On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 12:04 PM Jason McIntyre wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 11:49:09AM -0800, Philip Guenther wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 11:33 AM Jason McIntyre
> wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > > i have to say, i'm getting nowhere with this SYNOPSIS:
> > >
> > > netstat -r [-AFu] [
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 08:02:54PM +, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 11:49:09AM -0800, Philip Guenther wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 11:33 AM Jason McIntyre wrote:
> > ...
> >
> > > i have to say, i'm getting nowhere with this SYNOPSIS:
> > >
> > > netstat -r [-
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 05:58:47PM +, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 06:21:08PM +0100, Claudio Jeker wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 05:08:15PM +, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> > > On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 07:32:18AM +, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> > > >
> > > > next step is to
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 07:31:26PM +, Jason McIntyre wrote:
>
> anyway, how about this text for ipcomp/ipsec?
> jmc
>
for completeness sake, here's the full diff.
jmc
Index: sbin/ifconfig/ifconfig.8
===
RCS file: /cvs/src/sbin/
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 11:49:09AM -0800, Philip Guenther wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 11:33 AM Jason McIntyre wrote:
> ...
>
> > i have to say, i'm getting nowhere with this SYNOPSIS:
> >
> > netstat -r [-AFu] [-f address_family] [-M core] [-N system]
> > [-p protoc
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 11:33 AM Jason McIntyre wrote:
...
> i have to say, i'm getting nowhere with this SYNOPSIS:
>
> netstat -r [-AFu] [-f address_family] [-M core] [-N system]
> [-p protocol] [-T rtable]
>
> i mean the combination of -r and -p. is it wholly redundant
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 06:35:41PM +, Stuart Henderson wrote:
> On 2022/12/22 17:58, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> > > > flag.
> > > > Just like for IPsec, using the
> > > > -.Fl r
> > > > -flag,
> > > > -.Xr netstat 1
> > > > +.Xr route 8
> > > > +.Cm show
> > > > +command
> > > > displays inform
On 2022/12/22 17:58, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> > > flag.
> > > Just like for IPsec, using the
> > > -.Fl r
> > > -flag,
> > > -.Xr netstat 1
> > > +.Xr route 8
> > > +.Cm show
> > > +command
> > > displays information about IPComp flows.
> >
> > That's a lie. Neither netstat nor route show IPsec
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 06:21:08PM +0100, Claudio Jeker wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 05:08:15PM +, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> > On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 07:32:18AM +, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> > >
> > > next step is to examine Xr. will get round to that when i can.
> > >
> >
> > so i looke
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 05:08:15PM +, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 07:32:18AM +, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> >
> > next step is to examine Xr. will get round to that when i can.
> >
>
> so i looked at where we are using netstat. a lot of the references still
> make sense.
On Thu, Dec 22, 2022 at 07:32:18AM +, Jason McIntyre wrote:
>
> next step is to examine Xr. will get round to that when i can.
>
so i looked at where we are using netstat. a lot of the references still
make sense. diff below is for ones i think we can change. claudio kindly
help me sift thro
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 10:21:16AM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> Claudio Jeker wrote:
>
> > In the old world only netstat could show the routing table. I think this
> > is still the case in FreeBSD for example. We added route show at some
> > point but the documentation was not shared between the
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 05:15:35PM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> Good news, I've got my MUA sorted. Hopefully this fixes the issues with
> the CVS diffs in my reply body.
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 10:09:24PM +, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> > i like the choice of "display" over "print out".
> >
Jason McIntyre wrote:
> i would not remove the Xr. i think if we go ahead with this, we can make
> a separate commit where we point people to route(8) rather than
> netstart(8), but i suspect many pages will both want references to both.
netstat, not netstart, heh
But yes it is true that some l
Good news, I've got my MUA sorted. Hopefully this fixes the issues with
the CVS diffs in my reply body.
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 10:09:24PM +, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> i like the choice of "display" over "print out".
> i don;t like the "related metadata" bit though.
>
> what about just
>
>
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 12:41:42PM -0500, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:
> > So I think route.8 is where we should try to have complete documentation,
> > and once that is done we should change Xr's and other documentation to
> > point at route.8 instead of netstat.8
>
> In an effort to have my intera
> So I think route.8 is where we should try to have complete documentation,
> and once that is done we should change Xr's and other documentation to
> point at route.8 instead of netstat.8
In an effort to have my interactions on this list wind up being helpful
rather than more work for overworked
Claudio Jeker wrote:
> In the old world only netstat could show the routing table. I think this
> is still the case in FreeBSD for example. We added route show at some
> point but the documentation was not shared between the manpages.
> I agree that it is annoying to open up the netstat man page
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 04:48:38PM +, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 10:43:18AM -0500, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:
> > On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 8:27 PM Paul R. Tagliamonte
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Heyya tech@,
> > >
> > > Please keep me on cc, I'm not subscribed
> >
> > Please k
On Wed, Dec 21, 2022 at 10:43:18AM -0500, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 8:27 PM Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:
> >
> > Heyya tech@,
> >
> > Please keep me on cc, I'm not subscribed
>
> Please keep me on cc. The last message wasn't sent to me, so my In-Reply-To
> is going to be
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 8:27 PM Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:
>
> Heyya tech@,
>
> Please keep me on cc, I'm not subscribed
Please keep me on cc. The last message wasn't sent to me, so my In-Reply-To
is going to be wrong. I'm not subscribed to tech@.
>From the web:
> some of the relevant flags are
On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 08:27:14PM -0500, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:
> Heyya tech@,
>
> Please keep me on cc, I'm not subscribed
>
> I've been working on porting some of my linux specific software to
> work on OpenBSD. While working with some routing-specific code,
> I needed to pull up show.c to
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