I believe this has escalated far more than anticipated, hasn't it Geoff? :-D
I believe we are all basically in sync in what's been discussed here
(leaving aside the fw comparisons and flame wars! :-))
I agree that Tapestry still need to address some core issues! Absolutely
priority! That's what e
As for JSF tool support, i've created a screencast to show you how jdeveloper
works:
http://www.it-eye.nl/weblog/2006/04/26/ide-productivity-for-jsf-a-screencast/
As you can see in the movie, it goes a lot further than dreamweaver.
Regards,
Andrej
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> On 4/26/06, James Carman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That's what Trails/Cognition are trying to do, though, make Tapestry more
> > RAD.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mário Lopes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent
have their merits.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mário Lopes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:15 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: [OT] OMG! A dynamic div component in JSF
>
> Well, point being that saying Rails is inferior to Tapestry (o
I would have to agree. They both have their merits.
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From: Mário Lopes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:15 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: [OT] OMG! A dynamic div component in JSF
Well, point being that saying Rails is inferior to
From: Mário Lopes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:10 PM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: [OT] OMG! A dynamic div component in JSF
>
> I've used Ruby on Rails for professional development and I'm now
> building a CRM with Tapestry+Tacos.
>
That's what Trails/Cognition are trying to do, though, make Tapestry more
RAD.
-Original Message-
From: Mário Lopes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 3:10 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: [OT] OMG! A dynamic div component in JSF
I've used Ruby on
I've used Ruby on Rails for professional development and I'm now
building a CRM with Tapestry+Tacos.
Trust me, Tapestry's learning curve is way more steep than Rails' (and
I develop in Java for a long time but never touched Ruby before) and
you write the same stuff with 5 times more code than the
not going to get into any Ruby vs. Java flame wars here - I have not checked out
Ruby enough to make a sound judgement of 'inferiority'. does it have some great
features - of course. it is a figure of speech. every technology has it's
purpose and typically results because of a need. each is use
Steve Motola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That is why Visual Basic caught on, and things like PHP and Ruby are exploding.
Do most of us think these are all inferior technologies? Yes.
What makes you think that Ruby (on Rails), for example is an inferior
technology ? I have looked at it, not as m
then the application mockup can be demoed to customer and modified
>> immediately if necessary;
>>
>>
>>
>> The nice thing about this stage is that DW mockup demonstrates behavior of
>> the application as well as its look, and all that without writing
and there has
> been many mentions here, of a need for tools to
> crank out Tapestry apps'
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Geoff Hopson"
> To: "Tapestry users"
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [OT] OMG! A
the story made it to TSS
http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=40113
Geoff
On 4/25/06, Geoff Longman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> in Tapestry:
>
>
>
>
> In JSF:
>
> http://www.it-eye.nl/weblog/2006/04/25/creating-a-jsf-div-component/
>
> Yikes!
>
> Geoff
>
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>
> John Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: yes, I agree, and there has
> been many mentions here, of a need for tools to
> crank out Tapestry apps'
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Geoff Hopson"
> To: "Tapestry users"
> Se
out Tapestry apps'
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Hopson"
> To: "Tapestry users"
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [OT] OMG! A dynamic div component in JSF
>
>
> The authro responds...
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> http:
May we be truly thankful for the plugins we are about to receive.
-Original Message-
From: Brian K. Wallace [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 12:02 PM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: [OT] OMG! A dynamic div component in JSF
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ase! :-)
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> -Original Message-
> From: Hugo Palma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:54 AM
> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: [OT] OMG! A dynamic div component in JSF
>
> Are you trying to say that all the efforts i'm putting in the Tapestry
>
No no no! Keep working on it, please! :-)
-Original Message-
From: Hugo Palma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 11:54 AM
To: Tapestry users
Subject: Re: [OT] OMG! A dynamic div component in JSF
Are you trying to say that all the efforts i'm putting i
#x27;
>
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "Geoff Hopson"
> To: "Tapestry users"
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [OT] OMG! A dynamic div component in JSF
>
>
> The authro responds...
>
> http://www.it-eye.nl/
off Hopson"
To: "Tapestry users"
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] OMG! A dynamic div component in JSF
The authro responds...
http://www.it-eye.nl/weblog/2006/04/26/jsf-productivity/
On 25/04/06, Geoff Longman wrote:
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> in Tapestry:
>
>
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> To: Tapestry users
> Subject: Re: [OT] OMG! A dynamic div component in JSF
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> yes, I agree, and there has been many mentions here, of a need for tools
> to
> crank out Tapestry apps'
>
>
>
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MG! A dynamic div component in JSF
yes, I agree, and there has been many mentions here, of a need for tools to
crank out Tapestry apps'
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>A decent eCom application based on simple plugable components (hmm???)
>developed and maintained on the cheap offshore, could blow away some of
>these bloated eCom frameworks. If it hasn't happend yet, it will in a year
>or so I'd guess, and then it will be game over for a lot of consultants with
yes, I agree, and there has been many mentions here, of a need for tools to
crank out Tapestry apps'
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From: "Geoff Hopson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tapestry users"
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [OT] OMG! A dyn
The authro responds...
http://www.it-eye.nl/weblog/2006/04/26/jsf-productivity/
On 25/04/06, Geoff Longman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> in Tapestry:
>
>
>
>
> In JSF:
>
> http://www.it-eye.nl/weblog/2006/04/25/creating-a-jsf-div-component/
>
> Yikes!
>
> Geoff
>
> --
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rn architecture.
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From: "Konstantin Ignatyev" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Tapestry users"
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [OT] OMG! A dynamic div component in JS
Make things complicated == improve consulting revenue stream
Pedro Viegas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Abstraction layers on top of
abstraction layers...
They have built so many of them that they have abstracted themselfs from the
reality... the majoraty of JSF users just want to build HTML pages!
Abstraction layers on top of abstraction layers...
They have built so many of them that they have abstracted themselfs from the
reality... the majoraty of JSF users just want to build HTML pages! So let's
make it totally complicated for them :-D
Good old tapestry! :-D
On 4/25/06, Brian K. Wal
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Geoff Longman wrote:
> in Tapestry:
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>
>
>
> In JSF:
>
> http://www.it-eye.nl/weblog/2006/04/25/creating-a-jsf-div-component/
>
> Yikes!
>
> Geoff
>
> --
> The Spindle guy. http://spindle.sf.net
> Blog: http://jroller.com/page
Geoff Longman wrote:
>in Tapestry:
>
>
>
>
>In JSF:
>
>http://www.it-eye.nl/weblog/2006/04/25/creating-a-jsf-div-component/
>
>Yikes!
>
>
ROTFL
>Geoff
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