Hello,
I already have a diary entry for this issue, but I think it would be better
discussing it here.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/giggls/diary/394619#comment48493
The problem is, that real-world usage of the capacity tag on camp-istes is
currently inconsistent and thus mostly useless.
W
For starters I would oppose using the term "rideshare" for what is a
taxi/chauffeur service. It should be noted that there are actual
rideshare organisations and services out there, but uber, grab, lyft
etc. are not among them, they are simply trying to co-opt a term with
positive associations
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> On 31. Oct 2020, at 11:27, Sven Geggus wrote:
>
> Similar in spirit would be deprecating "maxtents" unsing "capacity:tents",
> "capacity:caravans" and "capacity:visitors" in future.
>
> What do you think?
prefer this version
Cheers Martin
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Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
>> On 31. Oct 2020, at 11:27, Sven Geggus wrote:
>>
>> Similar in spirit would be deprecating "maxtents" unsing "capacity:tents",
>> "capacity:caravans" and "capacity:visitors" in future.
>>
>> What do you think?
>
> prefer this version
I just saw, that capacity:p
Am Sa., 31. Okt. 2020 um 11:36 Uhr schrieb Simon Poole :
> If there are actual legal differences between taxi and chauffeur access
> somewhere, we could use chauffeur or chauffeur-driven as an access tag
> (better suggestions welcome).
>
I can confirm that there are such differences, for example
On 31.10.20 12:03, Sven Geggus wrote:
* Instead the following tags should be used in future:
- capacity:persons
- capacity:tents
- capacity:caravans
I agree.
There is a slight problem here regarding singular/plural.
- vehicle types are usually given in singular (e.g. capacity:bicycle)
Jan Michel wrote:
> In fact, capacity:caravan and capacity:motorhome are used more often
> compared to caravans and motorhomes.
>
> I would go for
>
> - capacity:persons
> - capacity:tents
> - capacity:caravan
> - capacity:motorhome
We are already using plural when tagging cara
In the United States at least, there is a very real difference in meaning
between "rideshare" and "taxi" services when it comes *specifically* to
access at airports. And I believe that is the intent of this proposal: how
do I tag the special area in the airport where I must go in order to be
picke
Looks like a good idea.
In that context: When travelling with a bike and a small tent (applies
equally to hikers) I have encountered the following issues:
- camp sites that do not accept small tents - they only have places for
caravans and large tents.
- camp sites that do have areas de
On Sat, 2020-10-31 at 12:08 +0100, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> Am Sa., 31. Okt. 2020 um 11:36 Uhr schrieb Simon Poole <
> si...@poole.ch>:
> >
> >
> >
> > If there are actual legal differences between taxi and chauffeur
> > access somewhere, we could use chauffeur or chauffeur-d
> Also private hire, which need to be booked in advance and have the same
> access rights/restrictions on the public highway as a private car. For some
> reason I cannot fathom, in London private hire are called minicabs.
>
> Uber and Lyft are legally private hire so whilst there may be a case for
I agree that qualifying the capacity key as capacity:*=N for numbers is more
systematic
than maxSOMETHING, which is still suitable for dimensions, such as maxspeed or
maxweight.
tom
On 31.10.2020 12:03, Sven Geggus wrote:
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
On 31. Oct 2020, at 11:27, Sven Geggus w
Am 31.10.2020 um 16:11 schrieb Philip Barnes:
...
Also private hire, which need to be booked in advance and have the
same access rights/restrictions on the public highway as a private
car. For some reason I cannot fathom, in London private hire are
called minicabs.
Uber and Lyft are legally
On 31.10.20 14:40, Sven Geggus wrote:
We are already using plural when tagging caravans=yes/no and tents=yes/no.
Thus I would not suggents to tag this singular in case of capacity.
Looking at the current state of tagging in taginfo we have:
capacity:caravans 65
capacity:caravan 4
capacity:ten
>
> Actually I quite like "private_hire" as an access value.
Are you suggesting access=private_hire as a tag? That would not be
consistent with how taxi services are tagged. We don't use access=taxi, we
use amenity=taxi + taxi=*. By that logic, the access tagging should use
private_hire=*, and
Re: "That would be a camp site you can enter with a motorhome, but not with
a trailer."
I don't think that exists in the real world. Motorhomes (aka RVs) are quite
large and long, usually bigger than the combination of a small caravan (aka
trailer) + motorcar.
-- Joseph Eisenberg
On Sat, Oct 31,
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> On 31. Oct 2020, at 18:55, Joseph Eisenberg
> wrote:
>
> Re: "That would be a camp site you can enter with a motorhome, but not with a
> trailer."
>
> I don't think that exists in the real world. Motorhomes (aka RVs) are quite
> large and long, usually bigger than the c
It's almost never standard to use access=bus or access=taxi, it's
bus=yes/no/designated + taxi=yes/no/designated added to another feature
like a highway=* or amenity=parking
I agree with the idea of using private_hire=* instead of rideshare=* because
this appears to be a proper British English ter
As a Brit, I would say, "private hire vehicle (PHV)" for a minicab, Uber
etc.
'vehicle' not meaning only motorised.
On Sat, 31 Oct 2020, 18:00 Joseph Eisenberg,
wrote:
> It's almost never standard to use access=bus or access=taxi, it's
> bus=yes/no/designated + taxi=yes/no/designated added to
Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
> the typical size of a RV may be regionally different
Jepp. In Europe an average camping trailer is usually roughly
the same as an average recreational vehicle.
Sven
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I think there is a bit of a misunderstanding here.
This is not about taxi stands or anything similar, but about access for
Lyfts, Ubers, Grabs employees to streets and infrastructure that they
would not be able to utilize if they were driving for themselves
(including actual ride sharing :-)).
The use of the proposed access tagging on roads to indicate whether or not
a private hire/rideshare can drive on them I think we can all agree is
straightforward, but it gets muddy when talking about other types of
infrastructure that this might apply to.
I would like to better understand how suc
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