Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread Phillip Steinbachs
On Fri, 25 Jan 2013, Craig Cook wrote: We have around 200TB of dev/QA storage that is across 3 SAN's. (EMC VMAX and IBM XIV's) Servers are AIX, Solaris and VMware. We are looking to replace it with cheaper storage. I would be interested in build-your-own-NAS solutions, but I am not sure wh

Re: [lopsa-tech] AD Mobile Users

2013-01-25 Thread Phil Pennock
On 2013-01-24 at 21:51 +, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) wrote: > Could it be? Maybe it's actually possible to safely deploy an AD > server into a DMZ or on the WAN, which their clients use for things > like passwords resets and stuff? Literally available on the public > internet? I certainly ha

Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread John Clear
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:45:39AM -0600, Dave Caplinger wrote: > > Otherwise, back to the original topic -- another possible product > to consider is Oracle's Sun ZFS Storage Appliance 74xx line. It's > "relatively" inexpensive compared to EMC Clariion or Isilon, NetApp, > or Dell Compellent or

Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread Ray Van Dolson
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 11:45:39AM -0600, Dave Caplinger wrote: > On Jan 25, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Andrew Hume wrote: > > > we have tried the backblaze route (we built 5) and would neither do it > > again nor advise anyone to do teh same. > > Since you seem to have specific experience, can you shar

Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread Jonathan
Hi, For really cheap Tier 3 SAN storage we have used a UK supplier of systems built on Open-E http://www.open-e.com/partners/certified-systems/ For Tier 2 we have used Nexsan http://www.nexsan.com/ SATABoys, SATABeasts and E-Series and found their systems and support to be excellent For Tie

Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread Dave Caplinger
On Jan 25, 2013, at 10:59 AM, Andrew Hume wrote: > we have tried the backblaze route (we built 5) and would neither do it > again nor advise anyone to do teh same. Since you seem to have specific experience, can you share any more details on why you don't recommend it? Otherwise, back to the o

Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread David Blank-Edelman
Hi Andrew- On Jan 25, 2013, at 11:59 AM, Andrew Hume wrote: > we have tried the backblaze route (we built 5) and would neither do it > again nor advise anyone to do teh same. I'm always interested in learning from your experiences and this is a bit of a tease. Would you be willing to say a bit

Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread John Stoffel
isilon is NAS, they don't (currently as I understand it) have SAN options. But for NAS, it certainly does look really really nice. Andrew> have you looked at isilon? Andrew> On Jan 25, 2013, at 7:07 AM, Craig Cook wrote: >> We have around 200TB of dev/QA storage that is across 3 SAN's. (EMC V

Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread John Stoffel
Craig> We have around 200TB of dev/QA storage that is across 3 Craig> SAN's. (EMC VMAX and IBM XIV's) Servers are AIX, Solaris and Craig> VMware. Is this NFS storage, or do you export LUNs to your servers? What are you goals? Craig> We are looking to replace it with cheaper storage. What about

Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread Craig Cook
> I think the real crux of the matter is how fast you need it to be.  This is a key question.  The short answer is "I don't know".  We have many over engineered systems here.  I know we don't need the Ferrari type systems that we currently have.  Not sure what "good enough" looks like though.

Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread Adam Levin
We have Dell Compellent (we had them before Dell) in house as well as Isilon. The Compellent hardware is more like a standard two-controller system (though they do virtual ports so it's a slight step up from active/passive). It's comparable to the EMC Clariion type of array in that sense, but the

Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread Smith, David
If you really want to get into DIY, this looks like a fun place to start: http://www.heartlandcomputers.com/chenbro-rm91250-black-extended-atx-ceb-rackmount-9u-chassis-with-1620w-psu/ It's just what it sounds like - an empty 9U rackmount chassis, with fifty drive bays. Add your own motherboard, f

Re: [lopsa-tech] AD Mobile Users

2013-01-25 Thread Will Dennis
Hi Edward, I know the Cisco VPN Client that we use (and its successor, Cisco AnyConnect) can be installed in a mode that launches the VPN client before the Windows login screen comes up. (The user can decline the VPN connection if desired.) This "VPN-before-login" functionality would allow the

Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread Andrew Hume
have you looked at isilon? On Jan 25, 2013, at 7:07 AM, Craig Cook wrote: > We have around 200TB of dev/QA storage that is across 3 SAN's. (EMC VMAX and > IBM XIV's) > > Servers are AIX, Solaris and VMware. > > We are looking to replace it with cheaper storage. > > I would be interested in bu

Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread Andrew Hume
we have tried the backblaze route (we built 5) and would neither do it again nor advise anyone to do teh same. if i were to offer advice (and you really have not supplied enough details), i believe that most of the issues in a SAN are 1) cheap reliable attachment of disks 2) balancing of disk to (

Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread Gary Pitman
We were looking at EMC's Isilon over the Summer. It seemed to be a good next step above "roll your own" cost wise and had some pretty good features. We are pretty heavily invested in netapp though and trying to not sprawl. Negotiations continue... __

Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread Ski Kacoroski
Craig, I use equallogix and like it, but it can be expensive. You may want to look at Silicon Mechanics ZFS based storage at: http://www.siliconmechanics.com/i43372/zstax-storage-solutions-nexentastor.php as it would be cheaper and may meet your needs. If you really want to roll your own c

Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread Michael Ryder
Since you mention "build-your-own" -- have you seen the projects designed by Backblaze? http://blog.backblaze.com/2011/07/20/petabytes-on-a-budget-v2-0revealing-more-secrets/ 135TB for ~$7,500 Scroll down to the bottom of the posting and you'll see a breakdown of all the parts and costs. Might

Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread Jack Coats
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 8:07 AM, Craig Cook wrote: > We have around 200TB of dev/QA storage that is across 3 SAN's. (EMC VMAX and > IBM XIV's) > > Servers are AIX, Solaris and VMware. > > We are looking to replace it with cheaper storage. > > I would be interested in build-your-own-NAS solutions,

Re: [lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread Matt Simmons
I've heard good things about Dell's Compellent and Equallogic lines. I think the real crux of the matter is how fast you need it to be. --Matt On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 9:07 AM, Craig Cook wrote: > We have around 200TB of dev/QA storage that is across 3 SAN's. (EMC VMAX > and IBM XIV's) > > Serve

[lopsa-tech] What to use for 200TB of Dev/QA storage?

2013-01-25 Thread Craig Cook
We have around 200TB of dev/QA storage that is across 3 SAN's. (EMC VMAX and IBM XIV's) Servers are AIX, Solaris and VMware. We are looking to replace it with cheaper storage. I would be interested in build-your-own-NAS solutions, but I am not sure what to start looking at. (Netapp is too ex

[lopsa-tech] AD Mobile Users

2013-01-25 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)
I have my own ideas, but I'm not the only person in the organization, so I want to ping you guys and see what you think, before I raise certain subjects with the other IT folks. You have an AD organization, and you need to support some users who work almost exclusively remotely. You were able

[lopsa-tech] AD Mobile Users

2013-01-25 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (lopser)
I have my own ideas, but I'm not the only person in the organization, so I want to ping you guys and see what you think, before I raise certain subjects with the other IT folks. You have an AD organization, and you need to support some users who work almost exclusively remotely. You were able