Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Bernard Hemmings
That's what I do Stephen I often use Most of the people who message me are blind with older phones and so don't use those characters while the 2 sighted people that message me hate technology and are not going to go looking for those graphic characters on their phones Bernard Hemmings email:

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Bernard Hemmings
I use the old client that supports attachments and that when you open a message it is read. Bernard Hemmings email: bern...@bhemmings.net Skype: Bernard Hemmings Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net Home: 61-02-95841280 Mobile: 61-0412177799 -

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Caleb Eee
Hi, but there's noway you can save attachments with this new client. -Original message- From: Allan Sent: 05/09/2011, 10:46 PM To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table hi Bernard, > When you open a message talks just says browser. when

Re: [Talks] Facebook on my nokia E71

2011-09-05 Thread Michelle McQuigge
Jen, I use an E71 as well and usually just surf to the mobile facebook URL when out and about: M.facebook.com At that point you can comment on statuses, post updates of your own, send messages, effectively do anything you might expect. There is one exception, of course, and that's tag people in

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Burke
Well said Christopher. -Original message- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: 05/09/2011, 11:56 pm To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table I'm curious, how do you know you've never received an emoticon in a text message? I'm not sure Talks

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Christopher Chaltain
I'm curious, how do you know you've never received an emoticon in a text message? I'm not sure Talks will indicate this to you on every phone or with every SMS client. I'd never just pick an emoticon at random, but there are other ways to send them. As Stephen says you can just use something like

Re: [Talks] E7 and Talks

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Burke
I know Maurice on the list, he may not be reading mail at present but he cannot access it either with E7. - Original Message - From: "Allan" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 9:56 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] E7 and Talks hi Eleanor, No way, I cannot read anythin

Re: [Talks] E7 and Talks

2011-09-05 Thread Allan
hi Eleanor, > No way, I cannot read anything Allan. I have explored the screen by touch > too and though it says those things like backward > forward next link etc nothing happens which I touoch them. i will find a customer's e7 to try and report back soon. in the meantime, anyone else having

Re: [Talks] E7 and Talks

2011-09-05 Thread Allan
hi, i guess Eleanor problem is different compare to E6, because the E6 you having is symbian anna and eleanor's e7 still using pr1.1. -- Allan (WKF) - Original Message - From: "Ömer Yesiltas" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 04:42 Subject: Re: [Talks] E7 and

Re: [Talks] E7 and Talks

2011-09-05 Thread Ömer Yesiltas
Hello, I have symbian anna fw 2.214 on my e6 and the email and web is inaccessible with talks. However, Mobilespeak reads the device update screen all. I guess it should be same on e7. www.cepdenizi.net - Original Message - From: "Eleanor Burke" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday,

Re: [Talks] E7 and Talks

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Burke
No way, I cannot read anything Allan. I have explored the screen by touch too and though it says those things like backward forward next link etc nothing happens which I touoch them. - Original Message - From: "Allan" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 9:22 PM

Re: [Talks] E7 and Talks

2011-09-05 Thread Allan
hi Eleanor, > When I want to access the Internet Talks simply says Browser. I have tried > pressing Talks and volume down twice but no joy. by right when you launch a webpage, you can just press downArrow (vol down) to read line-by-line. if you explore the screen, you will have some virtual co

Re: [Talks] E7 and Talks

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Burke
It is PR1.1 and the last release was either March or May. I say this because the figure 3 and then the figure 5 for custom release. - Original Message - From: "Allan" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] E7 and Talks hi Eleanor, I

Re: [Talks] E7 and Talks

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Burke
No I have not updated because it is a Vodafone and it is telling me that no updates are available. When I want to access the Internet Talks simply says Browser. I have tried pressing Talks and volume down twice but no joy.-Original message- From: Allan Sent: 05/09/2011, 8:53 pm To: Ta

Re: [Talks] E7 and Talks

2011-09-05 Thread Allan
hi Eleanor, > I cannot use the Internet with my E7 though I can access my e-mails without > any difficulty. Can someone confirm for me if this is > the current situation with the E7 or alternatively is there something I can > do using the keys or touch screen to access the > Internet with Talk

[Talks] E7 and Talks

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Burke
I cannot use the Internet with my E7 though I can access my e-mails without any difficulty. Can someone confirm for me if this is the current situation with the E7 or alternatively is there something I can do using the keys or touch screen to access the Internet with Talks? __

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Burke
I take your point though I do not send in every text. I am also selective about the ones I send and to whom. I have some vision and can see that each has a yellow background and when one is highlighted it is blue. Then I can also see when it moves down to the next line. As for if someone told me

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Stephen Giggar
I've found people are just fine if you put the word smile, chuckle, frown etc... in your messages. So the emoticons may be nice but the words are just as good. I tell people when they send me stuff to use the words in place of typing any emoticons! Signed: Stephen Giggar Skype: dr-phone. Hard

[Talks] Facebook on my nokia E71

2011-09-05 Thread Jen Colley
Hi, I have activated facebook mobile on my nokia E71 and have checked notifications but am wondering can I write on someone's wall and see other people's statuses or can I just send text messages to facebook. Also, can you tag someone in a status using your phone and if so, how do you do thi

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Burke
Can anyone tell me please how I can access Internet on E7. I can access the e-mails as discussed with Talks key followed by volume down twice. Thank you. -Original message- From: Denise Thompson Sent: 05/09/2011, 4:57 pm To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] Some more observations

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Bernard Hemmings
Well I've never received a text message containing one of these characters. How would you know which one you are sending if talks does not describe them you could send the wrong one in a given context that could be offensive as I believe there is one for just about every human emotion . If some

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Denise Thompson
I know. It works well. I just became aware of how to use the phones email client myself. So I guess it boils down to this. Learn how to use it and continue to enjoy another facit of your phone or be stubborn and don't get emial on your phone. The method works fine. Denise At 08:49 AM 9/5/2011,

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Bernard Hemmings
That's good each for their own. Bernard Hemmings email: bern...@bhemmings.net Skype: Bernard Hemmings Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net Home: 61-02-95841280 Mobile: 61-0412177799 - Original Message - From: "Eleanor Burke" To: "Talks Ma

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Burke
Why not? It is excellent. I have been reading all these e-mails now with my updates and have got used to pressing Talks and volume down twice. It is the way to go if we do not accept the new method which Talks has developed then how can we expect the developers to listen to our input. -Origi

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Bernard Hemmings
Thanks but no thanks. Bernard Hemmings email: bern...@bhemmings.net Skype: Bernard Hemmings Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net Home: 61-02-95841280 Mobile: 61-0412177799 - Original Message - From: "Allan" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent:

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Burke
Sighted people like them and I send sighted people text messages so would like to know these emoticons. -Original message- From: Bernard Hemmings Sent: 05/09/2011, 4:13 pm To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table Well I would rather use

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Burke
Yes indeed thanks to you Allan. I have updated the firmware on E72 and on E5 and can report that I can access internet and e-mail on both phones. It is a bit fiddley having to press Talks key and volume down twice but works perfectly. After pressing this combination talks says page has no links

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Bernard Hemmings
Well I would rather use the old firmware and do without the smilies I doubt they will ever be important. Bernard Hemmings email: bern...@bhemmings.net Skype: Bernard Hemmings Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net Home: 61-02-95841280 Mobile: 61-04121

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Allan
hi Bernard, > When you open a message talks just says browser. when you hear talks says "browser" you should press talks+downArrow to start reading the email. this will convert the email to plain text version and you can use arrow up/down to read line-by-line. -- Allan (WKF) ___

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Allan
hi Bernard, > I don't think the smiley table is in the older firmware. yes, the smilies table only introduce in firmware 071.004. is a bonus given by nokia to some s60 9.3 devices such as e72, e52 and etc. -- Allan (WKF) ___ Talks mailing list Tal

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Bernard Hemmings
If you want the email client to work properly then it's 51.018 From time to time I get a prompt to update the email software which I ignore as I learned with my other handset the update will wreck it as far as accessibility goes. Bernard Hemmings email: bern...@bhemmings.net Skype: Bernard He

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Bernard Hemmings
I don't think the smiley table is in the older firmware. Bernard Hemmings email: bern...@bhemmings.net Skype: Bernard Hemmings Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net Home: 61-02-95841280 Mobile: 61-0412177799 - Original Message - From: "Allan

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Bernard Hemmings
I'm sure other e72 owners will tell you their problems with the email client. To put it simply when running the latest firmware and talks or for that matter mobilespeak the email client is just not accessible. When you open a message talks just says browser. Not even the subject or sender is s

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Burke
Can someone please tell me the latest firmware on e72 that works fully with Talks? - Original Message - From: "Bernard Hemmings" To: "Talks Mailing List" Sent: Monday, September 05, 2011 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table I think I will stay w

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Bernard Hemmings
In coming or new messages are just not spoken there is a work around of choosing reply this will read some messages. To see the difference you would need a handset running the latest firmware and another running the version 51.018 I don't use the latest talks for the first time ever as it is

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Allan
hi Bernard, > softkey 1 does the same thin well it switches between 1 / 1 and 1 / 2 but soft key1 does not switch the mode from smilies table to symbols table, you must use the "chr" key to do so. soft key1 only will change from page 1 to page 2 or move back to page 1. -- Allan (WKF) __

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Bernard Hemmings
softkey 1 does the same thin well it switches between 1 / 1 and 1 / 2 Bernard Hemmings email: bern...@bhemmings.net Skype: Bernard Hemmings Ftp server email: ser...@bhemmings.net ftp server address: livingaudio.bhemmings.net Home: 61-02-95841280 Mobile: 61-0412177799 - Original Message -

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Marcus Groeber
Hi Bernard, thanks for your feedback. message or document. I think making the email client in the latest firmware accessible is going to be one hell of a challenge. Currently it has stumped both talks and mobilespeak developers. Could you please clarify the remain problems with the e-mail cli

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Allan
hi Eleanor, thanks. but i found the "chr" key, is the third from the left on the bottom row. this key switch between smilies table and symbols table. just press the same key and it will switch to symbols table from the smilies table. -- Allan (WKF) - Original Message - From: "Elea

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Burke
Bottom right on the qwerty. -Original Message- From: Allan Sent: 05/09/2011, 1:40 pm To: Talks Mailing List Subject: Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table hi Marcus, > "On my e72 you can get the symbol table working correctly, when firstly > pressing [Edit] key an

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Eleanor Burke
The same is the case with E5. I would love to use the moticons but Talks does not speak them and if I insert one Talks says I. If I knew the moticons from left to right and line by line then I could use them. Anyone able to help on this one please? -Original Message- From: Marcus Groeber

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Bernard Hemmings
I think I will stay with the old firmware on the e72-2 I am using but I will keep your post and check it against the other updated e72-2 handset. The new browser in the updated firmware is not as accessible as the older browser . The thing about the symbol table in the updated firmware when it

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Allan
sorry Marcus and all, after i did a test again, actually pressing the "chr" key once will bring up the smilies table, and pressing the "chr" key once more will switch to the symbol table. i test with E72-1 with firmware 071.004. -- Allan (WKF) - Original Message - From: "Marcus Gro

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Allan
hi, ignore my previous message, i found the trick. first, press the "chr" key to launch the smilies table. second, press "edit" key and follow by "chr" key, it will switch to the symbol table. third, press "edit" and "chr" key again will switch back to the smilies table. so my question is, wi

Re: [Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Allan
hi Marcus, > "On my e72 you can get the symbol table working correctly, when firstly > pressing [Edit] key and [Chr] secondly. Then all > characters will be read correctly." wich key is "chr" key? i know wich is the "edit" key. -- Allan (WKF) ___

[Talks] Some more observations on the E72 symbol table

2011-09-05 Thread Marcus Groeber
Hi all, a while ago, I experimented a bit with the symbol table on the E72 and perhaps come across a detail that could explain why some people here think it doesn't work for them, while it works for others (all with TALKS 5.21): On the E72 with firmware 71, the symbol table indeed says "1 slas