Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Extra details for postboxes

2010-08-05 Thread Tobias Knerr
has originally been defined for clocks: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dclock#Support Tobias Knerr ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Extra details for postboxes

2010-08-05 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 05/08/2010 18:52, vclaw wrote: > On 05/08/2010 17:03, Tobias Knerr wrote: >> I suggest a more generic approach for the mounting/anchor information - >> a key like this could be used for lots of different features, such as >> post boxes, clocks, waste bins or vending machine

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] collection/street relation: which one to use?

2010-08-19 Thread Tobias Knerr
ed again too soon? No, you bring up JOSM's search box, type "addr:street"=TheStreetName and change them all at once. Tobias Knerr ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] collection/street relation: which one to use?

2010-08-19 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 19.08.2010 17:09, Simone Saviolo wrote: > 2010/8/19 Tobias Knerr : >> On 19.08.2010 16:27, Simone Saviolo wrote: >>> So, if the name of a street is changed for whatever reason, I have to >>> go through the, maybe, several hundreds of house numbers on that way, &g

Re: [Tagging] [OSM-talk] collection/street relation: which one to use?

2010-08-19 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 19.08.2010 18:28, Tom Chance wrote: > On 19 August 2010 16:54, Tobias Knerr <mailto:o...@tobias-knerr.de>> wrote: > > Basic address editing, however, requires more knowledge if implemented > using relations - which is bad, because editing addresses is one of the &

Re: [Tagging] sidewalks

2010-08-26 Thread Tobias Knerr
A and C to make it easier to distinguish in software? Tobias Knerr ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Semicolons? (was Re: RFC: generator:* (for power=generator features))

2010-08-27 Thread Tobias Knerr
ect #1), there is an atm (object #2), and object #2 is /within/ object #1. I think that creating an atm node within a bank polygon perfectly represents this situation. Tobias Knerr ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] sidewalks

2010-08-31 Thread Tobias Knerr
highway=footway/path just as with sidewalks, but a different subtag (footway=crossing or path=crossing instead of footway=sidewalk) for the crossing ways. Maybe you or someone else can suggest a better naming - I care about being able to distinguish the crossing wa

Re: [Tagging] Waterway direction

2010-08-31 Thread Tobias Knerr
iki and I believe that all waterways around me have consistently been created using that convention. Tobias Knerr ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-06 Thread Tobias Knerr
he intention of unsuspecting mappers who used natural=tree without looking up a definition - because the meaning seemed completely obvious to them. A failure to adapt the wiki definition to majority use by removing the "lone or significant" limitation would start an eternal struggle against t

Re: [Tagging] tagging single trees

2010-09-10 Thread Tobias Knerr
out even an attempt to reach consensus that this mass edit should be performed. For the record, I think that the denotation=cluster tag is a bad idea. It's vague, overlaps with the other values of denotation and doesn't add any information that wasn't there before. Tobias Knerr [1

Re: [Tagging] trees and waterways

2010-09-12 Thread Tobias Knerr
g the definition more attractive than trying to increase acceptance of the definition. If the definition itself is considered decent, however, educating mappers and fixing existing errors can be a more appealing option. Tobias Knerr ___ Tagging

Re: [Tagging] trees and waterways

2010-09-13 Thread Tobias Knerr
oon as applications using the tag become more widespread, people will notice the (then visible) errors and start to correct them. Tobias Knerr * Or any other application that behaves wrong, of course. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] RFC: more barrier types

2010-09-20 Thread Tobias Knerr
ersial than the rest, or at least for different reasons - , so I wonder why it's in the same proposal. I don't think I'll map control devices anytime soon (or ever), though, so I'm going to just ignore that section. Tobias Knerr

Re: [Tagging] new Key proposal: landcover

2010-10-07 Thread Tobias Knerr
e surface key, though - such as trees. So maybe a new key would be useful anyway, but just for those things that aren't covered by surface? Generally, I'd very much appreciate a key that only describes what's there, with nothing else (such as what's supposed to be

Re: [Tagging] "new" highway tag for small and informal footpaths; trail

2010-10-22 Thread Tobias Knerr
intained and paved ways. Because the difference between ways that would currently be tagged as a "path" can be very significant, it makes sense to split small informal footpaths into their own highway category. Tobias Knerr ___ Tagging ma

Re: [Tagging] Announce: New #osm-tagging dedicated IRC chat on oftc.net

2010-10-24 Thread Tobias Knerr
a burden. If it's one of the tagging issues that need extended discussion, that discussion should take place where others can participate asynchronously and where the results are more permanently available. Tobias Knerr ___ Tagging ma

Re: [Tagging] url vs. website

2010-11-03 Thread Tobias Knerr
should only replace "url" for those cases where the URL is the official website for the tagged feature. Similarly, the "wikipedia" key should partially replace "url", for those cases where the URL is a Wikipedia link, and "image" should be used for URLs of

Re: [Tagging] RFC: new key Landcover

2010-11-16 Thread Tobias Knerr
ly be used for routing, but could reasonably be drawn as a linear way. Would the same surface material on the basketball court next to it (clearly an area, not linear) be tagged differently? Tobias Knerr ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstre

Re: [Tagging] Call for German, French, Russian & Japanese updates for changed tag

2010-11-22 Thread Tobias Knerr
enerator (and that's what the original version of the English page did, and all translations still do) would just ensure that the new tag cannot gain traction, no matter whether it's better than the old one or not. Tobias Knerr ___ Tag

Re: [Tagging] Ultimate list of approved keys

2011-01-02 Thread Tobias Knerr
t;language". This process means that once popular applications actually use some set of tags, usage will - with few exceptions - gradually become less varied. And this effect will only become more pronounced with the current popularization of editor presets. Tobias Knerr _

Re: [Tagging] Mapping gentle slopes?

2011-01-04 Thread Tobias Knerr
an also use positive or negative percentages as values to more precisely indicate the way's steepness. Tobias Knerr [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:incline ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Site Relation

2011-02-02 Thread Tobias Knerr
well-explored algorithmic task. I can support the proposal if (and only if) it is made clear that site relations are only to be used where simpler tools aren't sufficient. Tobias Knerr ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] levels and min_level (was Underground / hovering buildings)

2011-02-18 Thread Tobias Knerr
but also things like names (it's not entirely uncommon for building parts to have names of their own that are not the same as the name of the entire building). Tobias Knerr ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

[Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - Tree rows

2011-02-24 Thread Tobias Knerr
Please voice your opinion in the vote on the "Tree rows" proposal: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Tree_rows natural=tree_row, used on a way, describes a line of trees. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - (Key:designation)

2011-03-02 Thread Tobias Knerr
and 2), but aren't quite the same as 3). Apparently, designation has the same purpose as 3), providing a more human-readable tagging than the proposed extension to traffic_sign=* for a subset of the cases covered by traffic_sign=*. Is this correct? Tobias Knerr _

Re: [Tagging] Locating the voting page for a tag

2011-03-14 Thread Tobias Knerr
te something like "the tag shop=florist is equivalent to the 'Red Flower' label as defined by SMSB 2011-31337". But that still doesn't mean that renderers have to use the standardized symbol. Tobias Knerr ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux)

2011-03-18 Thread Tobias Knerr
d information. This is where a node is the appropriate solution until more detailed data becomes available. Accepting both nodes and areas to accommodate different detail levels of data is good practice for other features, e.g. those in the shop and amenity cat

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - parking (redux)

2011-03-18 Thread Tobias Knerr
ea". >> I also suggest to allow nodes for parking spaces. [...] > good argument. i changed the proposal accordingly. Nice, thanks. Tobias Knerr ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sidewalks as separate ways

2011-03-25 Thread Tobias Knerr
is the simplest solution for mapping the presence of sidewalks. However, sidewalk ways are the simplest solution for also mapping attributes and connectedness of sidewalks. Tobias Knerr ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging

Re: [Tagging] Any support for a flow tag?

2011-03-31 Thread Tobias Knerr
And, contrary to your experiences, my impression is that the implicit flow direction around here is almost always correct. So, as always, the problem is the lack of a migration strategy for existing data conforming to the current conventions. Tobias Knerr ___

Re: [Tagging] convention for multiple maxspeed values

2011-04-24 Thread Tobias Knerr
ki/Proposed_features/Conditions_for_access_tags > if there aren't, i'd like to suggest something like > > maxspeed:hgv=50 mph > maxspeed:goods=50 mph This precisely matches the syntax suggested by the proposal above. :) Tobias Knerr __

Re: [Tagging] convention for multiple maxspeed values

2011-04-26 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 2011-04-26 14:06, Richard Welty wrote: > On 4/26/11 2:11 AM, Per Lindström wrote: >> maxspeed values without unit is in km/h, and should be entered without >> suffix. >> If the speed is in mph the unit should be added. For more information see >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:maxspeed >

Re: [Tagging] Default access permission for indoor=area

2024-10-16 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 15.10.24 at 16:29, Michael Tsang wrote: I have checked the wiki again and the difference is between an area and a room is the former is not walled, while the latter is walled, and it says nothing about the access. You're correct that the only difference between indoor=area and indoor=room

[Tagging] [Voting] Feature Proposal - One-way for pedestrians

2024-12-17 Thread Tobias Knerr
Voting has started for the proposal “One-way for pedestrians”: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposal:One-way_for_pedestrians You can find the discussion on the RfC here: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/rfc-feature-proposal-one-way-for-pedestrians/118192 (I'm forwarding this message

Re: [Tagging] MAST RELATION

2025-03-08 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 07.03.25 at 21:46, Kevin wrote: Great point! Perhaps a role can be added as `support`? That way, one (or multiple) supports can be added to the relation, and each can have their own characteristics (such as mast, pole, street light, bollard, etc.?) I like the idea of an optional member wit

Re: [Tagging] MAST RELATION

2025-03-07 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 07.03.25 at 18:55, Christian Müller wrote via Tagging: EACH ELEMENT SHOULD BE TAGGED AS A NODE WHERE THEY ARE IN THE WORLD, EVEN IF THAT MEANS OVERLAPPING NODES. From a data organization point this is a bad idea, because a) the same information (lat/lon) is stored multiple times needless

Re: [Tagging] MAST RELATION

2025-03-07 Thread Tobias Knerr
On 06.03.25 at 20:46, thigpen--- wrote via Tagging: MAST RELATION As one of the few data consumers who is already evaluating whether objects are attached to other objects (for 3D rendering purposes), I'm naturally interested in the topic. Your approach does seem narrow in that it only works

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