Re: [techtalk] Layman's Guides to Computer Security

2001-05-15 Thread jenn
Raven, corporate courtesan wrote: > How about something positive, then? "A Practical Guide to...", "A > Down-to-Earth Guide to...", "Things I Wish Someone Had Told Me When I > Was Learning Computer Security"... [grin] And James Sutherland said: > "Basics of ..." or "... for beginners" sou

[techtalk] Benchmarking, Bandwidth, server speed

2001-05-15 Thread Michelle Murrain
Hi folks, I'm trying to solve a mystery, and at the same time, figure out good metrics to determine our server speed, network speed, capacity, etc. One database-driven page in particular loads *extremely* slowly (like, minutes), from several computers in the client's office. I've NEVER had the

Re: [techtalk] Benchmarking, Bandwidth, server speed

2001-05-15 Thread Daniel Manrique
> I'm trying to solve a mystery, and at the same time, figure out good metrics > to determine our server speed, network speed, capacity, etc. tough order :) > One database-driven page in particular loads *extremely* slowly (like, > minutes), from several computers in the client's office. I've

Re: [techtalk] Re: techtalk digest, Vol 1 #447 - 11 msgs

2001-05-15 Thread Curious
In classical security thought.. once someone has physical access to a box (router, workstation, etc) they are assumed to "own" the box.. and in most cases this is quite true.. so physical security, policy.. grr ARRRGGHH.. must stop security babble! okok.. moving on.. Additional steps(keeping a

[techtalk] useful system recovery links:

2001-05-15 Thread Curious
since we are talking about rescue systems.. just thought I'd through some stuff out that I've found TRULY useful: The coroner's toolkit (qsome forensic and file recovery tools): http://www.fish.com/tct/ Linuxcare's bootable business card: http://open-projects.linuxcare.com/BBC/download.epl Tom

Re: [techtalk] Physical security example

2001-05-15 Thread Curious
Just a note about physical security.. keep in mind.. if your physical security plans aren't realistic... you may end up creating a worse situation.. ie. lets take a door where you have to use 10diffrent bio-scans to get into the facility.. and people have to do it constantly.. how long do you t

linux security resources (shortlist) was: Re: [techtalk] Re: techtalk digest, Vol 1 #449 - 9 msgs

2001-05-15 Thread Curious
linux specific: (short list to get you started) Resources: books: http://www.hackinglinuxexposed.com/ http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/puis/ links: http://www.linuxdoc.org/LDP/solrhe/Securing-Optimizing-Linux-RH-Edition-v1.3/index.html http://www.securityportal.com/lasg/ http://www.linuxsecurity.c

Re: [techtalk] Benchmarking, Bandwidth, server speed

2001-05-15 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 04:13:41PM -0500, Daniel Manrique wrote: > Do you know for sure that the page itself isn't the problem? if you need > data from a complex query to build the page, it might be that the database > is suffering. In this case maybe checking what the heck the database is > doing

Re: [techtalk] Layman's Guides to Computer Security

2001-05-15 Thread Conor Daly
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 10:11:14AM +1000 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, [EMAIL PROTECTED] thought: > David Merrill wrote: > > > > I like `backgrounder' or `introduction to...'. I don't particularly > > like `layman', mostly because after reading your docs I don't think > > they are useful onl

Re: [techtalk] Eric Raymond, MS security, and open source..

2001-05-15 Thread Conor Daly
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 08:16:51PM -0500 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Daniel Manrique thought: > > > However, I don't see why they make such a big fuss about it; after all, > Linux has backdoors too so there's no difference between them. > 'cos you can find and close the backdoors with op

Re: [techtalk] Layman's Guides to Computer Security

2001-05-15 Thread Conor Daly
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 02:38:35PM -0500 or so it is rumoured hereabouts, Samuel Tesla thought: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Mon, 14 May 2001, Brian Sweeney wrote: > > > I read a really good book a while back called "Physics for the Rest of > > Us"(HIGHLY recommended

Re: [techtalk] Eric Raymond, MS security, and open source..

2001-05-15 Thread Daniel Manrique
> > > > > > However, I don't see why they make such a big fuss about it; after all, > > Linux has backdoors too so there's no difference between them. > > > > 'cos you can find and close the backdoors with open source stuff (or was > that irony above?). I was deliberately mocking the entire "

Re: [techtalk] Modems & partially digital phone lines

2001-05-15 Thread Daniel Manrique
> > When my phone service carrier was Pacific Bell I could connect to my ISP at > speeds between 46k & 50k. However, when I changed my carrier to Cox > Communications the connection speed dropped to 34k. Now whenever I connect > to my ISP the speed is always 34k. I have changed nothing & my modem

Re: [techtalk] Physical security example

2001-05-15 Thread coldfire
> Just a note about physical security.. keep in mind.. if your physical security plans aren't realistic... you may end up creating a worse situation.. ie. lets take a door where you have to use 10diffrent bio-scans to get into the facility.. and people have to do it constantly.. how long do you th

Re: [techtalk] Benchmarking, Bandwidth, server speed

2001-05-15 Thread coldfire
> On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 04:13:41PM -0500, Daniel Manrique wrote: > > Do you know for sure that the page itself isn't the problem? if you need > > data from a complex query to build the page, it might be that the database > > is suffering. In this case maybe checking what the heck the database is

Re: [techtalk] Layman's Guides to Computer Security

2001-05-15 Thread coldfire
Issac Asimov is a good man ... i always enjoyed reading his science and his philosophy :) but seriously, regarding the titles of books ... i don't understand how anyone can really care .. if it's an excellent book, should it matter that it's titled "linux for the computer illiterate?" or how abo

Re: [techtalk] Eric Raymond, MS security, and open source..

2001-05-15 Thread coldfire
> Daniel Manrique thought: > > > > However, I don't see why they make such a big fuss about it; after all, > > Linux has backdoors too so there's no difference between them. > > > > 'cos you can find and close the backdoors with open source stuff (or was > that irony above?). linux has backdoo

Re: [techtalk] Eric Raymond, MS security, and open source..

2001-05-15 Thread coldfire
> > > > > > However, I don't see why they make such a big fuss about it; after all, > > > Linux has backdoors too so there's no difference between them. > > > > > > > 'cos you can find and close the backdoors with open source stuff (or was > > that irony above?). > > I was deliberately mocking

Re: [techtalk] Modems & partially digital phone lines

2001-05-15 Thread coldfire
> > When my phone service carrier was Pacific Bell I could connect to my ISP at > > speeds between 46k & 50k. However, when I changed my carrier to Cox > > Communications the connection speed dropped to 34k. Now whenever I connect > > to my ISP the speed is always 34k. I have changed nothing & my

Re: [techtalk] Physical security example

2001-05-15 Thread Kai MacTane
At 5/15/01 06:38 PM , coldfire wrote: > > Just a note about physical security.. keep in mind.. if your physical >security plans aren't realistic... you may end up creating a worse >situation.. ie. lets take a door where you have to use 10diffrent >bio-scans to get into the facility.. and people ha

[techtalk] linux books

2001-05-15 Thread Ms. Piglet
Actually, one of my favorite newbie books is Linux for Windows Addicts. Given that a lot of folks come to linux from windows (as opposed to it being their first introduction to computers at all), it's rather nice in that it gives a lot of equivalents.such as "this thing I'm telling you about

Re: [techtalk] Benchmarking, Bandwidth, server speed

2001-05-15 Thread Raven, corporate courtesan
Heya -- Quoth Michelle: > I'm trying to solve a mystery, and at the same time, figure out good > metrics to determine our server speed, network speed, capacity, etc. Hoo boy. Good idea, but these are three separate issues, so you're going to have to troubleshoot and benchmark each one sepa

Re: [techtalk] Modems & partially digital phone lines

2001-05-15 Thread Raven, corporate courtesan
Heya -- Lots of networking questions today! Quoth Davida: > I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this problem: > When my phone service carrier was Pacific Bell I could connect to my > ISP at speeds between 46k & 50k. However, when I changed my carrier > to Cox Communications the

Re: [techtalk] Modems & partially digital phone lines

2001-05-15 Thread Raven, corporate courtesan
Heya -- Lots of networking questions today! Quoth Davida: > I was wondering if anyone else has encountered this problem: > When my phone service carrier was Pacific Bell I could connect to my > ISP at speeds between 46k & 50k. However, when I changed my carrier > to Cox Communications the

Re: [techtalk] Layman's Guides to Computer Security

2001-05-15 Thread Raven, corporate courtesan
Heya -- >> "So what sort of presentation software are you using?" >> "Ummm, vi." >> "Oh. Is there a conversion program for that? I can't read >> these files in NT. Maybe you should use Windows." >> -- a recent conversation with our new technical management > > Heh. Ignorance, hmm? Yu

Re: [techtalk] Benchmarking, Bandwidth, server speed

2001-05-15 Thread David Merrill
On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 07:11:18PM -0700, Raven, corporate courtesan wrote: > There are a few different ways to test your throughput. Many ISPs > will have test files that you can FTP to and from them to use up all > the available bandwidth. Or, you can try to pingflood your line Try runn