Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

2022-10-05 Thread Warin
On 5/10/22 08:25, Minh Nguyen wrote: Vào lúc 11:54 2022-10-04, Jass Kurn đã viết: I've just noticed there is a bubbler tag being promoted? Which appears to be an American English term for a British English drinking fountain. Why promote another term, and use an American English term. What was

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

2022-10-05 Thread martianfreeloader
There is a broad consensus that the language for OSM tags is British English. Using a non-BE word for a tag because it is used in Australia while a synonymous BE word exists, would be the same using a Xhosa, Portuguese or Korean word, just because it exists. I know there are a few exceptions l

[Tagging] Better term for unisex

2022-10-05 Thread martianfreeloader
In the discussion of the Gender proposal, I noted that I find it strange to use the term "unisex" for "gender-neutral" or "all-gender" (as sex and gender are different properties). Proposal: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Gender My suggestion was to use gender=mixed inst

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

2022-10-05 Thread Illia Marchenko
Alternative to the sport=soccer is sport=british_football because "football" is context specific, and "American football", "Australian football", "Canadian football", "Gaelic football" exists. ср, 5 окт. 2022 г., 13:52 martianfreeloader : > There is a broad consensus that the language for OSM tag

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

2022-10-05 Thread ael via Tagging
On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 10:46:39AM +, martianfreeloader wrote: > There is a broad consensus that the language for OSM tags is British > English. Using a non-BE word for a tag because it is used in Australia while > a synonymous BE word exists, would be the same using a Xhosa, Portuguese or > Ko

Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Bench: replace seats by capacity

2022-10-05 Thread Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging
This revert makes sense to me. BTW, one may count both seats and capacity on benches, why not Oct 2, 2022, 22:15 by dafadl...@gmail.com: > Until very recently, the wiki said that seats=* means seats, not capacity: > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:amenity%3Dbench&diff=235

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

2022-10-05 Thread Jass Kurn
On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 12:48, ael via Tagging wrote: > On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 10:46:39AM +, martianfreeloader wrote: > > As a native British English speaker I had never heard of a "bubbler". > As others have said, I would have called that a drinking_fountian. > I really don't understand why s

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

2022-10-05 Thread Marc_marc
Le 05.10.22 à 15:21, Jass Kurn a écrit : it should be, as a suggestion,  drinking_water:type=bubbler, or drinking_water:type=bottle_refill. :type is a meaningless suffix type of what ? big/small ? private/public ? nice/ugly ? so our suggestion could be drinking_water=bubbler, or drinking_wate

[Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Tag capacity on benches without separation or not?

2022-10-05 Thread martianfreeloader
Hi, after recollecting some courage, here a second attempt. I've drafted two opposing proposals on whether capacity/seats should be tagged on benches without a functional separation into seats or not. The purpose is to find out if there is a community consensus on this question. "Sure, it'

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Tag capacity on benches without separation or not?

2022-10-05 Thread Marc_marc
Le 05.10.22 à 18:57, martianfreeloader a écrit : I've drafted two opposing proposals on whether capacity/seats should be tagged on benches without a functional separation into seats or not. I admire your energy, but I don't think a proposal is made to say what people are allowed or not allowed

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Tag capacity on benches without separation or not?

2022-10-05 Thread Volker Schmidt
Can we not finish this useless discussion? The amenity=bench tag was created just for that purpose, benches. Some time later someone created the key seats to indicate how many people can sit on a bench, adding explicitly that the key capacity should not be used in that case. The addition that key s

Re: [Tagging] Feature proposal - RFC - Tag capacity on benches without separation or not?

2022-10-05 Thread martianfreeloader
Hi Volker, Thanks for your comments. On 05/10/2022 23:01, Volker Schmidt wrote: Can we not finish this useless discussion? 1) That's what the proposal is trying to do. 2) You're free to abstain from any discussion you consider useless; but since you haven't: The amenity=bench tag was creat

Re: [Tagging] Better term for unisex

2022-10-05 Thread Graeme Fitzpatrick
gender=any? Thanks Graeme On Wed, 5 Oct 2022 at 21:21, martianfreeloader wrote: > In the discussion of the Gender proposal, I noted that I find it strange > to use the term "unisex" for "gender-neutral" or "all-gender" (as sex > and gender are different properties). > > Proposal: https://wiki

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

2022-10-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 5 Oct 2022, at 13:48, ael via Tagging wrote: > > As a native British English speaker I had never heard of a "bubbler". > As others have said, I would have called that a drinking_fountian. > I really don't understand why some people object to that term, but then > I have

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

2022-10-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 5 Oct 2022, at 15:26, Jass Kurn wrote: > > The tag amenity=fountain was created to map the entity/object known in > English as fountains, and is documented in the OSM wiki with several pictures > of fountains. eg > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Fountain_at_M

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

2022-10-05 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
sent from a phone > On 5 Oct 2022, at 15:26, Jass Kurn wrote: > > When it should be, as a suggestion, drinking_water:type=bubbler, or > drinking_water:type=bottle_refill. these tags are misleading, you are not describing drinking water, hence it is not a suitable approach IMHO. amenity=d

Re: [Tagging] Deprecation proposal: man_made=drinking_fountain

2022-10-05 Thread Minh Nguyen
Vào lúc 03:04 2022-10-05, Warin đã viết: On 5/10/22 08:25, Minh Nguyen wrote: Vào lúc 11:54 2022-10-04, Jass Kurn đã viết: I've just noticed there is a bubbler tag being promoted? Which appears to be an American English term for a British English drinking fountain. Why promote another term, a