Re: [Tagging] How to tag minor commercial roads?

On 7/16/2020 1:17 PM, Matthew Woehlke wrote: I'm wondering what, if anything, I should do with https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/351516889. It doesn't seem to meet the definition of a highway=residential, but I'm not convinced it is a lowly highway=service, either, but I also can't easily demonst

Re: [Tagging] Hiking "guideposts" painted on rocks, trees etc.

On 7/21/2020 11:02 AM, Jan Michel wrote: Hi Michal, I would stay with information=guidepost for those. They serve exactly the same purpose, so they should get the same major tag. It's only the way the sign is made that is different. You can add the common tags like "support", "material", "locatio

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

On 7/22/2020 10:34 AM, Allroads wrote: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Waterloopbos._Natuurgebied_van_Natuurmonumenten._Informatiebord.jpg - Fietsers op verharde fietspaden en wegen -Bicyclist on paved cycleway and roads. Here is written what is allowed. But more important: Overigens ver

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

On 7/22/2020 11:27 AM, bkil wrote: According to OSM wiki history, `bicycle=dismount` is a pretty recent tag, perhaps less than 7 years old. I think `bicycle=no` was invented much earlier. Hence it is you who wants to redefine a well established tag. According to the first version of access=* in

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

On 7/22/2020 11:34 AM, Tod Fitch wrote: On Jul 22, 2020, at 8:09 AM, Jmapb mailto:jm...@gmx.com>> wrote: If this unfortunate tagging practice really needs to be preserved (the idea of retagging so many bicycle=no ways is certainly daunting) then I'd suggest a new key, dismoun

Re: [Tagging] Is there a good way to indicate "pushing bicycle not allowed here"?

On 7/22/2020 12:05 PM, bkil wrote: My guess is that the adoption of a dismounted_bicycle=* tag or similar would require significantly *less* work than re-examining all current bicycle=no ways. Yes, I think that would be workable. Nonetheless, I completely agree with you, =no s

Re: [Tagging] Map maintenance with StreetComplete - Preferred tagging

On 7/24/2020 7:12 PM, Cj Malone wrote: OSM does not store edit timestamps for individual tags, only for the object as a whole. Finding out when a tag was changed requires a review of the entire history. I had to do this once when I saw a clear highway=motorway_link tagged as highway=motorway,

Re: [Tagging] Map maintenance with StreetComplete - Preferred tagging

Hi Tobias, I've been giving this some thought. My conclusion is that user validation of tags shouldn't be stored in the same database table as the tags themselves. It's clear that as the map data ages, tag validation is going to be a task with parallel and equal importance to tagging itself, but w

[Tagging] addr:street for routes

Hi all, what's the best way to tag the addr:street of an address along a highway route? Example, I'm mapping houses and POIs along NY 212: https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/411064 Some segments of the route are tagged name=Main Street and the addresses there use Main Street for their street

Re: [Tagging] addr:street for routes

On 7/31/2020 1:00 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: I'd go with the official address.  It's not rare to find addresses in the US where what goes on an envelope doesn't match what the street is actually called. Nor is it rare to find the wiki to be wrong Sometimes the official address is unclear. Example,

Re: [Tagging] addr:street for routes

On 7/31/2020 4:24 PM, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: Put one of the variants into addr:street and then all the variants as alternative names onto the road. Obviously that stretch of road is referred to under all these names, so this is what we should map. Putting aside the question of *which* variant t

Re: [Tagging] addr:street for routes

On 8/1/2020 12:51 AM, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Similarly, if you ask someone the name of the road in California with ref="CA 96", they will tell you "Highway 96" or perhaps "The river road". They won't say "Nah, it doesn't have a name, just a State highway number." So in that situation, how wou

Re: [Tagging] RFC: service=? for all highway=service (service=parking needed, primarily, I think)

On 8/1/2020 8:40 PM, David Dean wrote: Hi everyone, I'm interested in proposing and/or documenting existing tagging approaches of the wiki to ensure that all highway=service ways can have a service=? associated tag. Hi David -- My feeling is that often highway=service, without a service=* tag,

Re: [Tagging] addr:street for routes

On 8/3/2020 6:07 AM, Sarah Hoffmann wrote: There is some fuzzy matching, you can expect to work, for example abbreviations like street -> st or even New York -> NY. But going from ref=NY-214 to 'State Highway 214' is already a long stretch that requires special local knowledge. Understood. And

Re: [Tagging] addr:street for routes

On 8/3/2020 4:36 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Mon, Aug 3, 2020, 15:29 Jmapb mailto:jm...@gmx.com>> wrote: ...Regardless, if this general approach is considered valid and workable, then I'd like to propose the following answer to my original question:   * Q)

Re: [Tagging] edit war related to tagging of a bus-only major road

On 12/9/2020 9:36 AM, Michael Tsang wrote: Des Voeux Road Central is considered one of the most important roads in the area which I tagged it as highway=secondary, however another editor has repeatedly changed it to highway=service on the fact that that road is closed to motor vehicles except bu

Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

I've been using tourism=motel for these, if there are no other features that would tip them into leisure=resort. At least In the rural USA, there's a continuum between motels that have an array of rentable rooms in one or two buildings and those where each room is an individual cabin, or sometime

Re: [Tagging] How to tag entire group of rentable holiday cottages?

On 12/14/2020 3:11 PM, Paul Allen wrote: I'd expect a motel to be set up to handle very short duration (one or two day) at very short notice (turn up and ask for a room) and to offer meals unless there are diners/restaurants nearby... Take a look at https://www.canllefaes.com/

Re: [Tagging] sport=shooting_range vs sport=shooting + leisure=pitch

On 12/19/2020 5:16 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I agree with this, there’s a lot of abuse for “pitch”, and these are not arguments for continuing the line, it’s never too late to learn from past errors ;-) leisure=shooting_range might make sense? There are also 4000 military=range (is this abo

Re: [Tagging] Possible merge of marine_rescue & lifeboat_station tags?

On 11/6/2022 6:18 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I definitely agree that it should be emergency=, rather than amenity=. I must also admit to a slight personal preference for =marine_rescue :-), but the vast majority of usage is in the UK & Western Europe, where =lifeboat seems to be the most

Re: [Tagging] care services

On 11/17/2022 2:23 PM, Minh Nguyen wrote: Vào lúc 10:51 2022-11-17, Philip Barnes đã viết: On Thu, 2022-11-17 at 19:21 +0100, Georges Dutreix wrote: Le 17/11/2022 à 18:52, Philip Barnes a écrit : I have used office=home_care for a care company. I found as well amenity=personal_service used

Re: [Tagging] care services

On 11/18/2022 5:07 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sat, 19 Nov 2022 at 05:58, Jmapb wrote: I think office=home_aide might be good. ("home_care" sounds like it's the home that's being cared for.) How about =home_assistance? Hey

Re: [Tagging] building=entrance

On 12/12/2022 2:28 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Following a JOSM discussion I wanted to ask here, if someone else is using building=entrance to tag entrance buildings. It is a term that seems well introduced and understandable, so there is not much hindering people from using it, just that t

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

On 12/29/2022 10:13 AM, Zeke Farwell wrote: Yes, the way name tag should be the most local trail name. However, sometimes there is no local trail name and the long distance route name is the only name.  In this case putting the long distance route name on the ways also makes sense. I've been

Re: [Tagging] Route names being applied to tracks/paths

On 12/30/2022 2:22 AM, stevea wrote: I agree with Mateusz here: whether to tag a way after the name of a route which includes it (if it didn't have a name=* tag beforehand) isn't a "one size fits all" situation. It's difficult to describe what the right thing to do is in all cases. I've als

Re: [Tagging] How to map Irish pubs?

On 10/8/2019 4:37 PM, Rory McCann wrote: What's the best way to tag an Irish pub? Not just a pub in Ireland, but a specifically themed "Irish Pub" (which are usually outside Ireland)? There's ~300 instances of `cuisine=irish`, which would make total sense for places which (also) serve food. Trad

Re: [Tagging] theme it is for me then | Re: How to map Irish pubs?

On 10/14/2019 6:07 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: There are in some areas pubs that would merit a brand tag (maybe it is generally common), they have the beer logo aside their name on the sign, beer mats, menus, glasses , sunshades, everything can be branded (it could happen they’re “recycling”

Re: [Tagging] shop selling trucks

On 11/16/2019 12:21 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: I have found a shop that sells Volvo and Volkswagen commercial vehicles (large trucks). Looking in the wiki, it suggested the tag shop=car should/could also be used for this, but I find it puzzling. How would someone looking at the map understan

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal – RFC – notary

On 12/3/2019 3:26 PM, Sebastian Martin Dicke wrote: I often found offices of lawyers, which are notaries, too, and office sharings of lawyers and notaries. To tag this appropriate, I wrote a proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/notary Definition: Notary services off

Re: [Tagging] Route node roles - was Re: Feature Proposal - RFC - hiking_trail_relation_roles

On 12/7/2019 11:52 AM, s8evq wrote: On Sat, 7 Dec 2019 10:30:37 +1100, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: For nodes .. think the roles of ways should be done first, but some thoughts for later proposal/s. Are they necessary? In my limited experience mapping hiking routes, I have not yet co

Re: [Tagging] Route node roles - was Re: Feature Proposal - RFC - hiking_trail_relation_roles

On 12/8/2019 6:44 PM, Peter Elderson wrote: Could you envision a node passed by two hikes, and being a checkpoint for the one and nothing special for the other? Camino de Santiago ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/153968 ) comes to mind. Hikers doing the whole route carry passports tha

Re: [Tagging] Route node roles - was Re: Feature Proposal - RFC - hiking_trail_relation_roles

On 12/9/2019 3:43 AM, Peter Elderson wrote: I have walked many "Camino" sections in Italy. The "checkpoints" are just stamps, you can get them at many shops, hotels, restaurants, tourist info points and the like on the way. They will stamp anything for anyone who asks. There is no register, noth

Re: [Tagging] How to tag oneway restriction applying to pedestrians?

On 1/13/2020 9:46 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote: Personally, I have no problem with oneway=yes having different implications depending on the value of the highway key. In general I would expect the oneway value to align the predominant use of the highway in question. More specifi

Re: [Tagging] How to tag oneway restriction applying to pedestrians?

On 1/13/2020 9:43 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote: On Mon, Jan 13, 2020 at 8:21 AM Paul Allen wrote: Not very intuitive but, perhaps in rare cases, necessary. What if the road is one-way to both vehicles and pedestrians but vehicles go from A to B whilst pedestrians go from B to A? You beat me to it!

Re: [Tagging] How to tag oneway restriction applying to pedestrians?

On 1/14/2020 9:13 AM, Jarek Piórkowski wrote: Here's how the mappers have seen the tags in question so far, according to Taginfo: oneway:foot=no 1267 occurrences (not all from one region) oneway:foot=yes 89 oneway:foot=-1, 1 occurrence foot:oneway=no 48 foot:oneway=yes 2 foot:backward=designat

Re: [Tagging] Query regarding seasonal tag combined for outdoor water fountains.

On 1/15/2020 10:26 AM, marc marc wrote: Le 15.01.20 à 16:15, Jmapb via Tagging a écrit : Don't forget about man_made=drinking_fountain! omg, what's the diff with amenity=drinking_water ? the direction of water flow upwards? 348 out of 371 objects also have an amenity tag, which

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - give box

On 1/21/2020 3:42 AM, Markus Peloso wrote: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/give_box A small facility where people drop off and pick up various types of items in the sense of free sharing. Hi Thanks for the discussion, inputs and improvement to this tag. *I request for v

[Tagging] highway=path for *all* mixed foot/bicycle highways?

Hi all, just noticed this passage on the cycleway=* wiki page ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway ): For mapping a separate path (on a separate way) dedicated to cycling traffic use highway=cycleway. Foot traffic is restricted on these paths.   *  Do not use highway=cycleway on p

Re: [Tagging] highway=path for *all* mixed foot/bicycle highways?

On 1/27/2020 12:27 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Am Mo., 27. Jan. 2020 um 16:37 Uhr schrieb Jmapb mailto:jm...@gmx.com>>: And also editing the highway=path page, which currently says it's not for use in urban situations. this seems very strange and is likely th

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate healthcare=pharmacy and healthcare=hospital

On 1/28/2020 9:23 AM, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: The pages are nearly identical. Actually, the healthcare=pharmacy page was just made recently by copying the amenity=pharmacy page. Before it was only documented minimally at Key:healthcare I believe the mappers who developed the healthcare=* schem

Re: [Tagging] highway=path for *all* mixed foot/bicycle highways?

On 1/27/2020 3:53 PM, Andrew Davidson wrote: The same user also changed the Australian tagging guidelines without discussion, which we didn't notice till last October: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-au/2019-October/013009.html and they were reverted. Didn't notice at the time th

Re: [Tagging] highway=path for *all* mixed foot/bicycle highways?

On 1/28/2020 4:23 PM, Tomas Straupis wrote: Yet for ten years or even more the logic was that if the same way is designated for both pedestrians and cyclists, it cannot be tagged with highway=footway - as it is for cyclists as well, it cannot be tagged with highway=cycleway because it is for p

Re: [Tagging] highway=path for *all* mixed foot/bicycle highways?

On 1/28/2020 4:49 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: Be that as it may, there are a great many `highway=path` objects where the intent was `combined foot- and cycleway`. The concept that a `footway` is urban while a `path` represents something more like a wilderness trail is a rather new one to me. (I'm no

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate healthcare=pharmacy and healthcare=hospital

On 1/29/2020 8:50 AM, Lionel Giard wrote: That's clearer when we get all the history thank you Joseph ! :-) I agree with you that the added value of duplicating the key is very limited, so i understand your edit on the wiki. ^_^ IMO, unilaterally deprecating healthcare=clinic/dentist/doctor/ho

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate healthcare=pharmacy and healthcare=hospital

On 1/29/2020 2:23 PM, Andrew Hain wrote: Is it time for another controversial decisions page then? The healthcare=* tags were formally proposed and voted on 10 years ago. Included in that proposal ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?oldid=1318635 ) was the idea that dual-tagging some f

Re: [Tagging] Deprecate healthcare=pharmacy and healthcare=hospital

On 1/29/2020 6:14 PM, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: The healthcare=* tags were formally proposed and voted on 10 years ago. Included in that proposal ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?oldid=1318635 ) was the idea that dual-tagging some features with both amenity=*/healthcare=* would be the

Re: [Tagging] road names and refs

On 1/30/2020 6:22 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: Uhm. It looks pretty much like any other `highway=unclassified`. The signs say 'Old Route 7' in the style the township uses for rural roads. There are no shields or chaining markers to indicate that it's a state highway. And it's been called, 'Old Route 7

Re: [Tagging] road names and refs

On 1/31/2020 11:56 AM, Jmapb wrote: They don't have their own street signs, and addresses along them will be 12345 Route 28 (or 12345 State Route 28, or 12345 State Highway 28, or 12345 NY 28... poorly standardized.) There might be a case for removing the name= from these, maybe even ta

Re: [Tagging] Ski picnic room

On 2/3/2020 5:55 PM, Warin wrote: On 30/1/20 9:23 pm, MARLIN LUKE wrote: Noticed amenity=shelter. I initially thought about combining it with shelter-type:picnic, but it seems too... "open" for me. Like, not a complete building. I'll use this in the meantime There is shelter_type=weather_shel

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - Voting - give box

On 2/5/2020 8:58 AM, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: Well, if we count all of those, it is 68% (13/19) which is less than the 74% cut-off. Is it normal to count abstentions as part of the vote total? The proposal template text ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Proposed_feature_voting ) say

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

On 2/5/2020 4:36 AM, Lionel Giard wrote: Thus, it seems difficult to find "one" subdivision that will always work worldwide ?! :-) Maybe that we should keep a generic word and allow everything in it (like subdivision=* with the name of "School", "Institute", "College",... if relevant) ? I agre

Re: [Tagging] amenity=faculty?

On 2/5/2020 6:21 PM, Lionel Giard wrote: Site relation are more used to put the tag "amenity=university" and all the information only 1 time for the whole university when it is spread across a city or multiple sites. This site relation equal to the amenity=university area under a campus that's al

Re: [Tagging] man_made=petroleum_well vs man_made=pumping_rig

On 2/26/2020 4:59 PM, Joseph Eisenberg wrote: It's also possible to have a functioning petroleum well without any notable surface-level equipment So in that case, there would be no "pumping rig", right? There would just be some pipes and valves the the wellhead, aka a "Christmas tree": https:/

Re: [Tagging] Public refrigerators

On 2/26/2020 4:32 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: On 26. Feb 2020, at 08:56, Markus Peloso wrote: The amenity=give_box tag is specific for sharing and reusing none food items. Please do not use it for food sharing +1, although these are somehow similar features from a certain point of view,

Re: [Tagging] Public refrigerators

On 2/29/2020 3:43 AM, Markus Peloso wrote: I find amenity=give_box is different from amenity=food_sharing as a shop=general is different from shop=supermarket. In Switzerland if I go into a supermarket I found products of daily hygiene but the main thing is about shopping for food. True, and

Re: [Tagging] Public refrigerators

On 3/2/2020 3:57 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: I'm sure that there'd be a subcategory for 'hiker boxes' as well. http://www.thetrailmaster.com/hike-smart/hiker-boxes-share-and-share-alike/ https://www.whiteblaze.net/forum/showthread.php/55460-quot-I-found-it-in-a-hiker-box-quot Major long-distance tra

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - hiking_trail_relation_roles

On 3/5/2020 9:27 AM, Peter Elderson wrote: Do you know trails with detached sections? We have some in Nederland, on the islands. Doesn't fit in the proposed role scheme, I think. Vr gr Peter Elderson See this section of the E10 in Czechia ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5465693 ) -- t

Re: [Tagging] Can highway=cycleway be limited to MTB?

On 4/2/2020 9:29 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thu, Apr 2, 2020 at 3:10 AM Andrew Harvey mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com>> wrote: My view based on current usage, reading of the wiki and general opinion is that highway=cycleway is meant for any path that is either designed/intended for

Re: [Tagging] Footways where pedestrians may only walk in one direction: oneway:foot=yes or foot:backward=no?

On 4/16/2020 4:46 AM, Paul Allen wrote: On Thu, 16 Apr 2020 at 04:08, Andrew Harvey mailto:andrew.harv...@gmail.com>> wrote: To sidestep your question, oneway=yes on a highway=footway, cycleway or path already implies it's not accessible to vehicles so a oneway tag on any of those hi

Re: [Tagging] Running but no hiking/walking

On 5/1/2020 4:37 PM, Mike Thompson wrote: Hello, We have a trail [0] around here where walking/hiking is not allowed, but running is. Currently it is tagged foot=yes, which doesn't give the full story. In case you are wondering how such a situation could come about, it is because the land manage

Re: [Tagging] Running but no hiking/walking

On 5/1/2020 7:48 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Another idea could be to introduce “running” as a new state of foot, e.g. foot=no foot:conditional =yes @ running I like this, a little less cheeky than conjuring an arbitrary unsigned minspeed for runners. And would be likely interpreted "correc

Re: [Tagging] relations & paths

On 5/12/2020 10:58 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:37 PM brad mailto:bradha...@fastmail.com>> wrote: OK, but it seems redundant to me.   A trail/path get tagged as a path. There's a trailhead and a sign, it gets a tagged with a name.   Why does it need to be

Re: [Tagging] relations & paths

On 5/13/2020 10:12 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: We've had relations for over a decade now, IIRC.  It's time to stop treating this basic primitive as entity-non-grata.  If tools /still/ can't deal with this, this is on the tools and their developers now. Sure. Regarding the original question -- in

Re: [Tagging] relations & paths

On 5/14/2020 10:01 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 5:48 AM Steve Doerr mailto:doerr.step...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 14/05/2020 09:31, Jo wrote: On Wed, May 13, 2020, 17:44 Jmapb mailto:jm...@gmx.com>> wrote: Regarding the original questio

Re: [Tagging] relations & paths

On Wed, May 13, 2020, 17:44 Jmapb mailto:jm...@gmx.com>> wrote: Regarding the original question -- in what circumstances are single-member walking/hiking/biking route relations a good mapping practice -- what would be your answer? Always

Re: [Tagging] Building names, historical/original owner?

On 12/14/2018 11:20 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: On Fri, Dec 14, 2018 at 11:36 PM Adam Franco > wrote: What are folks thoughts about these historical-owner building names when they aren't well-known? Should they go in a `description=

Re: [Tagging] What do we call it? :-)

On 12/28/2018 1:36 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: Just doing mapping of some more-or-less retail areas after a drive around, & have some questions as to what we'd call some of the businesses / establishments http://p3sportsgoldcoast.com.au/ A specialised sports recovery centre, for football t

Re: [Tagging] Trail register

On 1/4/2019 4:10 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: My Overpass-fu is failing me here. The only similar thing I'm turning up is summit=register, which is the "record your visit" case, rather than "you must sign in and out here," and is specific to a mountain peak. There are a few dozen "tourism=register" no

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

On 1/16/2019 12:56 PM, EthnicFood IsGreat wrote: On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 4:28 PM Peter Elderson wrote: I made a concept wiki page: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:trailhead I think it fits the outcome of this discussion. If not, feel free to comment. A lot of the trailheads I've

Re: [Tagging] Trailhead tagging

On 1/16/2019 2:45 PM, Peter Elderson wrote: I copied the page from the highway=bus_stop page, because the thing resembles a bus stop. This off the road bit can go. The idea, as discussed earlier, is not to include the node in the route or routes. The node allows people to hop on one or more r

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "test preperation" / cram school / Juku (eg: Komon)

On 1/30/2019 7:21 PM, John Willis via Tagging wrote: Looking over the page for schools and  all the abandoned proposals, I assume there is some in-use tag for after-school study and test preparation type private “schools” [...] Does anyone have any experience tagging these types of things? t

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "test preperation" / cram school / Juku (eg: Komon)

On 2/16/2019 7:27 PM, Jmapb wrote: On 1/30/2019 7:21 PM, John Willis via Tagging wrote: Looking over the page for schools and  all the abandoned proposals, I assume there is some in-use tag for after-school study and test preparation type private “schools” [...] Does anyone have any

Re: [Tagging] Tagging "test preperation" / cram school / Juku (eg: Komon)

On 2/17/2019 12:30 PM, Erkin Alp Güney wrote: See: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Education_Reform_Alternative Link doesn't work for me. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listin

Re: [Tagging] How to map Hostile Architecture? e.g. benches you can't lie/sleep on?

On 2/28/2019 5:12 AM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: sleepable=yes/no is for me problematic as it can be easily confused with "is it OK to sleep there". `bench:architecture=hostile` has multiple problems - it is unclear (what it means? that it was built during Russian occupation?), subjective and i

Re: [Tagging] tagging laboratories

On 3/5/2019 2:48 AM, Volker Schmidt wrote: ... and then there are big research centres that are called "laboratory". Like LLNL or Los Alamos National Laboratory. These sorts of things I've seen tagged as amenity=research_institute. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity=research ins

Re: [Tagging] Possibility to draw parking properties as an area

On 3/6/2019 12:04 PM, yo paseopor wrote: Not only parking_space but all the parking you can find in a street, not a parking lot or a parking place (amenity=parking). I say I need to separate and zoom the info about parking spaces (but not delimited every place) in each street. Parking is not a

Re: [Tagging] Possibility to draw parking properties as an area

On 3/6/2019 1:12 PM, yo paseopor wrote: Sorry...but parking space is not a lane, lanes are for driving. You cannot drive by a "parking lane". Lane has differents meanings. You can see the difference in Spanish: Carril para circular, Zona de aparcamiento. It does not exist Carril de aparcamient

Re: [Tagging] Possibility to draw parking properties as an area

On 3/6/2019 8:39 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 05:29, Jmapb <mailto:jm...@gmx.com>> wrote: On the other hand, if drawing amenity=parking areas alongside the street is what you want to do, certainly I've seen situations (such as the ones

Re: [Tagging] Possibility to draw parking properties as an area

On 3/7/2019 2:05 AM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: even though it would prevent a routing engine from actually being able to arrive inside the parking amenity. I wouldn't think that should be a problem, would it? Wouldn't a router only work to take you to "that" particular individual space? I d

Re: [Tagging] Possibility to draw parking properties as an area

On 3/7/2019 9:40 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Parking along street is a specific place for parking, in fact it basically cannot be used for anything except as a place to park vehicles. at least as long as there are cars parked ;-) https://www.klimareporter.de/images/karo3imgmanager/resized/

Re: [Tagging] Baby-sitting

On 3/7/2019 6:33 PM, Sergio Manzi wrote: On 2019-03-07 23:31, Cascafico Giovanni wrote: How can I tag an hotel which features baby-sitting? I think it should be something in the lines of "service:babysitting=yes" unless we already have something different in use... I'd be inclined towards ch

Re: [Tagging] tags for tutor or coaching out of school

On 3/10/2019 6:16 PM, Warin wrote: To me an office is more of an administration type thing. I don't think it should be used for an educational function. An office=educational_institution would be for record keeping, admissions, teacher preparation offices - that kind of thing. shop=* to me th

Re: [Tagging] Status of oneway=cw oneway=ccw

On 3/12/2019 5:53 PM, Warin wrote: On 13/03/19 08:43, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: I do know of one that is one-way - admittedly it's only ~300 m's long & it's on a elevated suspension bridge!, not a normal track, but it is posted as entrance only at this end & exit only at the other. The over

Re: [Tagging] Status of oneway=cw oneway=ccw

On 3/12/2019 6:09 PM, Warin wrote: On 13/03/19 08:59, Jmapb wrote: Is there any point in considering a tag for oneways that are not enforced but generally done nonetheless? oneway=traditional, oneway=suggested, something like that? (Again, I know I've seen these, but I can't t

Re: [Tagging] free_standing_emergency_department, amenity or clinic ?

On 4/29/2019 4:47 PM, Nita Rae Sanders wrote: This concerns the best way to tag a hospital/healthcare facility that is known as a 'free standing emergency department. It is also called an offsite emergency department. ... Does this situation dictate a new high-level attribute value (e.g. amenit

Re: [Tagging] free_standing_emergency_department, amenity or clinic ?

On 4/30/2019 12:13 PM, Nita Rae Sanders wrote: On 4/30/19, Jmapb wrote: I've mapped one of these: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6372786026 ... It's got a very different feel from an "Urgent Care" center, which I'd tag as healthcare=clinic. It feels like a

Re: [Tagging] free_standing_emergency_department, amenity or clinic ?

On 5/1/2019 7:47 AM, Nita Rae Sanders wrote: Have we reached the conclusion that a new tagging value is needed ? If so, what is the schema for the new value ? Can we move on to a vote ? TIA Personally I'm okay with continuing to use healthcare=centre+healthcare:speciality=emergency. But... I'

Re: [Tagging] free_standing_emergency_department, amenity or clinic ?

On 5/2/2019 6:47 AM, Nita Rae Sanders wrote: I am tacitly suggesting that these facilities be tagged as healthcare=emergency_department, hospital=no, with an optional (and likely present) operator=*, plus the usual addressing information. amenity shall not be used. That would both convey that

Re: [Tagging] free_standing_emergency_department, amenity or clinic ?

On 5/2/2019 11:53 AM, Jmapb wrote: * regarding amenity, I actually think you might want to consider adding the amenity=doctors tag, at least transitionally. It's not strictly wrong, it's well within the traditional use of the tag (which, in the pre-healthcare=* era, has been basically

Re: [Tagging] Marking temporary traffic organisation change

On 5/8/2019 2:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: opening_date works well for road under construction, it is not fitting for road that is not closed but some things like oneway status, lanes are modified The wiki for conditional restrictions gives the following examples:  - oneway:conditional=yes

Re: [Tagging] Apps of delivery

On 5/12/2019 8:19 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: On Sun, 12 May 2019 at 19:28, Tony Shield mailto:tony.shield...@gmail.com>> wrote: Like the idea. delivery_contact might be better. I prefer delivery over contact Maybe (using our local companies as an eg) delivery:ubereats="url" deliv

Re: [Tagging] Apps of delivery

On 5/13/2019 12:35 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: verifiable facts about a restaurant (or other feature) might not always be verifiable in the feature itself, but still be verifiable for everybody interested in it (elsewhere). If the URL is accessible for everybody it would satisfy the verifiabi

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - juggling spot

On 5/21/2019 3:34 PM, Pablo wrote A new feature proposal which could be very useful for the juggling community. Usually, jugglers meet in specific spaces in cities (usually open spaces like parcs). There is often a day of the week which is choose to meet in priority. It s like a informal sport

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - juggling spot

On 5/22/2019 4:30 AM, Marc Gemis wrote: For me, a sport means competition, rankings, trophies. Is this the case here? Otherwise, I think leisure is better. A pitch a place specially designed for a certain sport. I think this is not the case here. It's just an open space, which can also serve othe

Re: [Tagging] A simple survey and proposal about tagging cram schools

On 5/22/2019 3:03 PM, 石野貴之 wrote: Hello. I have wanted to organize tagging schemes of educational institutions outside school. I conducted a very simple survey and uploaded the result and my opinion in https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/yumean1119/diary/364867 . I would be glad if you give me a

Re: [Tagging] iD adding highway=footway to all railway/public_transport=platform ways and relations

On 5/23/2019 12:26 PM, Nick Bolten wrote: I'm confused, because these two statements seem incompatible. If it's redundant, how can it also have a conflict like different address restrictions? I'd like to know how, as a data consumer, I should reliably interpret existing platforms without the tag

Re: [Tagging] ID is not a king and final arbiter of OSM

On 5/23/2019 12:32 PM, Tobias Zwick wrote: Undoubtedly, the developers behavior is not helping there. I have the impression that they have almost given up on the OSM community. But this doesn't come out of nowhere. I think it is important to understand their side of the story if we were to re

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

On 5/24/2019 11:20 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote: Seriously, we do not need to define what "sport" is, we will be voting with our feet. All accepted values are here: https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/sport#values (plus what is missing) certainly frequent tags should be preferred over those

Re: [Tagging] Definition of Sport

On 5/24/2019 12:44 PM, Kevin Kenny wrote: I think you meant, 'physical' activity, although it would be interesting to see an event like competitive soothsaying! If you ask 100 different psychics to identify a Zener card, some will almost certainly get it right! You'll probably have a champion a

Re: [Tagging] Non-orthogonal crossing=* tag proposals: crossing=marked/unmarked vs crossing:markings=yes/no

On 5/24/2019 4:10 PM, Paul Allen wrote: Have you ever seen a crossing with lights AND zebra stripes? This is a very popular situation in Poland. I knew there'd be at least one.  :) It's common in the USA too. OK, so let me ask this.  Do zebra stripes on their own have any lega

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