Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-05-14 Thread Magni Onsoien
Mary Gardiner: > It would have two problems that I can see: > > 1) If you connect to it remotely in http, not https, your password/phrase will > pass to the webserver in clear text, negating the whole point of ssh. Mindterm is a java applet, so it runs on your machine (i.e. in your local browse

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-05-13 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:07:07AM -0400, Christian MacAuley wrote: > About accessing SSH from any old place ... > > One of my friends is using a Java applet called Mindterm to use SSH from any > web browser. He just goes to a web page where the applet is embedded. It's > pretty cool, but i don't

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-05-13 Thread Christian MacAuley
About accessing SSH from any old place ... One of my friends is using a Java applet called Mindterm to use SSH from any web browser. He just goes to a web page where the applet is embedded. It's pretty cool, but i don't know what added security risks are involved. Anyone else know? http://www.min

Lame Language (was: Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet(civility)

2001-04-16 Thread Curious
I'm moving this thread to geekgrrl.. since it seems to be where issues conversation has moved... Language can be so anyoing sometimes... sometimes in unexpected ways... Take for example a youngster who had difficulty hearing.. according to the National Association for the Deaf.. the term to be

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet(civility)

2001-04-13 Thread Vinnie
On Thu, 12 Apr 2001, Steve Kudlak wrote: > Maybe I should read more closely. Yes, you should. http://www.linux.org.uk/pipermail/techtalk/2001-April/003353.html > MY wonderment is that no one ever > asked what was the problem of running telnet. I think it's because everyone here already prett

Re: Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-12 Thread Tami Friedman
>Actually isn't putty an ssh client? If so, she could have avoided the whole >mess by truthfully answering that she was not running telnet. Also, if she >ran it from the floppy, then she wasn't installing anything on the machine. Putty can do ssh but the machine I telnet into uses kerberos or

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-12 Thread David Merrill
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 08:45:00PM -0500, Julie wrote: > From: David Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > FYI, at least here in the States, `fag' isn't considered good usage > > even in gay circles. Some folks use `queer' because they are happy to > > identify as being outside the mainstream and/or a b

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-12 Thread Eva Fenrich
Hi! On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 07:05:09PM +0100, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > As a practical suggestion for the future, there is a way to have a > java client sitting on a machine which gives you a terminal prompt. > You can set it up, then browse from another machine, point the > browser at the java client

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet(civility)

2001-04-11 Thread Steve Kudlak
Vinnie wrote: > On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, A Kozic wrote: > > > But the use in question was using `faggotry' as a synonym for lameness, > > which I could say is offensive to the disabled folks, but I'm not disabled > > or offended, so I won't. > > /me wanders out of his lair. > > Okay, I will. Words

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-11 Thread Rick Scott
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 07:05:09PM +0100, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > Watching someone in a terminal room. Stuck in floppy. Started machine. > It went through virus-check. "Beep! This has a virus!" "Oh no!" cried > the student. "A virus on the computer!" He whipped his floppy out... > > ...and stuck it

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-11 Thread Julie
From: David Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > FYI, at least here in the States, `fag' isn't considered good usage > even in gay circles. Some folks use `queer' because they are happy to > identify as being outside the mainstream and/or a bit odd, but nobody > likes `fag'. The word does indeed come fro

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-11 Thread Kathryn Hogg
A Kozic said: > And I've never heard a term for gay transexual men other than > `transfags' (or `gay transexual men', but that is a mouthful. No double > entendre intended...). It all depends on the audience and the intent of > the speaker I'm not sure what you mean by gay transsexual men. D

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-11 Thread Vinnie
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001, A Kozic wrote: > But the use in question was using `faggotry' as a synonym for lameness, > which I could say is offensive to the disabled folks, but I'm not disabled > or offended, so I won't. /me wanders out of his lair. Okay, I will. Words are just that -- it's meanings

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-11 Thread Rachel Andrew
> >If I were running a public internet access place, users would not >have install permissions and there wouldn't be floppy drives. >People could download all you want, but all downloads would be >masked to no-execute and saved to a separate place. Then when >you're done, you can bring your flo

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-11 Thread A Kozic
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 David Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > FYI, at least here in the States, `fag' isn't considered good usage > even in gay circles. Some folks use `queer' because they are happy to > identify as being outside the mainstream and/or a bit odd, but nobody > likes `fag'. Hmm...

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-11 Thread Telsa Gwynne
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 02:36:02PM +1000 or thereabouts, Mary Gardiner wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 11:14:34AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Tami Friedman wrote: > > > For now, I am curious if anyone > > > can give me a good reason why a sysadmin would not allow telnet to > >

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-11 Thread wny-tc
Hi Tami. Keith here in the Depths of the Great Bergen Swamps. Being able to use a floppy in a public-access computer would be all but impossible up here in my neighborhood. The local county library system requires that one buy a "clean" floppy from the desk to download anything to disk. The pr

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-11 Thread David Merrill
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 02:28:36PM +0100, Telsa Gwynne wrote: > "fag" is used for a cigarette, yes. But I've had so many "um, I mean cig" > experiences talking to people not from here that I try to avoid it. > It's also used as a word for gay people, and is generally not intended > nicely, althoug

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-11 Thread Telsa Gwynne
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 09:18:26PM -0500 or thereabouts, Kathryn Hogg wrote: > Mary E. Mulderrig said: > > It is offensive to me. It seems homophobic. > > -Mary. > > > > > This is in your recognition of your efforts to be a person that increases > > > the level of faggotry and lameness on this p

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-11 Thread Sienca Teng
On Wed, 11 Apr 2001 00:27:29 -0700, I wrote: > And for good reason, I think. Oops, forgot to mention... I'm absolutely not saying that Tami deserved the treatment that she got. It sounds like their rules were vague, their staff were completely lacking people skills and the police(!) did not need

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-11 Thread Sienca Teng
Mary wrote: > Use of things like telnet, or anything that isn't the web, is > regarded as generally suspicious by people who staff things > like library terminals. And for good reason, I think. I'm amazed they even have floppy drives on the machines. People could bring in infected disks. If a

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-10 Thread Curious
Actualy "No downloading" (though probably more vauge then most policies I've read.. since the very act of viewing a webpage is downloading) is a fairly common policy with large companies.. maintaining systems can be quite a difficult task.. adding random applications to a system can add lots of

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-10 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Tue, Apr 10, 2001 at 09:04:44PM -0500, Kathryn Hogg wrote: > Actually isn't putty an ssh client? If so, she could have avoided the whole > mess by truthfully answering that she was not running telnet. Also, if she > ran it from the floppy, then she wasn't installing anything on the machine.

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-10 Thread Mary Gardiner
On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 11:14:34AM +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Tami Friedman wrote: > > For now, I am curious if anyone > > can give me a good reason why a sysadmin would not allow telnet to > > be used (when the m$ equivalent of a daemon) is not disabled? > > Well, an

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-10 Thread Kath
ED]> To: "Kath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet > It is offensive to me. It seems homophobic. > -Mary. > > > > This is in your recognition of your efforts

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-10 Thread Kathryn Hogg
Mary E. Mulderrig said: > It is offensive to me. It seems homophobic. > -Mary. > > > > This is in your recognition of your efforts to be a person that increases > > the level of faggotry and lameness on this planet! I'm not sure of the meaning in this case but I suspect that the word faggotry

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-10 Thread Kathryn Hogg
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > Tami Friedman wrote: > > > For now, I am curious if anyone > > can give me a good reason why a sysadmin would not allow telnet to > > be used (when the m$ equivalent of a daemon) is not disabled? > > Well, an unrelated reason is that SSH is far, FA

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-10 Thread Mary E. Mulderrig
It is offensive to me. It seems homophobic. -Mary. > This is in your recognition of your efforts to be a person that increases > the level of faggotry and lameness on this planet! > > YOUR CONTRIBUTION HAS NOT GONE UNRECOGNIZED! ___ techtalk mailing

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-10 Thread jenn
Tami Friedman wrote: > For now, I am curious if anyone > can give me a good reason why a sysadmin would not allow telnet to > be used (when the m$ equivalent of a daemon) is not disabled? Well, an unrelated reason is that SSH is far, FAR more secure. It doesn't plaintext-

Re: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-10 Thread Kath
GONE UNRECOGNIZED! - Kath - Original Message - From: "Tami Friedman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2001 7:39 PM Subject: [techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet > Last Thursday I was using my sneakernet copy of p

[techtalk] Almost arrested for using telnet

2001-04-10 Thread Tami Friedman
Last Thursday I was using my sneakernet copy of putty on an NT server at the Texas Workforce Commission to check email of fencepost. I had been doing this for a number of weeks as I am job-searching and have included my email address on my resume. Some yo