Re: [techtalk] POP mail security

2000-01-11 Thread Dan McGarry
- Original Message - From: Emily Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 7:49 AM Subject: Re: [techtalk] POP mail security > On Sat, 08 Jan 2000 18:52:29 +1100 > "Jenn V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >

Re: [techtalk] POP mail security

2000-01-11 Thread Michael Carson
Emily Cartier wrote: > That's odd. When I use man, it usually acts as if it's piped through > less to begin with. More doesn't need a 'q' to end, but less does. On some systems, more is less. :) Either an alias or a symlink. C. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [techtalk] POP mail security

2000-01-11 Thread Emily Cartier
On Sat, 08 Jan 2000 18:52:29 +1100 "Jenn V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Laurel Fan wrote: > > > > > If the asker does know how to do all of this, and is insulted, I'm > > sorry, but I'm glad you're insulted because you just wasted my time. > > Actually, you didn't waste your time - I d

Re: [techtalk] POP mail security

2000-01-08 Thread Robert Kiesling
"Jenn V." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The list also specifically says not to tell people to RTFM. I appreciate > that that was not your intention, but I recall glancing at your answer and > thinking 'uh, that's perilously close to a blunt RTFM. A newbie is going to > be put off and upset by tha

Re: [techtalk] POP mail security

2000-01-08 Thread Laurel Fan
Excerpts from linuxchix: 8-Jan-100 Re: [techtalk] POP mail sec.. by "Jenn V."@simegen.com > if I know I'm planning to search a man page I pipe > it through less. I can save myself a step now. :) If you prefer less, you can set the environment variable PAGER to less. It c

Re: [techtalk] POP mail security

2000-01-07 Thread Jenn V.
Laurel Fan wrote: > > If the asker does know how to do all of this, and is insulted, I'm > sorry, but I'm glad you're insulted because you just wasted my time. Actually, you didn't waste your time - I didn't realise 'man' was paged with 'more' typically - if I know I'm planning to search a ma

Re: [techtalk] POP mail security

2000-01-07 Thread Laurel Fan
Excerpts from linuxchix: 8-Jan-100 Re: [techtalk] POP mail sec.. by "Jenn V."@simegen.com > Presumably, since I /think/ the original requester wrote saying 'I looked > there', she didn't. Well, the original requester didn't say anything about having look

Re: [techtalk] POP mail security

2000-01-07 Thread Jenn V.
Laurel Fan wrote: > I don't know where you get that I was telling her to search "useless > sources of information". I merely explained how I would go about > looking for that answer, and I think it was useful, since I found the > answer about 3 times, in one form or another. Presumably, since

Re: [techtalk] POP mail security

2000-01-07 Thread Laurel Fan
Excerpts from linuxchix: 7-Jan-100 RE: [techtalk] POP mail sec.. by "Linda Walsh"@sgi.com > I typed man on pop, pop3, imap and imap4 and they all came up > null. Would it help you if I pasted the relevant part of the fetchmail manpage? Would it help you if I said

RE: [techtalk] POP mail security

2000-01-07 Thread srl
On Fri, 7 Jan 2000, Linda Walsh wrote: > It so happens this whole bit of POP security was going through > my head as I was evaluating the idea of getting a service provider > email address in case I moved jobs. I requirement would be the ability > to automatically (perl script) pull the me

RE: [techtalk] POP mail security

2000-01-07 Thread Linda Walsh
> -Original Message- > From: Laurel Fan > Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 6:47 PM > To: Linux Ladies > Subject: Re: [techtalk] POP mail security > > > Most unix programs come with documentation. Usually this is in the form > of a man(ual) page. These c

Re: [techtalk] POP mail security

2000-01-06 Thread Chris J/#6
Try looking up about APOP authentication. Not all POP servers support it though, and I don't know what mail client support for APOP is like, but I think fetchmail is quite happy with it. APOP takes your username and password, and creates and md5 hash of the password and a timestamp returned b

Re: [techtalk] POP mail security

2000-01-05 Thread Laurel Fan
Excerpts from linuxchix: 5-Jan-100 [techtalk] POP mail security by Subba [EMAIL PROTECTED] > What is the best way to protect my users passwords from being sniffed? > Can a user use an encrypted tunnel to send the userid and password to > the pop server? Most unix programs come with documentation

Re: [techtalk] POP mail

1999-12-16 Thread Steve Kudlak
Samantha Jo Moore wrote: > > First: > > My work email is irrevelant. > > Got that. > > > Second: > > It's my PERSONAL email that I am concerned about with the POP. > ... snip ... > > Does this make any more sense? > Yep, its what I should have said. When breaking the various things but setti

Re: [techtalk] POP mail

1999-12-16 Thread Steve Kudlak
"Jenn V." wrote: > Di Gregory wrote: > > > > SO how do I have a POP email account if I can't dial up into the account > > directly. I couldn't get the POP email to work when I set up my old > > roommate's I -THINK- because our dialup was a local provider, the pop > > email was through school (

Re: [techtalk] POP mail

1999-12-15 Thread Laurel Fan
Excerpts from linuxchix: 15-Dec-99 RE: [techtalk] POP mail by Di [EMAIL PROTECTED] > It's my PERSONAL email that I am concerned about with the POP. My > regular email address is currently a Unix shell account. They do have > POP3 setup but AFAIK not SMTP. If they do have it,

RE: [techtalk] POP mail

1999-12-15 Thread Samantha Jo Moore
> First: > My work email is irrevelant. Got that. > Second: > It's my PERSONAL email that I am concerned about with the POP. ... snip ... > Does this make any more sense? Well, I can see that you have a little bit of confusion over the different mail services. I would like to stress the point

Re: [techtalk] POP mail

1999-12-15 Thread Jenn V.
Di Gregory wrote: > > SO how do I have a POP email account if I can't dial up into the account > directly. I couldn't get the POP email to work when I set up my old > roommate's I -THINK- because our dialup was a local provider, the pop > email was through school (NOT the provider) and ALTHOUG

RE: [techtalk] POP mail

1999-12-15 Thread Di Gregory
Looks like I confused some people. First: My work email is irrevelant. Second: It's my PERSONAL email that I am concerned about with the POP. My regular email address is currently a Unix shell account. They do have POP3 setup but AFAIK not SMTP. If they do have it, I can't use it because I

Re: [techtalk] POP mail

1999-12-15 Thread Laurel Fan
Excerpts from linuxchix: 15-Dec-99 Re: [techtalk] POP mail by Laurel [EMAIL PROTECTED] > 354 Enter mail, end with "." on a line by itself > This is a mail. Hm.. looks like it actually used the "." on a line by itself.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

Re: [techtalk] POP mail

1999-12-15 Thread Jenn V.
Di Gregory wrote: > > For our corporate email, we use Iplanet webtop and have a java or HTML > client that you use through a browser. It's all IMAP, and works fine. > I'd like to use a "real" client though with my personal email. Pine is > great, but doesn't work very well with editing the t

Re: [techtalk] POP mail

1999-12-15 Thread Laurel Fan
Excerpts from linuxchix: 15-Dec-99 RE: [techtalk] POP mail by Di [EMAIL PROTECTED] > The thing that really got me, is that when I hooked up my old roommate's > email through POP, the school's servers will send it if you're not dialed > up into them, but when he sent

RE: [techtalk] POP mail

1999-12-15 Thread Samantha Jo Moore
> Doesn't quite help though. The cable connection I have at home is > roadrunner, and like I said, I will probably cancel it sometime since I > have a free dialup through work. The dialup through work is actually a > watered-down AOL account - it uses AOL's network but not the client, and > has

Re: [techtalk] POP mail

1999-12-15 Thread Chris J/#6
> > I don't know exactly how it works, but secure pop provides for a secure > mechanism of transmitting these data items, and possibly the content of > the mail comming back to you. > I'm not sure if there is a totally encrypted POP session, but usernames and passwords can be hidden using AP

Re: [techtalk] POP mail

1999-12-15 Thread Laurel Fan
Excerpts from linuxchix: 15-Dec-99 RE: [techtalk] POP mail by [EMAIL PROTECTED] > okay, what's this i've heard about "Secure POP"? I'm assuming this is a > modified POP that sets up a secure connection between the server and the > client, to avoid sniffing? Y

RE: [techtalk] POP mail

1999-12-15 Thread Samantha Jo Moore
> okay, what's this i've heard about "Secure POP"? I'm assuming this is a > modified POP that sets up a secure connection between the server and the > client, to avoid sniffing? Yes. The problem with regular POP servers is that they establish an ASCII based conversation through stdio. You can c

RE: [techtalk] POP mail

1999-12-15 Thread Di Gregory
THanks, Doesn't quite help though. The cable connection I have at home is roadrunner, and like I said, I will probably cancel it sometime since I have a free dialup through work. The dialup through work is actually a watered-down AOL account - it uses AOL's network but not the client, and ha

RE: [techtalk] POP mail

1999-12-15 Thread srl
On Wed, 15 Dec 1999, Samantha Jo Moore wrote: > OK. First of all POP mail involves the use of two types of servers. A > POP3 server is used to download incomming mail to your mail client. For > outgoing mail an SMTP server is used to deliver the mail. okay, what's this i've heard about "Secur

Re: [techtalk] POP mail

1999-12-15 Thread Laurel Fan
Have you looked at the Mail HOWTO? (http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/Mail-HOWTO.html) [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.linuxchix.org

RE: [techtalk] POP mail

1999-12-15 Thread Samantha Jo Moore
> Hi I was wondering if someone could explain some mechanics of POP mail to > me. I have a Unix account, which I'm not sure is set up for POP mail or > not. I know that when I have tried, I got responses from the server that > said "we do not relay". I tried to set up my roommate's pop mail whi