Re: [lopsa-tech] [lopsa-discuss] CBcrypt - problems with bcrypt and scrypt

2014-03-25 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2014-03-25 at 19:15 +, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) wrote: > > From: Bill Bogstad [mailto:bogs...@pobox.com] > > > > 1. If one uses the full hostname for site identification then the > > generated key pair for wiki.foo.com would be different then > > for forums.foo.com. This seems like it c

Re: [lopsa-tech] [lopsa-discuss] Double-posting (was Re: CBcrypt - problems with bcrypt and scrypt)

2014-03-25 Thread Moose Finklestein
If we are *not* going to combine the lists, I was going to have to follow > up to Jonathan's post, with the question: "Which list does this belong > on?" Because as you said, it's not clear (to me) what the separation is > exactly. > IIRC: The idea was that "discuss" was meant for softer issues,

Re: [lopsa-tech] [lopsa-discuss] CBcrypt - problems with bcrypt and scrypt

2014-03-25 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)
> From: Bill Bogstad [mailto:bogs...@pobox.com] > > 1. If one uses the full hostname for site identification then the > generated key pair for wiki.foo.com would be different then > for forums.foo.com. This seems like it could be annoying depending > on how a site implements site-wide logins. A

Re: [lopsa-tech] [lopsa-discuss] CBcrypt - problems with bcrypt and scrypt

2014-03-25 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)
> From: Jonathan Nicol [mailto:jni...@backnine.org] > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 12:59 PM > > Everyone, pretty-please stop double-posting to both lists. > > Sorry if this is somehow out-of-line, but my inbox is full enough :) It looks like the de-facto decision has been made to move the conve

Re: [lopsa-tech] [lopsa-discuss] Double-posting (was Re: CBcrypt - problems with bcrypt and scrypt)

2014-03-25 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)
> From: discuss-boun...@lists.lopsa.org [mailto:discuss- > boun...@lists.lopsa.org] On Behalf Of Adam Moskowitz > > Jonathan Nicol wrote: > > Everyone, pretty-please stop double-posting to both lists. > > Better yet: Let's use this as an opportunity to combine lopsa-tech and > lopsa-discuss into

Re: [lopsa-tech] [lopsa-discuss] CBcrypt - problems with bcrypt and scrypt

2014-03-25 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)
> From: Paul Graydon [mailto:p...@paulgraydon.co.uk] > > I'll happily confess that cryptography is a field I haven't spent much time > looking at, and I might also be misinterpreting what you're saying, but it > seems odd to be generating a keypair based one two pieces of publicly > identifiable i

[lopsa-tech] Double-posting (was Re: CBcrypt - problems with bcrypt and scrypt)

2014-03-25 Thread Adam Moskowitz
Jonathan Nicol wrote: > Everyone, pretty-please stop double-posting to both lists. Better yet: Let's use this as an opportunity to combine lopsa-tech and lopsa-discuss into a single mailing list. Very few people seem to know (or understand or respect) the difference between the two lists, and the

Re: [lopsa-tech] [lopsa-discuss] CBcrypt - problems with bcrypt and scrypt

2014-03-25 Thread Bill Bogstad
On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) wrote: > If you login to servers that utilize bcrypt, scrypt, pbkdf2, etc, to salt & > stretch your password for storage in a backend database, then you are > vulnerable to phishing attacks, and cross-site attacks if you repeat > passwor

Re: [lopsa-tech] [lopsa-discuss] CBcrypt - problems with bcrypt and scrypt

2014-03-25 Thread Chase Hoffman
How does this compare to Steve Gibson's SQRL? Sent from my iPhone On Mar 24, 2014, at 9:10 PM, "Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)" < lop...@nedharvey.com> wrote: If you login to servers that utilize bcrypt, scrypt, pbkdf2, etc, to salt & stretch your password for storage in a backend database, then y

Re: [lopsa-tech] [lopsa-discuss] CBcrypt - problems with bcrypt and scrypt

2014-03-25 Thread Jonathan Nicol
Everyone, pretty-please stop double-posting to both lists. Sorry if this is somehow out-of-line, but my inbox is full enough :) thanks, Jonathan ___ Tech mailing list Tech@lists.lopsa.org https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tech This

Re: [lopsa-tech] [lopsa-discuss] CBcrypt - problems with bcrypt and scrypt

2014-03-25 Thread Paul Graydon
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 10:58:32AM +, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) wrote: > > From: Chase Hoffman [mailto:driftpeas...@driftpeasant.org] > > > > How does this compare to Steve Gibson's SQRL? > > Well, there's basically no similarity. They're both alternatives to sending > your password to a s

Re: [lopsa-tech] Macs and vSphere

2014-03-25 Thread Jonathan
On 25/03/14 14:42, Gilbert Wilson wrote: Your best bet at this point in time is to use the current production Mac Mini as a test platform for your requirements. Hi. Thanks for your feedback. We have done some limited testing on an old Mac Mini. The limitation we're up against is memory (Ma

Re: [lopsa-tech] Macs and vSphere

2014-03-25 Thread Edmund White
The OWC Helios Expansion enclosure seems to be the cleanest way to obtain PCIe expandability on the Mac platform: http://eshop.macsales.com/shop/Thunderbolt/PCIe_Chassis/Mercury_Helios/ -- Edmund White From: Gilbert Wilson mailto:gilb...@watchhouse.org>> Date: Tuesday, March 25, 2014 at 9:42 AM

Re: [lopsa-tech] Macs and vSphere

2014-03-25 Thread Gilbert Wilson
On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 6:03 AM, Stephen Potter wrote: > On 3/25/2014 7:57 AM, Jonathan wrote: > >> I realise that no currently-produced Apple kit is on the vSphere HCL. My >> question is whether you have any experience of the new Mac Pro with >> vSphere, including multiple NICs and FC connecti

Re: [lopsa-tech] Macs and vSphere

2014-03-25 Thread Stephen Potter
On 3/25/2014 7:57 AM, Jonathan wrote: I realise that no currently-produced Apple kit is on the vSphere HCL. My question is whether you have any experience of the new Mac Pro with vSphere, including multiple NICs and FC connections. The response from our local suppliers has been "let us know h

[lopsa-tech] Macs and vSphere

2014-03-25 Thread Jonathan
Hi At work, we're a big VMware site, running the usual mix of *nix, Windows, and some Novell(!) servers. Our farm is a stretched cluster (10 miles separation) with sync replicating storage. We wish to add OS X support to our server farm. Due to licensing, we need to add Apple hardware. Ou

Re: [lopsa-tech] [lopsa-discuss] CBcrypt - problems with bcrypt and scrypt

2014-03-25 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)
> From: Chase Hoffman [mailto:driftpeas...@driftpeasant.org] > > How does this compare to Steve Gibson's SQRL? Well, there's basically no similarity. They're both alternatives to sending your password to a server, and the similarity ends there. In CBcrypt, the servername, username, and passwor

Re: [lopsa-tech] CBcrypt - problems with bcrypt and scrypt

2014-03-25 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)
> From: tech-boun...@lists.lopsa.org [mailto:tech-boun...@lists.lopsa.org] > On Behalf Of Luke S. Crawford > > what is the advantage of your scheme over traditional public key auth? > (e.g. openssh public keys) If you generate an ssh key, you have to keep it with you. If you lose it, you cannot