Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-23 Thread Steve VanDevender
Josh Smift writes: > TC> I do this. I run a Virtual Host at Dreamhost (Although it could be one > TC> a digitalocean, prgmr.com or whatever virtual hosting provider you > TC> prefer) that acts as an inbound and outbound mail relay for the > TC> IMAP/SMTP server I run at home. > > Ja, so this

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-23 Thread Josh Smift
TC> I do this. I run a Virtual Host at Dreamhost (Although it could be one TC> a digitalocean, prgmr.com or whatever virtual hosting provider you TC> prefer) that acts as an inbound and outbound mail relay for the TC> IMAP/SMTP server I run at home. Ja, so this is not entirely unlike what I'm doin

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-23 Thread Yves Dorfsman
On 2015-01-22 19:28, Josh Smift wrote: > > Speaking of this, I recently ran into trouble because I'd set my outgoing > SMTP server on my mail client on my Android phone (K-9 Mail) to be the > mail server I generally use for personal mail, with Postfix doing > authenticted TLS and all; and I found

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-22 Thread Matt Lawrence
On 01/22/2015 08:17 PM, John Stoffel wrote: Its good you got this working. I'm curious what process you're using for outgoing email so you don't get dropped into spam, and what you're doing with reading email from your phone or other IMAP device? My server at home is sitting on a static address

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-22 Thread Ted Cabeen
I do this. I run a Virtual Host at Dreamhost (Although it could be one a digitalocean, prgmr.com or whatever virtual hosting provider you prefer) that acts as an inbound and outbound mail relay for the IMAP/SMTP server I run at home. It's a small postfix instance, with SMTP-Auth configured to aut

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-22 Thread Josh Smift
JS> I'm curious what process you're using for outgoing email so you don't JS> get dropped into spam, and what you're doing with reading email from JS> your phone or other IMAP device? Speaking of this, I recently ran into trouble because I'd set my outgoing SMTP server on my mail client on my Andr

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-22 Thread John Stoffel
Its good you got this working. I'm curious what process you're using for outgoing email so you don't get dropped into spam, and what you're doing with reading email from your phone or other IMAP device? I love using procmail to filter email, and sieve on an imap server always seems like a bit

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-22 Thread David Lang
On Thu, 22 Jan 2015, Matt Lawrence wrote: So, once I managed to get postfix and dovecot dealing with my Maildir inbox correctly, I moved on to the MUA step. Alpine did very strange things, so I dropped it immediately. what problems did you run into with Alpine? David Lang __

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-22 Thread Matt Lawrence
On 01/12/2015 06:09 PM, John Stoffel wrote: In any case, this has been an interesting discussion. Please do a writeup when you're done and share it with us if you can please. I'd love to know your reasoning for various decisions, just so we can all er fnitpick them for you. *grin* Cheers, John

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-12 Thread John Stoffel
> "Matt" == Matt Lawrence writes: Matt> On Mon, 12 Jan 2015, Smith, David wrote: >> According to this RHEL bug: >> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=428996 >> Postfix 2.4 (and below, presumably, including 2.3 which was packaged with >> CentOS 5) used off_t for file offsets, which

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-12 Thread David Lang
On Mon, 12 Jan 2015, Matt Lawrence wrote: On Mon, 12 Jan 2015, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Matt Lawrence wrote: Maybe you need to check if your alpine has the 2GB limit and chokes? If it's 32 bit then I could see internal indexes failing on >2GB files. Postfix b

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-12 Thread Matt Lawrence
On Mon, 12 Jan 2015, Smith, David wrote: According to this RHEL bug: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=428996 Postfix 2.4 (and below, presumably, including 2.3 which was packaged with CentOS 5) used off_t for file offsets, which appears to be a 32-bit value on CentOS 5 32-bit. So tha

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-12 Thread Smith, David
:05 AM To: tech@lists.lopsa.org Subject: Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help On Mon, 12 Jan 2015, Brandon Allbery wrote: > On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Matt Lawrence wrote: > Maybe you need to check if your alpine has the 2GB limit and chokes? > If it's 32 bit then I could see in

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-12 Thread Matt Lawrence
On Mon, 12 Jan 2015, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Matt Lawrence wrote: Maybe you need to check if your alpine has the 2GB limit and chokes? If it's 32 bit then I could see internal indexes failing on >2GB files. Postfix bounced messages that would cause the inbox to

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-12 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Matt Lawrence wrote: > On Mon, 12 Jan 2015, Smith, David wrote: > > What file system are you using? The 2GB limit doesn't sound like anything >> related to Postfix (unless you set Postfix's mailbox_size_limit directive >> years ago then forgot about it). >> > > e

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-12 Thread Matt Lawrence
On Mon, 12 Jan 2015, Smith, David wrote: What file system are you using? The 2GB limit doesn't sound like anything related to Postfix (unless you set Postfix's mailbox_size_limit directive years ago then forgot about it). ext3. I have other files larger than 2GB on the server, so I doubt it

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-12 Thread Smith, David
n bucks or so per mailbox. David Smith -Original Message- From: tech-boun...@lists.lopsa.org [mailto:tech-boun...@lists.lopsa.org] On Behalf Of Matt Lawrence Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 9:13 PM To: tech@lists.lopsa.org Subject: [lopsa-tech] mail server help Ok, I have gotten myself

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-12 Thread Tru Huynh
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 09:12:32PM -0600, Matt Lawrence wrote: ... > I've been running Postfix as a mail server for many years, it's > currently running on a CentOS 5 system. I've also been using pine > (or alpine) to read my email for decades. Well, it appears that > Postfix may have a maximum l

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-12 Thread Simon Lyall
On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Matt Lawrence wrote: Everything lives on the server, I ssh and run (al)pine locally to access my mail spool locally, no POP3 or IMAP in use at all. Current mail storage is mbox. Yeah, really, really old fashioned, the original server was a 386 with 16M or RAM running Debi

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-11 Thread Ted Cabeen
If you're trying to go mbox->maildir with IMAP, (Al)pine is probably the best solution. Non-pine users would probably be more comfortable in mutt, but either will do. Backup your mboxes, then get the new mail infrastructure setup pointing to maildirs. Make sure everything delivers inbound and ou

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-11 Thread Steve VanDevender
Brandon Allbery writes: >On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Matt Lawrence > wrote: > > Ok. I guess my biggest concern is how to migrate my inbox. > Hopefully the Dovecot and/or the Cyrus documentation will give me > some clues. Like I said, I haven't touched a mail se

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-11 Thread Matt Lawrence
On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, John Sellens wrote: I believe that the Pine mail client had IMAP support if not right from the start, very early on. In this discussion, I'm not clear on how Matt is currently accessing his mail (direct from mbox, IMAP, POP), or how the mail is stored on the server (mbox, m

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-11 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:26 PM, David Lang wrote: > I'm guessing that he has Postfix delivering the mail to local mbox files, > and something is compiled for 32 bits (resulting in the 2G file size limit) Yes. And Alpine because Pine is long dead / has not been updated in many years. (And I di

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-11 Thread David Lang
On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, John Sellens wrote: On Sun, 2015/01/11 10:50:53PM -0500, Brandon Allbery wrote: | Definitely overkill. I used to do that; my excuse is that it was my testbed | for a departmental upgrade. For small setups, dovecot makes more sense. | Alpine is still the tool for migration

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-11 Thread John Sellens
On Sun, 2015/01/11 10:50:53PM -0500, Brandon Allbery wrote: | Definitely overkill. I used to do that; my excuse is that it was my testbed | for a departmental upgrade. For small setups, dovecot makes more sense. | Alpine is still the tool for migration from Pine to IMAP, though (and | possibly co

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-11 Thread David Lang
On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Matt Lawrence wrote: On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Matt Lawrence wrote: Ok. I guess my biggest concern is how to migrate my inbox. Hopefully the Dovecot and/or the Cyrus documentation will give me some clues. Like I sai

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-11 Thread Matt Lawrence
On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Matt Lawrence wrote: Ok. I guess my biggest concern is how to migrate my inbox. Hopefully the Dovecot and/or the Cyrus documentation will give me some clues. Like I said, I haven't touched a mail server configura

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-11 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 11:03 PM, Matt Lawrence wrote: > Ok. I guess my biggest concern is how to migrate my inbox. Hopefully the > Dovecot and/or the Cyrus documentation will give me some clues. Like I > said, I haven't touched a mail server configuration in many years and that > was to confi

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-11 Thread Matt Lawrence
On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, David Lang wrote: On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Matt Lawrence wrote: Ok, I have no idea how to use alpine to migrate. You've kind of lost me. configure alpine so that it can both read your existing mail and your IMAP server, select all mail from the folder containing your exist

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-11 Thread Matt Lawrence
On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Brandon Allbery wrote: On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Matt Lawrence wrote: Ok, I have no idea how to use alpine to migrate. You've kind of lost me. Alpine is a rewrite of Pine with IMAP support. So you can access your Pine mailboxes as is, and also an IMAP server,

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-11 Thread David Lang
On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Matt Lawrence wrote: On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Brandon Allbery wrote: Definitely overkill. I used to do that; my excuse is that it was my testbed for a departmental upgrade. For small setups, dovecot makes more sense. Alpine is still the tool for migration from Pine to IMAP, th

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-11 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 10:55 PM, Matt Lawrence wrote: > On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Brandon Allbery wrote: > > Definitely overkill. I used to do that; my excuse is that it was my >> testbed >> for a departmental upgrade. For small setups, dovecot makes more sense. >> Alpine is still the tool for migra

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-11 Thread Matt Lawrence
On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Brandon Allbery wrote: Definitely overkill. I used to do that; my excuse is that it was my testbed for a departmental upgrade. For small setups, dovecot makes more sense. Alpine is still the tool for migration from Pine to IMAP, though (and possibly continuing...). Ok, I h

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-11 Thread Brandon Allbery
On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 10:44 PM, David Lang wrote: > It's almost certinly overkill, but I like to run Cyrus as the IMAP server. Definitely overkill. I used to do that; my excuse is that it was my testbed for a departmental upgrade. For small setups, dovecot makes more sense. Alpine is still th

Re: [lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-11 Thread David Lang
On Sun, 11 Jan 2015, Matt Lawrence wrote: Ok, I have gotten myself in a bit of a situation with my personal email server. I've been running Postfix as a mail server for many years, it's currently running on a CentOS 5 system. I've also been using pine (or alpine) to read my email for decades

[lopsa-tech] mail server help

2015-01-11 Thread Matt Lawrence
Ok, I have gotten myself in a bit of a situation with my personal email server. I've been running Postfix as a mail server for many years, it's currently running on a CentOS 5 system. I've also been using pine (or alpine) to read my email for decades. Well, it appears that Postfix may have a