote:
>
>
> 2011/5/27 Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R mailto:c...@omen.com>>
>
> 64 bit Fedora 15 release install using the basic video driver
> and manual partitioning completed without error messages.
> Boot loader was to set to the default /dev/sda.
On 05/31/2011 10:37 PM, Pasha R wrote:
> Yes, I am. Some people suddenly force me to either change distribution
> or to lose access to many functions I found useful and essential,
Hi!
I think there is a slight misunderstanding here. GNOME 3.0 is a .0
release and thus bleeding edge. One would exp
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 09:37, Pasha R wrote:
> Yes, I am. Some people suddenly force me to either change distribution
> or to lose access to many functions I found useful and essential, and
> access to this functionality were one of the reasons for me to use
> linux/fedora instead of other OS/dis
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 01:45, Pasha R wrote:
>> Care to explain the logic behind this? Because it is really beyond my
>> understanding.
>
> No, I don't. Your attitude is too antagonistic.
Yes, I am. Some people suddenly force me to eith
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 08:56 -0500, Jason D. Clinton wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 01:45, Pasha R wrote:
> > Care to explain the logic behind this? Because it is really beyond my
> > understanding.
>
> No, I don't. Your attitude is too antagonistic.
I don't think there is anything antagonisti
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 22:21, Scott Doty wrote:
> Alas, this turns out not to be the case. My Gnome 2 panel has extensive
> customizations, none of which appear in Gnome 3...fallback mode or
> otherwise.
You're replying to a thread about NetworkManager. Please start another
thread if you want t
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 01:45, Pasha R wrote:
> Care to explain the logic behind this? Because it is really beyond my
> understanding.
No, I don't. Your attitude is too antagonistic.
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- "drago01" gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Ralf Corsepius freenet.de>
> wrote:
> > On 05/31/2011 09:17 AM, drago01 wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Pasha R
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jason D.
> Clintonjasonclinton.com>
> >>>
On Fri, 2011-05-27 at 10:20 +0200, A.J. Werkman wrote:
> I just updated a F14 system to F15. After the update I can't login via
> the console. Login through the network over ssh is possible.
How did you update (DVD, preupgrade or yum)?
> Does this mean that the update procedure hasn't translate
As always, minutes and IRC transcript available at
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA/Meetings/20110530
Topic: Security test cases from athmane
=
* Security test cases from athmane:
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:Testcase_OpenVAS
On Tue, 2011-05-31 at 01:21 -0700, Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX N2469R wrote:
> KDE may be suitable, but none of the "get vncserver to use kde"
> how-tos seem to work on Fedora 15.
I had occasion to use VNC recently and it worked fine with KDE (on F14
admittedly) with no special configuration. Why would
On 05/31/2011 11:19 AM, Rahul Sundaram wrote:
> On 05/31/2011 09:59 AM, Pratyush Sahay wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> In the PackageKit GUI (Add/Remove Software) , the shell-extension :
>> gnome-shell-extensions-drive-menu has the following description :
>>
>> " Adds a menu in the system status area that
Hello,
I'm trying here as F15 has been just released. Perhaps same problem in
rawhide too..
During latest days I have tested my XPS M1330 Dell laptop with nvidia
proprietary drivers and now I'm evaluating switching to nouveau.
I have final F15 x86_64.
No xorg.conf file and no nvidia rpm bits.
I con
Compose started at Tue May 31 08:15:02 UTC 2011
Broken deps for x86_64
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CGSI-gSOAP-1.3.4.0-2.fc15.i686 requires libvomsapi.so.0
CGSI-gSOAP-1.3.4.0-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libvomsapi.so.0()(64bit)
OpenEXR_Viewers-1.0.2
I usually upgrade to the latest Fedora release for my server,
but the problems with Gnome 3 may prevent that.
I use Fedora on my server as an application platform and
internet gateway. My Gnome 2x panel has 14 windows.
The windows let me keep various "projects" separate.
The server runs in the co
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 9:29 AM, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 05/31/2011 09:17 AM, drago01 wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Pasha R wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jason D. Clinton
>>> wrote:
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 05:29, Pasha R wrote:
>
> Probably
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 10:17 AM, drago01 wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Pasha R wrote:
>> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jason D. Clinton
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 05:29, Pasha R wrote:
Probably, inability to configure your screensaver is much more
noticeabl
On 05/31/2011 09:17 AM, drago01 wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Pasha R wrote:
>> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jason D. Clinton
>> wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 05:29, Pasha R wrote:
Probably, inability to configure your screensaver is much more
noticeable than inab
2011/5/31 drago01
> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Pasha R wrote:
> > On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jason D. Clinton
> wrote:
> >> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 05:29, Pasha R wrote:
> >>> Probably, inability to configure your screensaver is much more
> >>> noticeable than inability to stop cop
On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Pasha R wrote:
> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 6:27 PM, Jason D. Clinton
> wrote:
>> On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 05:29, Pasha R wrote:
>>> Probably, inability to configure your screensaver is much more
>>> noticeable than inability to stop copy operation. :)
>>
>> Now *th
On Mon, May 30, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Richard Ryniker wrote:
>>I don't understand why Fedora maintainers decide to replace functional
>>software by software that lacks many essential features ...
>
> I have no direct connection to Fedora decision-makers, but I doubt this
> is something they "decide" t
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